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Stool Man 
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Posted: May 26 2013 at 08:14 |
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Ronnie Wood joined The Rolling Stones almost forty years ago, for many years (maybe still is, I dunno) he was still referred to (jokingly) as 'the new guitarist'.
When does a replacement band member stop being considered new? After they've been on more albums than whoever they replaced, or after a certain number of tours, or what?
John "Rhino" Edwards has been the bass player in Status Quo for 28 years, and they just got another new drummer (their fifth)
Since Deep Purple's 1984 reunion, Steve Morse has been the guitarist on more albums than Ritchie Blackmore.
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Posted: May 26 2013 at 08:22 |
Personally, I'd say you're no longer "new" if you've been on two albums.
I know what you mean, though. Sonic Youth went through about 4 different drummers in their first 5 years, and Steve Shelley was their drummer for the next 20 years, until they called it quits, yet he sometimes still felt like the new guy in the band.
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Posted: May 26 2013 at 09:57 |
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Geddy and Alex say Neil's still the new guy
But, yeah, two albums seems good
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Posted: May 26 2013 at 10:18 |
I suppose we Syd fans could stop thinking of Dave as the imposter. He passed the audition. 
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Posted: May 26 2013 at 14:27 |
At the end of the first day......
<------ this guy will always be the "new guy"
Edited by Catcher10 - May 26 2013 at 14:27
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Posted: May 26 2013 at 15:56 |
 HolyMoly wrote:
Personally, I'd say you're no longer "new" if you've been on two albums. I know what you mean, though. Sonic Youth went through about 4 different drummers in their first 5 years, and Steve Shelley was their drummer for the next 20 years, until they called it quits, yet he sometimes still felt like the new guy in the band. |
I agree with Steve on this. For example, Helmut Koellen, after being on two Triumvirat albums, was no longer "new" when he decided to split from the band at the end of 1975. It only took two albums to make him a fully integral and very recognizable part of that band.
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Posted: May 26 2013 at 16:54 |
Stool Man wrote:
Since Deep Purple's 1984 reunion, Steve Morse has been the guitarist on more albums than Ritchie Blackmore.
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Are you sure?  If I'm not wrong, Steve Morse had recorded 5 studio albums - but Blackmore had played on 14 studio albums. Anyway, back to the topic and the Newsted case: it looks like he had been the "new" bassist of Metallica for more than 15 years... In this example (or Ron Wood with the Rolling Stones), the band had to come through a trauma. Such a situation must explain why some bands talk about their "new" members even if the said noob had played on 15 records, 17 tours and wrote half of the repertoire.
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Posted: May 28 2013 at 02:15 |
Apparently, according to these accounts, when ever another person joins the group. 
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Posted: May 28 2013 at 06:38 |
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If Wikipedia is correct, then Blackmore did about 10 years (1969 to 1973, 1984 to 1989, and 1992 to 1993) and Morse has done 19.
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Posted: May 28 2013 at 10:48 |
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All definitions of new are relative. Members could be new in relation to the span of the band's entire catalogue or new in relation to the other band members. There's not much of an objective criteria by which to call a member "new" or "old."
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Posted: May 28 2013 at 11:38 |
I said since 1984, you observant people 
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Posted: May 28 2013 at 11:53 |
Stool Man wrote:
I said since 1984, you observant people |
...... That's called "cheating"!  I'm not a big fan of Ritchie "Big Head" Blackmore, but I don't see you separate the first years of Deep Purple (1968-1976) and the "Second Coming" (after 1984). It would be like saying that Pat Mastelotto had played on more King Crimson records than Bill Bruford... since 1993.  AND THEN SKIP ALL THE 70's AND THE 80's! CHEEAAAATIIIING!!!!
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When do new band members stop being 'new'?
