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sublime220 
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 Posted: February 23 2015 at 08:33 |
King Crimson - Lark's Tongue, Epitaph Caravan - s/t Magma - K.A.
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There is no dark side in the moon, really... Matter of fact, it's all dark...
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Walton Street
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Posted: February 23 2015 at 09:11 |
 Cristi wrote:
Walton Street wrote:
Cristi wrote:
Walton Street wrote:
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for some people, being overrated means bands/albums people love but they don't.
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that is the ONLY definition of overrated. |
I disagree, for example I think Kiss are overrated (they don't deserve all the attention they get), do I like them? Yes, they have a ton of good songs.
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you don't get to tell people that they like something more than they should - it's beyond arrogant. we cant read minds, we cant tell who or if someone is jumping on a bandwagon. you just have to accept that a lot of people like something more than you do. I used to feel this way - I thought the Movie Titanic was 'overrated' Part of my growth was I had to learn to get over myself and accept that people value and rate things according to how they feel and it's ok if they like the things I don't, and don't like the things I do .. their tastes are appropriate for them .. as mine are for me. it's really that simple |
The terms "overrated/underrated" are all about subjectivity.
It's not about judging someone else's tastes. I never implied that. Like I said, something overrated is when appreciating something reaches exaggeration.
It becomes a hype, talk of the town to the point of annoyance almost.
Titanic is an overrated movie  , OMG, back then it was like , if you hadn't seen it, you lived for nothing.
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I think underseen should replace underrated (usually the case of a good film flying under the radar - poor exposure, etc) but even your definition of overrated is so intangible - it's impossible to put your finger on. lets face it - if something is really good to people - they will talk about it enthusiastically and often. It doesn't bother me ... I just turn it off and figure that I simply don't align with their tastes. I pretty much hate all pop music (this bogus RnB stuff) I hate Harlequin Romance Novels, I cant stand anything on TV .. but the people who rave about those things truly do like them despite my feelings .. It's rated appropriately for them .. I don't understand any of it but I can only say I'm right for me - not them sort of like how you're thinking about my opinion on this right now :)
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Cristi
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Posted: February 23 2015 at 14:14 |
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you don't get to tell people that they like something more than they should - it's beyond arrogant. we cant read minds, we cant tell who or if someone is jumping on a bandwagon. you just have to accept that a lot of people like something more than you do. I used to feel this way - I thought the Movie Titanic was 'overrated' Part of my growth was I had to learn to get over myself and accept that people value and rate things according to how they feel and it's ok if they like the things I don't, and don't like the things I do .. their tastes are appropriate for them .. as mine are for me. it's really that simple [/QUOTE] The terms "overrated/underrated" are all about subjectivity. It's not about judging someone else's tastes. I never implied that. Like I said, something overrated is when appreciating something reaches exaggeration. It becomes a hype, talk of the town to the point of annoyance almost. Titanic is an overrated movie , OMG, back then it was like , if you hadn't seen it, you lived for nothing.
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I think underseen should replace underrated (usually the case of a good film flying under the radar - poor exposure, etc) but even your definition of overrated is so intangible - it's impossible to put your finger on. lets face it - if something is really good to people - they will talk about it enthusiastically and often. It doesn't bother me ... I just turn it off and figure that I simply don't align with their tastes. I pretty much hate all pop music (this bogus RnB stuff) I hate Harlequin Romance Novels, I cant stand anything on TV .. but the people who rave about those things truly do like them despite my feelings .. It's rated appropriately for them .. I don't understand any of it but I can only say I'm right for me - not them sort of like how you're thinking about my opinion on this right now :) [/QUOTE] I'mnot arguing against what people should do (listen/watch/like/appreciate) but when things get hyped, I have a problem. I'm gonna make a pol - Supper's Ready against any Genesis song; if Supper's Ready wins, there is a problem
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Walton Street
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Posted: February 23 2015 at 14:16 |
Cristi wrote:
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you don't get to tell people that they like something more than they should - it's beyond arrogant. we cant read minds, we cant tell who or if someone is jumping on a bandwagon. you just have to accept that a lot of people like something more than you do. I used to feel this way - I thought the Movie Titanic was 'overrated' Part of my growth was I had to learn to get over myself and accept that people value and rate things according to how they feel and it's ok if they like the things I don't, and don't like the things I do .. their tastes are appropriate for them .. as mine are for me. it's really that simple [/QUOTE] The terms "overrated/underrated" are all about subjectivity. It's not about judging someone else's tastes. I never implied that. Like I said, something overrated is when appreciating something reaches exaggeration. It becomes a hype, talk of the town to the point of annoyance almost. Titanic is an overrated movie , OMG, back then it was like , if you hadn't seen it, you lived for nothing.
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I think underseen should replace underrated (usually the case of a good film flying under the radar - poor exposure, etc) but even your definition of overrated is so intangible - it's impossible to put your finger on. lets face it - if something is really good to people - they will talk about it enthusiastically and often. It doesn't bother me ... I just turn it off and figure that I simply don't align with their tastes. I pretty much hate all pop music (this bogus RnB stuff) I hate Harlequin Romance Novels, I cant stand anything on TV .. but the people who rave about those things truly do like them despite my feelings .. It's rated appropriately for them .. I don't understand any of it but I can only say I'm right for me - not them sort of like how you're thinking about my opinion on this right now :) [/QUOTE] I'mnot argeing against what people should do (listen/watch/like/appreciate) but when things get hyped, I have a problem. I'm gonna make a pol - Supper's Ready against any Genesis song; if Supper's Ready wins, there is a problem [/QUOTE]
well now you've really blown it - Genesis is my favourite band and Supper's Ready is one of their best songs :)
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Cristi
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Posted: February 23 2015 at 14:21 |
Walton Street wrote:
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I'mnot argeing against what people should do (listen/watch/like/appreciate) but when things get hyped, I have a problem. I'm gonna make a pol - Supper's Ready against any Genesis song; if Supper's Ready wins, there is a problem [/QUOTE]
well now you've really blown it - Genesis is my favourite band and Supper's Ready is one of their best songs :) [/QUOTE] LOL I love Genesis as well, but if I were to think of an overrated song amongst progheads, it's this one, so if Supper's Ready does not win that poll, it means then that it's not overrated.
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Posted: February 23 2015 at 16:33 |
like it wouldn't yeah man.. overrated has a name here.. and it is called Genesis... and its face is Supper's Ready 
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sleeper
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Posted: February 23 2015 at 18:08 |
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Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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richardh
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Posted: February 24 2015 at 02:06 |
Genesis - The Battle Of Epping Forest ELP - Tank/Take A Pebble and Knife Edge Gentle Giant - everything on In A Glass House Yes - Awaken/Going For The One Marillion - everything on Script For A Jesters Tear Eloy - everything on Ocean King Crimson - everything they did in the 80's Anglagard (in general) Pink Floyd (most of Dark Side Of The Moon except Time and Great Gig In The Sky) Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells (about the 9th best album he made)
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: February 24 2015 at 05:46 |
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^ "The Battle ..." isn't overrated. I hear a lot of spite for it instead on this forum.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: February 24 2015 at 05:52 |
Walton Street wrote:
I think underseen should replace underrated (usually the case of a good film flying under the radar - poor exposure, etc) |
Did you mean "overlooked"? I've never heard the word "underseen".
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Walton Street
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Posted: February 24 2015 at 07:03 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
Walton Street wrote:
I think underseen should replace underrated (usually the case of a good film flying under the radar - poor exposure, etc) |
Did you mean "overlooked"? I've never heard the word "underseen". |
I make up my own damn words!
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Svetonio
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Posted: February 24 2015 at 07:35 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ "The Battle ..." isn't overrated. I hear a lot of spite for it instead on this forum. |
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sublime220
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Posted: February 24 2015 at 08:13 |
richardh wrote:
Gentle Giant - everything on In A Glass House |
This
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richardh
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Posted: February 24 2015 at 14:36 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ "The Battle ..." isn't overrated. I hear a lot of spite for it instead on this forum. |
Probably mostly from me I like nearly all Genesis music , so much beauty and brilliance and then there is this track where they do stupid voices and is 5 times as long as Benny The Bouncer. If only there was something remotely interesting about it. 
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Walton Street
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Posted: February 24 2015 at 14:44 |
richardh wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ "The Battle ..." isn't overrated. I hear a lot of spite for it instead on this forum. |
Probably mostly from me I like nearly all Genesis music , so much beauty and brilliance and then there is this track where they do stupid voices and is 5 times as long as Benny The Bouncer. If only there was something remotely interesting about it. |
I like the wordplay, and the general story telling. From the day I've had this album that track never stood out as unworthy to me and I sing along happily every time it plays
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infernalfrog
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Posted: February 24 2015 at 15:15 |
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Steven Wilson - Raider II
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Please, forgive my spelling and concordance mistakes. English noob here.
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Raff
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Posted: February 24 2015 at 16:13 |
There are no overrated songs - only songs that do nothing for me. One man's trash is another man's treasure  .
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Walton Street
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Posted: February 24 2015 at 16:23 |
Raff wrote:
There are no overrated songs - only songs that do nothing for me. One man's trash is another man's treasure.
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exactly...
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micky
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Posted: February 24 2015 at 19:30 |
Walton Street wrote:
Raff wrote:
There are no overrated songs - only songs that do nothing for me. One man's trash is another man's treasure.
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exactly... |
bah..... that kind of talk is overrated. Too of much good old fashioned common sense can wreck an internet forum and leave us nothing to do but swap spit in the shower and hold hands by the campfire and sing hymms together. Boring  so yeah.. both of you are overrated. Take that hah. We need a most overrated forumite thread. That is what we need.
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Horizons
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Posted: February 24 2015 at 19:43 |
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I'm just going to throw out Boring as a Brick. Part 1 or 2, or both really.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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