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tardis
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Topic: head shops Posted: July 04 2007 at 21:23 |
The Miracle wrote:
As Oliver once put it, it takes you to a higher state of consciousness stupidity

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Posted: July 04 2007 at 20:09 |
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cuncuna
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Posted: July 04 2007 at 19:35 |
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The Miracle
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Posted: July 04 2007 at 16:16 |
As Oliver once put it, it takes you to a higher state of consciousness  Too bad weed prices here are even worse than gas prices...
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emdiar
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Posted: July 04 2007 at 15:53 |
There's lot of waffle being spouted on this thread. Giving up cigs is MUCH harder than giving up weed, because nicotine addiction is a chemical dependence. That means, even if you don't want to continue smoking tobacco your body will crave it. THC is a different kettle of fish. If you don't want to get high you won't miss it. I've knocked both on the head, and I still crave the fags after 6 months abstinence. The only "withdrawal symptom" I've experienced since dropping the skunk is that my dreams have become much more vivid.
"Weed's not addictive! I should know. I smoke it every day!" - Moz (Johnny Vegas), I Deal. (brilliant British sitcom.)
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Posted: July 04 2007 at 13:30 |
The T wrote:
cuncuna wrote:
The T wrote:
cuncuna wrote:
Nevertheless, drugs are a big L in your forehead if you are beyond 20. |
Why? (I mean, ocassionally) | Besides being an unnecesary habit, the margin can be as wide as narrow. I guess you can control yourself; there's people who can't. There's young people who take other people as exmaple. "If they do it, it's ok". Unless you could have your "ocassional joint" legally checked (1-2 by month, something like that), there is simply not a single way to assure that the use of even that apparently harmless drug won't lead to disaster. |
Unnecesary habit= true; but what starts as a unnecesary habit can turn itno a dependence or an addiction
Guess you can control yourself= true with the green stuff; wrong with something else which brought chaos for a while, years ago
young people take older as example=people who take drugs in front og younger people: IDIOTS. But if everyone is a consenting adult, I don't want somebody else telling me what I can do with my body (and remember: I've seen the dark side)
lead to disaster= yes, even marihuana can lead to disaster, to psychological dependence (it doesn't generate physical addiction as other drugs do).
But this still doesn't prove that drugs are a big L if you are beyond 20. Actually, beyond 20 should be the LEGAL AGE to decide whether you do it or not.... All of these arguments just prove that drugs are dangerous, an unnecesary risk, whatever... not the big L.
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I've never witnessed a "healthy" case of user. The big "L", actually stands for unclean and unclear individuals that, as I told before, see no danger in smoking before driving his girlfriend somewhere, etc. Off course, adiction is something from the psique first, and in the body later, so you can be adicted to food, games, etc. Anyway, after a certain age and a certain amount of use, something is wrong. I don't need to explain this further, the people who had a strong habit (as myself, I use to be a tobacco smoker) knows pretty well what's like to be unable to stay one day without smoking, drinking, etc. If you reach a point of having no control over an impulse, then my friend you are a loser, a person with no inner strenght. That's the way I used to talk to myself, and also the attitude that is helping me to never touch a cigarette again.
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tardis
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Posted: July 03 2007 at 00:47 |
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You can sell that kind of thing in denver (I live here) you just have to know where to ask.
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Congratulations! I know how hard a habit it is to kick, I used to be dependent on weed as well, and I've seen many people fail to get off it, even when they try...the next habit for me to kick was drinking, that was even harder (because it's much more socially accessible to walk into a bar). Anyway, I ramble.
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Posted: July 03 2007 at 00:26 |
The Wizard wrote:
cuncuna wrote:
I... ¿what does he mean by "Head Shop"?... |
A place that sells products related to the hly plant cannabis. My girlfriends dad used to own one. Now he's a republican! |
Uhh, dont republicans belive in free trade? That would include free trade of Cannibus, after all its only us commies that want to put restrictions on your glorious capitalism. 
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Posted: July 03 2007 at 00:22 |
You can sell that kind of thing in denver (I live here) you just have to know where to ask.
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who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob
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The T
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Posted: July 02 2007 at 23:57 |
cuncuna wrote:
The T wrote:
cuncuna wrote:
Nevertheless, drugs are a big L in your forehead if you are beyond 20. |
Why? (I mean, ocassionally) |
Besides being an unnecesary habit, the margin can be as wide as narrow. I guess you can control yourself; there's people who can't. There's young people who take other people as exmaple. "If they do it, it's ok". Unless you could have your "ocassional joint" legally checked (1-2 by month, something like that), there is simply not a single way to assure that the use of even that apparently harmless drug won't lead to disaster. |
Unnecesary habit= true; but what starts as a unnecesary habit can turn itno a dependence or an addiction
Guess you can control yourself= true with the green stuff; wrong with something else which brought chaos for a while, years ago
young people take older as example=people who take drugs in front og younger people: IDIOTS. But if everyone is a consenting adult, I don't want somebody else telling me what I can do with my body (and remember: I've seen the dark side)
lead to disaster= yes, even marihuana can lead to disaster, to psychological dependence (it doesn't generate physical addiction as other drugs do).
But this still doesn't prove that drugs are a big L if you are beyond 20. Actually, beyond 20 should be the LEGAL AGE to decide whether you do it or not.... All of these arguments just prove that drugs are dangerous, an unnecesary risk, whatever... not the big L.
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Posted: July 02 2007 at 14:39 |
The T wrote:
cuncuna wrote:
Nevertheless, drugs are a big L in your forehead if you are beyond 20. |
Why? (I mean, ocassionally) |
Besides being an unnecesary habit, the margin can be as wide as narrow. I guess you can control yourself; there's people who can't. There's young people who take other people as exmaple. "If they do it, it's ok". Unless you could have your "ocassional joint" legally checked (1-2 by month, something like that), there is simply not a single way to assure that the use of even that apparently harmless drug won't lead to disaster.
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emdiar
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Posted: July 02 2007 at 11:01 |
Why should losers have all the fun?
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tardis
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Posted: July 02 2007 at 09:27 |
I've witnessed drugs destroy too many lives.
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The T
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Posted: July 01 2007 at 21:36 |
cuncuna wrote:
Nevertheless, drugs are a big L in your forehead if you are beyond 20. |
Why? (I mean, ocassionally)
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cuncuna
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Posted: July 01 2007 at 21:30 |
The people I know who (still) smokes have serious issues with discipline, structure and etc. It's their problem and their live, and I don't give a rat's behind. I know a guy who smokes before driving. As a drug with hypnotical effects, it is obviously not the thing to use while driving, specially if your girlfriend is going with you. Anyway, horrible drugs like alcohol, who has social acceptance, cause a lot more damage than that "usual joint". Nevertheless, drugs are a big L in your forehead if you are beyond 20.
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Posted: July 01 2007 at 20:47 |
MusicForSpeedin wrote:
tardis wrote:
Drugs are for losers. |
Por que? |
Drugs aren't for losers if you try them eventually a few times in life... If you depend on them, you're a loser. if you experimented a few times, that's not being a loser. Bigger losers are those who let others decide what they can do with their personal lives. Drugs are dangerous and, in general, absolutely nefarious, bad, negative, but the occassional joint ( i mean the one you take very seldom, not if you need it every week) or the once-in-a-lifetime LSD trip aren't necessarily examples of people "being losers".... Of course, if you get hooked on that (well, you CAN'T get hooked on LSD, you can only get dependence -psychological- with marihuana, not addiction -physical) then you may become a loser.
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Posted: June 30 2007 at 22:54 |
tardis wrote:
Drugs are for losers. |
Por que?
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cuncuna
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Posted: June 30 2007 at 21:44 |
tardis wrote:
Drugs are for losers.
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I second that.
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emdiar
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Posted: June 29 2007 at 14:17 |
Here in amsterdam there's a head shop on every corner. Just last month a politician tried to ban them from selling magic mushrooms, ('cus of a couple of dumb tourists getting out of their depths and freaking out) but as yet it's business as usual.
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Posted: June 25 2007 at 06:06 |
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