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jammun 
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Joined: July 14 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3449 |
 Topic: No XTC?Posted: July 25 2007 at 21:03 |
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Hi All -- I'm new to this site -- haven't even posted a review yet but they will be coming.
I'm wondering why there are no XTC reviews on the site? I realize they started out as more of a pop band -- carrying on in the tradition of the Beatles -- but more of their later stuff has a definite prog bent to it.
They ain't exactly proto-prog but more post-prog.
Jim
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1800iareyay
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Posted: July 25 2007 at 21:13 |
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Post-prog? good lord man, you've only got one post under your belt and already you've ignited a fire
 . I can see that bitter fight now, considering how proto prog and related are regularly put up for execution.
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Dean
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Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: July 25 2007 at 21:19 |
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As much as I adore XTC (and their Neo-psyche incarnation The Dukes of Stratosphear) - I think they are one of those bands who should be highly recommneded to any lovers of progressive music (along with many of the lesser-known 80's bands), but should remain outside the archive looking in.
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jammun
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Joined: July 14 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3449 |
Posted: July 25 2007 at 21:27 |
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Fair enough. It just seemed that if there is room for Jefferson Airplane, etc., there might be room for XTC.
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Easy Livin
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
Posted: July 26 2007 at 03:32 |
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Our old fiend (sorry friend
) Maani was very keen for XTC to be added. If you look back far enough, you should find him promoting them!
Apart from Maani, there's never been much of a push for them to be included. It will be interesting to see if that has changed.
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Sean Trane
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Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20554 |
Posted: July 26 2007 at 04:48 |
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Out of curiosity, I checked a few months back Drums And Wires, Black Sea and English Settlement (the three always mentioned) but I still found nothing more prog than when I had heard them back in the 80's. Good drummer, but that's about it.
They have no prog ethics as far as I can hear.
Just a new-wave pop group
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Angelo
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Posted: July 26 2007 at 06:47 |
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Now that's a mind opener. I always wondered why I haven't made it to collaborator yet, but now I know: I first have to learn how ethics sound...  |
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salmacis
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Posted: July 26 2007 at 06:59 |
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They don't belong, imho. They are one of those bands (like The Police, Talking Heads, or even The Stranglers, imho of course) that got carried along with punk's slipstream but were more musically sophisticated/able than the majority of punk bands and into the 80s their music didn't resemble anything close to punk. But they aren't prog or related either, imho.
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chopper
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Posted: July 26 2007 at 08:21 |
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XTC? Probably the finest English pop band after The Beatles. I love them, but I can't think of anything remotely prog about them. I've never seen them described as a prog band, so a definite no.
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thellama73
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Posted: July 26 2007 at 08:28 |
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I too have to vote know. XTC are great, but they are wrong for the archives.
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Time Signature
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Joined: July 20 2007 Status: Offline Points: 362 |
Posted: July 26 2007 at 08:37 |
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What exactly do you mean by post-prog? Are there any specific musical or stylistic features to this genre. I merely ask out of curiosity.
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Dean
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Posted: July 26 2007 at 11:27 |
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Thankfully there isn't a genre called "Would have been Prog if Punk hadn't exisited"
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clarke2001
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Posted: July 26 2007 at 12:03 |
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XTC gets my vote for "the world's best band outside the Prog Archives"! And let it stay that way. |
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Easy Livin
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Posted: July 26 2007 at 15:59 |
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What do you fancy doing Angelo?
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Angelo
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Posted: July 26 2007 at 16:11 |
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Anything but sweep the Grey Room, Bob. But I was actually just clowning around, teasing Hughues.  |
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jammun
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Joined: July 14 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3449 |
Posted: July 26 2007 at 19:13 |
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Um, post-prog was a bad choice of words. To these ears, XTC have carried on in the Beatles pop tradition. But they came after the 'classic' prog era, so they can't be proto.
The albums I have in mind when I think of them as prog-related are particularly Skylarking and perhaps Apple Venus.
Jim
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mystic fred
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Posted: August 02 2007 at 03:40 |
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many have carried on the Beatles tradition but very few managed to capture it - least of all XTC - 80's pop band consigned to the bargain bin of pop history!
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Sean Trane
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Posted: August 02 2007 at 05:20 |
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ethics or aesthetics..... if you wish!
no long songs, no tricky time sigs, no tempo changes, no challenging lyrics, no superb artwork (maybe the one with the ship) .....
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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clarke2001
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Posted: August 02 2007 at 11:28 |
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 Hey! This is the best Hypgnosis album cover EVER!  |
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Dean
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Posted: August 02 2007 at 12:29 |
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^ when Storm gets a bee in his bonnet he doesn't let it go does he
...the bonus disc, Go+, is probably the best thing XTC did.
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