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erik neuteboom
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Topic: The Tubes and The Stranglers Posted: April 19 2007 at 19:33 |
Hello progheads.
What about The Tubes and The Stranglers as new additions to Prog Archives?
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Bastille Dude
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Posted: April 19 2007 at 20:59 |
I don't know much about The Stranglers, I do love The Tubes though I'm unsure of their proginess. I just don't know.
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Moogtron III
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Posted: April 20 2007 at 03:47 |
I like the Tubes. They did some very good stuff. I don't think you could call them them prog related, though. Did they have anything other than just "songs"? Creative songs, for sure. But then again, I just listened to a few albums. Are they prog related in any way?
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Floydoid
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Posted: April 20 2007 at 04:58 |
The Stranglers were certainly one of the best bands to emerge in the punk/new wave era of the late 70's, but I can't imagine how you'd begin to consider them to be prog-related.
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Posted: April 20 2007 at 05:16 |
For the use of the keyboards and the atmospheres THE STRANGLERS are PROG RELATED.
THE TUBES... I think... I think that not haven't Prog Elements... But I don't know them well.
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Posted: April 20 2007 at 05:58 |
Good luck with this Erik .... if you succeed with The Tubes I shall be first in the queue for some rave reviews .... Don't Touch Me THERE!!!!!
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: April 20 2007 at 06:55 |
... if you really care !
Well, I witnessed gigs by The Tubes (1979) and The Stranglers (1981), in that era their music could match with Art-rock in my opinion. And don't forget that Robert Fripp joined The Stranglers on one gig, it's on CD 
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Posted: April 20 2007 at 07:23 |
erik neuteboom wrote:
... if you really care !
Well, I witnessed gigs by The Tubes (1979) and The Stranglers (1981), in that era their music could match with Art-rock in my opinion. And don't forget that Robert Fripp joined The Stranglers on one gig, it's on CD  |
I think I'd need a little more convincing than that Erik.....
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Posted: April 20 2007 at 07:44 |
i was never really interested in the Tubes but was a big fan of the Stranglers in the 70's, they're a great band! many felt they were a commercial rock band riding on the new wave bandwagon at the time, they made some fabulous music and had regular chart entries, including a reggae style song "Nice an' Sleazy" and some great rock numbers "Somethin' better Change" and also covered some rather gloomy subjects such as nuclear power "Nuclear Device/Yellowcake uf6 " and nuclear war was high in the nation's conciousness at the time during President Carter's S.A.L.T. Treaty talks with the Russians ( Ian Gillan also covered this with his "M.A.D" single). As for the Stranglers being Prog i would say no, though i haven't heard all of their albums they would be worthy of discussion.
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Posted: April 20 2007 at 08:40 |
Don't know The Tubes.
The Stranglers may have some hints of prog in their mid-period but overall I don't see them belonging here.
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Chicapah
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Posted: April 20 2007 at 08:50 |
The Tubes were excellent as a band but their styles were all over the place and I'm not so sure they did enough prog to qualify here. They definitely had a sense of humor and a lot of courage. Not familiar with the Stranglers at all.
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akin
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Posted: April 20 2007 at 08:58 |
The Stranglers have at least two albums that could be considered
strongly prog influenced: The Raven and The Gospel According to
Meninblack. They have other songs to be considered mainly in their
early albums, like the four part suite Down in the Sewer, Walk on by
and some others, with use of odd time signatures, excellent keyboards
and bass passages, unusual drum patterns.
This is a fact. If they are considered prog or prog-related according
to this site, I just don't know and it is up to the team members or
admins to decide.
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AOR_Crazy
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Posted: April 20 2007 at 10:07 |
I listen and love very much both of the bands and since i listen actively progressive music i stand strongly on the opinion that those two bands ARE NOT prog music. The Tubes are some kind of AOR/Melodic hard rock with funny lyrics and The Stranglers are mixture between dark/new wave/post punk music.
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Moogtron III
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Posted: April 20 2007 at 10:25 |
Joolz wrote:
Don't Touch Me THERE!!!!!  |
Anywhere, but not...
Don't... EVER... !
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: April 20 2007 at 15:37 |
Just listen to the 2-CD compilation to discover what a progressive blend of styles The Tubes has delivered all those years so I disagree with AOR/melodic hardrock.
To me The Stranglers sound as Art-rock as Queen does after their punk/new wave in the early years.
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Soul Dreamer
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Posted: April 20 2007 at 23:09 |
Well, I don't know about The Tubes (ignorant me...) but about The Stranglers I shurely agree that they belong in the prog-related section of these archives. Even their earliest work is allready prog related (listen to the keyboards in Rattus Norvegicus and No More Heroes) and lateron the link only becomes stronger...
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AOR_Crazy
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Posted: April 21 2007 at 08:44 |
Well my friend i don't need to listen to that compilation 'cause i have all The Tubes albums in my collection. If you think that The Tubes are prog-related you're wrong cause we could put then a whole bunch of bands into prog-related and that is in my opinion useless. I shall say it again, although progressive is a wide type of music genre it is defined at the same time, a lot of people tend to philosophy over this and that but it's all babble to me, i know what progressive music is. Hey lets put Madonna in progressive metal?
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: April 21 2007 at 09:21 |
Excuse me AOR Crazy, I don't know what progressive music is ...
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AOR_Crazy
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Posted: April 21 2007 at 11:54 |
Oh, you're blushing, well i don't know if you're an expert in symphonic prog or whatever but if you say you are what are your arguments for saying that The Tubes are progressive??
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: April 21 2007 at 12:28 |
My arguments for considering The Tubes as a band with interesting progressive ideas are:
- the use of shifting moods and (surprising) breaks
- a varied instrumentation including vintage keyboards
- blending different styles
Don't get me wrong, I am not pushing to add The Tubes and The Stranglers to this site, I am only asking for opinions about their progressive potential, my personal opinion is that both bands have had a very interesting Art-Rock period.
Edited by erik neuteboom - April 21 2007 at 12:29
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