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    Posted: March 10 2010 at 07:33
Does anyone else use these brilliant learning tools?
 
And is it just me, or is Andy James, one of their latest tutors, both the poorest speaker and the most amazing guitar player that ever lived?
 
I currently own 9 titles from this Library - and am definitely going to expand;
 
1) 50 Killer Metal Licks - every one used time after time by every classic guitarist. There's even a little shredding in there - what more could any metalhead ask?
2) Joe Satriani - OK, I've only just mastered the intro to "Satch Boogie", but there's still time...
3) Jimi Hendrix Vol 2 - I've always wanted to be able to play "All Along The Watchtower", and now I can.
4) Intermediate Guitar aerobics - might sell this one as I hardly ever use it.
5) Ozzy Osbourne - but it's the Rhoades solos I've been learning...
6) Michael Schenker - the original and best tech guitarist. A bit dated now, but his mixing and mashing of the Minor pentatonic with the diatonic scales is an eye-opener, and his tasteful melodies are soooooo satisfying.
7) Radiohead - it was a present, OK... but I must admit, learning Paranoid Android was fun. The rest were obvious, but still added a laid back dimension to my playing styles that wasn't there before.
8) Brian May solos - hey, now I can play Bo Rap! Killer Queen and Crazy Little Thing Called Love are huge amounts of fun too - but the main challenge has been getting the May tone out of my JCM 900. I'm not far off...
9) Kirk Hammett Quick Licks - played properly by Andy James. Much fun!
 
 
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What did you get out of them?
 
Anyone selling their Ritchie Blackmore DVD?
 
 
Please note that there are other manufacturers of guitar tuition products... Big smile


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I have the 2 Beatles ones, which are just about within my very limited abilities. I'd settle for half of the guys hand span (from the vid) let alone a small % of his chops .

"Why say it cannot be done.....they'd be better doing pop songs?"
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^^ have you tried GuitarPort Online? Some great tracks available there ... you can't download them permanently, but I've always enjoyed them, and they also have some great lessons.
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I would say that the books that taught me the most guitar were the full tab books to Ozzy Osbourne's TRIBUTE (Rhoads), Satriani's SURFING WITH THE ALIEN, and a "Best of" by SRV.

I have not used lick books, but staring at those pages with the CDs running...hours of my teenage life.
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I spent a large proportion of my life learning "proper" music scores, and have never wished to bother with guitar tab - the advantage that Lick Library has for someone as lazy as me is that it's not a book, it's like the Youtube I posted above - they break it right down and play everything at a speed that even I can manage, telling you each finger, each fret, and the theory behind what you're learning.
 
I'm quite addicted to them...
 
The 50 Killer Metal Licks one really is my favourite of all of them - Danny Gill is easily the best tutor, and he was taught by Joe Satriani.
 
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If you don't know where those books have been, I wouldn't recommend that. Tongue
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I'm glad I'm not the only person who took the title literally, except I thought it was a library of different tastes or something, and you lick them. Stern Smile
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Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

I'm glad I'm not the only person who took the title literally, except I thought it was a library of different tastes or something, and you lick them. Stern Smile
 
That's probably closer to the truth than you realised...Wink
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Watched snippets of the videos people have uploaded to youtube.
Learning Kirk Hammett licks is more like regressing your abilities than actually learning anywayTongue

But yeah, Andy James is a KILLER guitarist and I'll never be that good, no matter how much I practiceCry



I used to watch this about 5 times a day
It just scares me someone can be so expressive on an electric guitar. His vibrato is just insanely good and his phrasing is just scary good.
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the really frustrating thing is I know almost everything he's doing - every sweep, double and triple-time hammer, pinched harmonic and trem move - I just can't do it, at least not like that

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^Well I'm only 21. Dunno how old Andy James was in that video, but hopefully by the time I reach the age he was in that video, I have those kinda chopsTongue
Too late for you now David, you old bugger haha
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true, though I don't want to sound like Satch anyway, but it would be nice to be able to put everything together like that
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Originally posted by Petrovsk Mizinski Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:

Learning Kirk Hammett licks is more like regressing your abilities than actually learning anywayTongue
 
I know that was in jest - but it has to be said that the Kirk Hammett licks DVD is kinda like the missing link between the "Killer Metal Licks", which are basic minor pentatonic to intermediate diatonic and harmonic minor, shredding, string skipping, harmonics, tapping, whammy bar routines etc. and the "full-blown" stuff on the other Andy James DVDs.
 
The Hammett stuff basically combines all the basics and wraps them up in a nice intermediate level package - much of the underlying techniqes are the same but the differences have helped me improve my speed, accuracy and stretch.
 
If you put him in a historical context, Hammett was pretty near the top of the technical guitarist tree in the mid 1980s - there weren't that many others around, so it was quite easy... compare him to Venom's lead guitarist, or "Fast" Eddie Clarke, Jake E Lee or hundreds of others.
 
Sure he was no Randy Rhoades or Yngwie Malmsteen - but we were hardly spoilt for choice as we are now.
 
I'm willing to bet I'm not far off David in terms of age... Tongue
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I'm willing to bet I'm not far off David in terms of age... Tongue


yes probably

it's a fair point about Hammett during his time, though there were superior players as Viv Campbell, Kirk was unafraid to just play
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Originally posted by The-Bullet The-Bullet wrote:

I have the 2 Beatles ones, which are just about within my very limited abilities. I'd settle for half of the guys hand span (from the vid) let alone a small % of his chops .
 
I'm quite tempted by these - who is the tutor, and how much is covered - entire songs including solos? George's AND John's parts?
 
Trouble is, I also want the Dire Straits one and the Peter Green one - never underestimate those guys!
 
Guitar playing is sooo addictive.
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^ indeed.

I'll check out Lick Library again ... it's been almost two years since I last visited their website, it seems like a lot has changed. But maybe some of you Lick Library users will also check out Guitar Port Online ... have a look at the current track list:

http://guitarport.com/tracks/

And some favorites of mine:

http://guitarport.com/tracks/show/49/
http://guitarport.com/tracks/show/3270/
http://guitarport.com/tracks/show/591/

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Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:


I'm quite tempted by these - who is the tutor, and how much is covered - entire songs including solos? George's AND John's parts?

 

Trouble is, I also want the Dire Straits one and the Peter Green one - never underestimate those guys!

 

Guitar playing is sooo addictive.

The Tutor is Michael Casswell. On some songs it's the George part, and others he shows the John part. On some he does show both parts, but only as an aside, and yes, solos are shown. They are not arranged for solo guitar (although there is an acoustic LL Beatles dvd that may be arranged for solo guitar). I only started playing a year ago(in my 40's) and these lessons are not particularly challenging ( and I am only a messing about at home and annoying the wife level    ) so for guys like yourself maybe, these could be superfluous to anything you could transcribe or get from the web. For learner /intermediate types these Beatles dvd's are a lot of fun, especially the songs Something and Here Comes the Sun.

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Originally posted by The-Bullet The-Bullet wrote:


The Tutor is Michael Casswell. On some songs it's the George part, and others he shows the John part. On some he does show both parts, but only as an aside, and yes, solos are shown. They are not arranged for solo guitar (although there is an acoustic LL Beatles dvd that may be arranged for solo guitar). I only started playing a year ago(in my 40's) and these lessons are not particularly challenging ( and I am only a messing about at home and annoying the wife level    ) so for guys like yourself maybe, these could be superfluous to anything you could transcribe or get from the web. For learner /intermediate types these Beatles dvd's are a lot of fun, especially the songs Something and Here Comes the Sun.
 
I quite like Michael Casswell - he presents the Brian May DVD I have, and he plays a Brian May signature guitar for all songs except "Crazy Little Thing Called Love" (which he plays on a sparkly Tele), and uses a sixpence piece, like May does.
 
I'm interested in the way they teach the "simpler" stuff - it's really hard to teach feel, and anyone can play the NOTES. Casswell is good because he really emphasises feel, as does Danny Gill on the Hendrix DVDs. Learning "CLTCL" was a bit of an eye-opener for me - trying to get an approximation of the May sound from an ESP kitted out with EMGs through a Marshall JCM 900 is interesting to say the least.
 
I like the way the LL DVDs show both the fretting hand and the picking hand - and Andy James is priceless in this regard, as he shows various pick techniques that make super-speedy playing possible. He also shows various vibrato and legato techniques, and nifty ways to stop stray strings from sounding when you're sweep-picking.
 
It makes going back to Queen or Rhoades feel positively laid back - but it's great to just rip out the solo from Bo Rap during those quiet moments at rehearsal or in a guitar shop - everyone stops and looks. Could be my awful rendition, of course... Big smile
 
I'm not up to Satch level just yet - mastering the intro to Satch Boogie feels like an achievement!
 
Now back to "Blackbird" - I've just about cracked the intro to that too...
 
 
Just checked out the Guitar Port stuff - not my sort of thing really - looks an impressive selection of tabs, but I really, really do not want to learn tab.
 
I've only ever learned guitar through watching, and that's how I like it.
 
Now piano and singing are a completely different matter - I'll sight read almost anything, and I'll happily teach a large choir a song I've never seen or heard before, just by looking at the score - I quite frequently do.
 
I haven't got around to full orchestras yet, but small instrumental groups have never posed a problem either (most of them learn their parts before rehearsals, unlike lazy singers).


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