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    Posted: November 15 2010 at 21:17
Often, I hear or read about a band and listen to them a little but don't think much of them.  Then a few weeks or months later, I'll come back to them and find I really like them and can't get enough.  Does anybody else go through a similar process? Part of it might be getting used to their sound or style which can take time to appreciate. I'm curious though if anyone else does this.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2010 at 21:20
I'm exactly like that. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2010 at 21:22
Sure, I think that's pretty common.  I remember a member who once claimed to know on the very first album play if he liked or hated a piece of music.  I always thought that was crazy....I think it more often takes at least a few plays to give the artist a chance to catch your ear.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2010 at 21:24
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Sure, I think that's pretty common.  I remember a member who once claimed to know on the very first album play if he liked or hated a piece of music.  I always thought that was crazy....I think it more often takes at least a few plays to give the artist a chance to catch your ear.  

There have only been a few instances in which on hearing something I immediately go "ZOMG MUST HAS"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2010 at 21:26
Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Sure, I think that's pretty common.  I remember a member who once claimed to know on the very first album play if he liked or hated a piece of music.  I always thought that was crazy....I think it more often takes at least a few plays to give the artist a chance to catch your ear.  

There have only been a few instances in which on hearing something I immediately go "ZOMG MUST HAS"


That's not so uncommon for me, but that is definitely not the rule.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2010 at 21:34
Oh I can certainly have a reaction on the first play.  I'm just saying I won't solidify my opinion after one play, esp if I don't like it.  We had a guy once say that in the forums.  He said he knew on first play if he hated it, and he wouldn't try it again.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2010 at 21:39
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Oh I can certainly have a reaction on the first play.  I'm just saying I won't solidify my opinion after one play, esp if I don't like it.  We had a guy once say that in the forums.  He said he knew on first play if he hated it, and he wouldn't try it again.


There are some albums I like and have a formed opinion since the first time, but those are so few in my collection. . . . I can think of 3, maybe 4 out of nearly 500 CDs, so definitely the exception.

And that guy. . . . . Yes, I remember him. He was a collab, whasn't he?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2010 at 21:44
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Oh I can certainly have a reaction on the first play.  I'm just saying I won't solidify my opinion after one play, esp if I don't like it.  We had a guy once say that in the forums.  He said he knew on first play if he hated it, and he wouldn't try it again.

That doesn't seem logical to me. LOL
On the other hand, I have not liked something one time, liked it the next, and then not liked it again the third. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2010 at 21:45
I honestly can't remember who it was....that exchange was right after I joined the site.   Though I'm sure there are others who have said similar stuff.  Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2010 at 21:46
Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Oh I can certainly have a reaction on the first play.  I'm just saying I won't solidify my opinion after one play, esp if I don't like it.  We had a guy once say that in the forums.  He said he knew on first play if he hated it, and he wouldn't try it again.

That doesn't seem logical to me. LOL
On the other hand, I have not liked something one time, liked it the next, and then not liked it again the third. LOL


Yeah, I've flipped flopped flipped once or twice too Matt, I know what you mean!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2010 at 21:53
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Oh I can certainly have a reaction on the first play.  I'm just saying I won't solidify my opinion after one play, esp if I don't like it.  We had a guy once say that in the forums.  He said he knew on first play if he hated it, and he wouldn't try it again.

That doesn't seem logical to me. LOL
On the other hand, I have not liked something one time, liked it the next, and then not liked it again the third. LOL


Yeah, I've flipped flopped flipped once or twice too Matt, I know what you mean!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2010 at 22:21
I definitley need more than one listen to make a judgement about a band / record. A few months ago I had the chance to hearing some Porcupine Tree and didn't really find it so interesting, right now I'm giving a listen to Fear of a Blank Planet (on Youtube), and I'm thinking it may just as well grow on me. I guess I'll try it a few times more, and if I grow to like it I may even buy it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2010 at 10:54
Listening and re-listening is an absolutely imperative method for me.  I rarely like an album on the first or even the third listen; I need to acclimate my ears and my expectations.  I know that I'm starting to groove on something when I start anticipating certain moments in each song.  I remember, many MANY years ago, trying to 'get into' Pink Floyd...I had a copy of Dark Side that sat in a pile of meh CD's for years before I suddenly discovered that it was one of the greatest albums in the known universe.  The same thing goes for Gentle Giant and Van Der Graaf Generator...it took me ages and ages and plenty of re-listenings to come to an appreciation of these bands.  I'm still working on Genesis and Yes.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2010 at 11:09
Not once but usually after three or four times of listening to the entire album, I have a good idea of how much I like it.  But that's USUALLY. Some albums I really love like Crime of the Century, Larks Tongue in Aspic, Acquiring The Taste Wink, The Last Epic and several others took more sessions or maybe I sort of rediscovered them after a long gap. I stinted on Dave Brubeck's Time Out for a long time and then one fine day, I loved the hell out of it.  Unless an album is really, evidently terrible, I will never 'write it off'.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2010 at 11:37
I think a lot of it depends on who it is and what album it is. Some albums are instantaneously accessible, and others take a hell of a lot of listening to to appreciate.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2010 at 15:30
On first listen I can, usually, get a good idea of whether I'm going to like the album or not, I seem to be very good at forming first impressions, though I wont develop a full idea of the music until after many repeated listens (well, if its good enough for me to want to repeatedly listen to it). Generally, my first impressions only change by small amounts, say the equivelant of a single star rating, but I could come back and love an album I previously didnt like, or put down and never listen again to a former favourite as my tastes change over the years. (Used to love DT and Queensryche but hardly ever listen to them now, whilst here was a time I used to hate harsh vocals and now I love them.)
 
The collab you're all thinking of is Cert1fied, who claimed to write reviews after a single listen (and was well and truy flamed for his Watershed review), personally I couldnt see any merits in such listening habits as you dont have any view on what the albums affect on you is after having it for 6 months or more, but if it worked for him.... 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2010 at 16:12
Originally posted by Eärendil Eärendil wrote:

Often, I hear or read about a band and listen to them a little but don't think much of them.  Then a few weeks or months later, I'll come back to them and find I really like them and can't get enough.  Does anybody else go through a similar process? Part of it might be getting used to their sound or style which can take time to appreciate. I'm curious though if anyone else does this.
 
That's when you know that your tastes are subjective, and sometimes you have to de-tune your mind so you can learn to listen to something different or new.
 
In general, once you get past that ability, it won't bother you and you rarely will have that kind of reaction and in general, the first response is actually the better one of the two ... but you have to get past the ear sensitive material thing ... which is a problem, when people go around (even here) saying they listen to this and that ... meaning that their ability to enjoy something else totally different, or new, is quite often ... limited ... and you will get into situations like that.
 
My example always was Gentle Giant ... they are not a favorite band of mine, but you gotta sit back and say ... that's incredible musicianship and dedication to creating something totally original and different from anyone else ... you can't even find some of that stuff in classical music anywhere!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2010 at 17:38
This can be precisely me, although the scale definitely varies. For some bands, I see the appeal immediately and can listen to them straight away and love it, but for others, it can be weeks or months before I try them again and their music "clicks" with me. I often catch myself thinking that the growers are more rewarding than the showers, but this isn't always true, as I did enjoy some of the best stuff I've ever heard from the first listen- Images and Words was like an epiphany to my virgin ears. 

Here's an example of a grower: Mastodon. When I heard of all the buzz about Crack the Skye, I tracked it down on Spotify and tried listening to it. It just... didn't work. What's going on? I thought. These melodies are bizarre, and not very nice. The vocals... what? The guitarwork's odd, too. What is this? So, I buried Mastodon in my mind for a while. 

Then, later, whilst doing a strenuous art piece, I decided to try the other album of theirs that was on Spotify, Blood Mountain. As soon as The Wolf Is Loose began, I was hooked. My inner metalhead screamed that this was the future. If I recall correctly, I listened to the whole damn album, which is rare for me on a first attempt. Then, with fresh eyes, I started on Crack the Skye, and it slowly began to dawn on me. Those strange, minor melodies were perfect for the music, even delicious to the ear. The bleak, almost off-tune vocals weren't bad, they were beautiful. And the guitarwork? To put it simply, masterful. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2010 at 09:06
I'm all over the place on this one.  Sometimes I like an album right away, and continue to like it more and more with every listen.  Sometimes I like an album on first listen, and like it less and less with repeated listens until the point where I realize it just isn't what I thought it was that first time.  Sometimes, I dislike an album on first listen, and repeated listens do nothing but make me hate it even more.  More often though, I get nothing from an album the first couple times through, but with repeated listens I like it more and more.  The best example for me is the first 3 or 4 times I heard The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway, I didn't like it (I had only heard Genesis Live at that point, which I loved from the first listen).  I put it away for 6 months or so, and then decided to give it another try (since I had heard all the Gabriel era studio stuff at that point, and loved it all) and found that it clicked for me suddenly.

It's totally subjective really.  I think for me the Flower Kings are a good example as most of their album after Space Revolver did not click with me right away, though I didn't dislike them on first listen.  Over many plays, I came to love nearly all of them.

Still, I think with prog it is pretty common to need multiple listens to really "get inside" the music and appreciate what is going on.  This can then lead to loving the album, or not, depending on the listeners taste.  But I give just about every album at least 3 or 4 plays before giving up if it still doesn't click for me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2010 at 18:50
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So strange, but for me I started out in a house that already had thousands of LP's with classical music, operas and other things, and in the end, I already had heard "different musics" that most people never do. By the time rock music and radio hit my ears (1963/1964/1965 in Brazil), I already was familiar with a lot of music, and agreed then, and even now, that a lot of it is just low level "popular music" ... and too much of the internet and music business is about hits and commerciality, a lot of which has as much musicality in it as .... your bathroom?
 
I'm pretty much convinced that we're kinda doomed to never find new music because we're too stuck up on our favorites and our ability to be able to acknowledge, or make an effort to listen to something new ... goes out the window with the wind and the farts!  Walter style -- I have to lock him up with Djam Karet's first 4 albums until he changes his numbers for at least 10 more years!
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