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Retrovertigo 
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 Topic: Add Buckethead?
Posted: August 05 2005 at 20:11 |
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I think that if anybody heard albums like Bucketheadland or Giant Robot
they would understand that Buckethead creates very progressive
music. Highly experimental, conceptual, funky, fusion,
prog-metal, and most of all avant-garde.
At allmusic he's listed as:
Electronic/Avant-Garde/Minimalist Music
-Experimental Rock
-Fusion
-Experimental
-Funk Metal
-Guitar Virtuoso
-Heavy Metal
-Progressive Metal
-Instrumental Rock
-Prog-Rock/Art Rock
Nice lineup eh?
I know we've said we can't add John Zorn because he's jazz, but here we
have a guitar John Zorn who plays avant-prog-rock. And those of
you who think he's just a shredder who played with Guns 'N Roses for a
while, think again.
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: August 05 2005 at 20:21 |
I've only heard bits and pieces of what he's done... but from what I've heard he is pretty proggy... maybe if I heard some more stuff. 
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Snow Dog
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Posted: August 05 2005 at 20:43 |
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Yes, I'd have to hear something!
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Tony R
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Posted: August 05 2005 at 20:52 |
NO!!!!!!!!!
Being avant-garde does not make you Prog.
Electric Tears is pretty cool though.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: August 05 2005 at 20:55 |
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Didn't buckethead play in G'n'R once?
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Retrovertigo
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Posted: August 05 2005 at 22:54 |
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Yes he did Snow Dog. And Tony R, Buckethead fits the avant-prog description here perfectly.
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el böthy
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Posted: August 05 2005 at 23:52 |
I hate that Buckethead...because I love Slash...(not in a sexual way!)...but I didnt know his solo works were as they were discrived here...guitar virtuoso? Really? did not know that...I thought we just played Slashs solos and thats about it...does he still uses that bucket and mask?...what an asshole...what is he, Slipknots little brother?
 ...what an ass! long live Slash!
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Retrovertigo
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 01:14 |
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Posts like that should be completely disregarded. Let's move on.
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floydaholic
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 19:44 |
 Retrovertigo wrote:
Posts like that should be completely disregarded. Let's move on. |
Agreed, besides Buckethead is a superior guitarist to Slash. His music is very experimental and unique. I voted yes but now that i think it doesn't have that atmosphere that prog has. It's only got the experimentation. So probably no.
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I'll see you on the Darkside of the moon...
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Snow Dog
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 20:12 |
floydaholic wrote:
Retrovertigo wrote:
Posts like that should be completely disregarded. Let's move on. |
Agreed, besides Buckethead is a superior guitarist to Slash. His music is very experimental and unique. I voted yes but now that i think it doesn't have that atmosphere that prog has. It's only got the experimentation. So probably no.
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Does Prog have to have atmosphere?
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floydaholic
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 20:27 |
Snow Dog wrote:
floydaholic wrote:
Retrovertigo wrote:
Posts like that should be completely disregarded. Let's move on. |
Agreed, besides Buckethead is a superior guitarist to Slash. His music is very experimental and unique. I voted yes but now that i think it doesn't have that atmosphere that prog has. It's only got the experimentation. So probably no.
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Does Prog have to have atmosphere?
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I'm talking about the atmosphere or sound that is inherent in prog. Not like the atmosphere pink floyd creates using effects. Sorry for the confusion.
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I'll see you on the Darkside of the moon...
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Snow Dog
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 20:33 |
floydaholic wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
floydaholic wrote:
Retrovertigo wrote:
Posts like that should be completely disregarded. Let's move on. |
Agreed, besides Buckethead is a superior guitarist to Slash. His music is very experimental and unique. I voted yes but now that i think it doesn't have that atmosphere that prog has. It's only got the experimentation. So probably no.
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Does Prog have to have atmosphere?
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I'm talking about the atmosphere or sound that is inherent in prog. Not like the atmosphere pink floyd creates using effects. Sorry for the confusion.
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No...sorry, I am confused now! I don't think I was before? So my question still stands!
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floydaholic
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 20:35 |
Snow Dog wrote:
floydaholic wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
floydaholic wrote:
Retrovertigo wrote:
Posts like that should be completely disregarded. Let's move on. |
Agreed, besides Buckethead is a superior guitarist to Slash. His music is very experimental and unique. I voted yes but now that i think it doesn't have that atmosphere that prog has. It's only got the experimentation. So probably no.
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Does Prog have to have atmosphere?
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I'm talking about the atmosphere or sound that is inherent in prog. Not like the atmosphere pink floyd creates using effects. Sorry for the confusion.
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No...sorry, I am confused now! I don't think I was before? So my question still stands!
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Screw it. I'll just say it's not necassary in prog. However i feel that it is an important factor in the prog that i like.
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I'll see you on the Darkside of the moon...
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Snow Dog
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 20:38 |
floydaholic wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
floydaholic wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
floydaholic wrote:
Retrovertigo wrote:
Posts like that should be completely disregarded. Let's move on. |
Agreed, besides Buckethead is a superior guitarist to Slash. His music is very experimental and unique. I voted yes but now that i think it doesn't have that atmosphere that prog has. It's only got the experimentation. So probably no.
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Does Prog have to have atmosphere?
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I'm talking about the atmosphere or sound that is inherent in prog. Not like the atmosphere pink floyd creates using effects. Sorry for the confusion.
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No...sorry, I am confused now! I don't think I was before? So my question still stands!
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Screw it. I'll just say it's not necassary in prog. However i feel that it is an important factor in the prog that i like.
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Well, I got an answer out of you! 
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The Hemulen
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 20:41 |
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Definitely a worthwhile addition.
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floydaholic
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 20:41 |
Snow Dog wrote:
floydaholic wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
floydaholic wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
floydaholic wrote:
Retrovertigo wrote:
Posts like that should be completely disregarded. Let's move on. |
Agreed, besides Buckethead is a superior guitarist to Slash. His music is very experimental and unique. I voted yes but now that i think it doesn't have that atmosphere that prog has. It's only got the experimentation. So probably no.
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Does Prog have to have atmosphere?
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I'm talking about the atmosphere or sound that is inherent in prog. Not like the atmosphere pink floyd creates using effects. Sorry for the confusion.
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No...sorry, I am confused now! I don't think I was before? So my question still stands!
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Screw it. I'll just say it's not necassary in prog. However i feel that it is an important factor in the prog that i like.
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Well, I got an answer out of you!
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You tricky bastard
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I'll see you on the Darkside of the moon...
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Bryan
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Posted: August 07 2005 at 00:50 |
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I heard one of his albums way back when, and while there's no question he's an incredible and very experimental guitarist, it would never have occured to me to describe him as prog.
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Trotsky
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Posted: August 08 2005 at 02:18 |
Useful_Idiot wrote:
I heard one of his albums way back when, and while there's no question he's an incredible and very experimental guitarist, it would never have occured to me to describe him as prog. |
Pretty much the same for me, except I heard two albums ...
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Bones Rasta
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Posted: November 06 2005 at 22:11 |
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Bones Rasta
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Posted: November 06 2005 at 22:14 |
Saw him live on the third. still collecting bits of my brain. show may have topped rush. i love buckethead cant say enough so i wont say much. check him out for yourself. dont dismiss him off the first thing you hear. his music is very very diverse. he is also good friends with bootsy collins!
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