The biggest self-destruction bands

Cristi wrote: BaldJean wrote: Cristi wrote: b_olariu wrote: Aeternus wrote: Objectively or subjectively, I think Marillion did it the most.   I agree, last 4 albums,  at least, are  total mediocre albums.     I'm surely sad to see such a statement; "Mediocre" is not a word i would use to describe marillion's music; I may understand some listeners' disappointment with Radiation or with Marillion.Com but not with Anoraknophobia, Marbles and not even Somewhere Else. I know it's a matter of  taste, but the word "mediocre" really was too strong of a word, a kind of exaggeration.       I would've voted for Emerson, Lake & Palmer if they were on the list; ELP went downhill since Works I (although there are some good songs there) but after that their inspiration "went dry".     Then Genesis come to mind. well, I am not a big fan of Marillion. I think their first two albums are ok, especially "Fugazi"; though I am not too big a fan of symphonic I might consider to give "Fugazi" 4 stars. but I would even go so far as to call "Misplaced Childhood" mediocre already, although this still is an album with Fish. Marillion in the Hogarth era are a real disgrace, in my honest opinion; calling them "mediocre" could even be considered to be a compliment for them. in my opinion Hogarth-era Marillion are AOR and nothing more       you surely do not know what AOR is then. I am curious what's wrong with the Hogarth era Marillion since it's such a "real disgrace".         has my praising of Marillion bothered you? To me they are praiseworthy, that's why I reacted this way to the word "mediocre"  -that's all.

I miss any kind of originality on the newer albums of Marillion. and in my opinion Hogarth is very boring as a vocalist. your praising of Marillion does not bother me at all though; to each their own. if you like them, fine. I consider them to be mediocre. their compositions lack originality; everything is quite predictable, nothing really comes as a surprise, nothing is really daring. that's what I call "mediocre". their musicianship is fine, that's not what I criticize. but Asia had great musicians too and weren't anything but mediocre either

As far as drastic career shifts go, Marillion did the best.

Yeah, out of all of those, Genesis blowed up real good.  (Anyone remember Farm Film Celebrity Blow Up on Second City?)

I agree on Genesis with Yes as a close second.

By the way, interesting poll idea.

b_olariu wrote: Aeternus wrote: Objectively or subjectively, I think Marillion did it the most.   I agree, last 4 albums,  at least, are  total mediocre albums.

Edited by Cristi - January 28 2008 at 12:41

Genesis went KA-BOOM!

b_olariu wrote: Aeternus wrote: Objectively or subjectively, I think Marillion did it the most.   I agree, last 4 albums,  at least, are  total mediocre albums.

Marbles wasn't bad but far from what I`m looking for when it comes to Marillion I must admit.  I loved this band once ... I barely like their new stuff much at all. but I'd still prefer a modern Marillion CD to a phil collins Genesis CD when I think about it.


Edited by Yorkie X - January 27 2008 at 04:00

One that's not on the list--Jethro Tull.  What I've heard of their 80s-early 90s work is absolutely cringe-inducing, both the "Electro" Tull and "Metal" Tull phases.

Yes was actually doing alright through 90125--they kind of dipped down in quality for me in the late 1970s, but came back to form (albeit a somewhat different, then very different one) with Drama and 90125.  I haven't heard enough of Big Generator to really tell whether or not it's alright, but in general, I don't mind Rabin.  ABWH on the other hand is just awful from what I've heard.  I don't particularly care for what I've heard of their later 90s stuff (Keystudio, The Ladder).  Wakeman's keyboard choices from 1977-1978 on make me sick.  And Khoroshev is a cheese-Wakeman knock-off as far as I'm concerned.  They should have kept Tony Kaye when he came back in the 80s.

Later Rush tends to be alright still, from what I've heard.  They were one of the better-off groups in the 1980s, and while they did become a bit less "complicated", they still managed to come out alright.

Marillon I don't particularly care for in the first place.

Pink Floyd got a bit poppy on "Momentary", but it's tolerable.

Genesis is a particularly interesting case, though.  I enjoy Duke, and surprisingly enough, I absolutely love Abacab (even "Who Dunnit?", which actually has a pretty complicated harmonic scheme under it), and the self-titled "shapes" album is alright.  Invisible Touch, however, is just plain awful, and We Can't Dance is mostly bland adult-contemporary swill (though I do actually enjoy "I Can't Dance" for whatever weird reason). 

It's a close one between Genesis and Yes for me. 

Not Pink Floyd for sure. I think I go for Yes.

Genesis by far.