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Posted: April 19 2007 at 12:37 |
 Forkface wrote:
Well, as far as the choices on the list goes, NIK TURNER.
But by far, my favorite sax player is JOHN ZORN. It's a crime he is not on the list, as most of the choices don't even come close to ZORN. The omission of Lindsay Cooper, I also consider criminal. |
Do your own poll, that's it!! 
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Posted: April 19 2007 at 00:54 |
Well, as far as the choices on the list goes, NIK TURNER.
But by far, my favorite sax player is JOHN ZORN. It's a crime he is not on the list, as most of the choices don't even come close to ZORN. The omission of Lindsay Cooper, I also consider criminal.
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Posted: April 16 2007 at 10:31 |
mrgd wrote:
TO DARKSIDEOF:
Dick Heath posted the news on 13/1 [see the Prog News thread]. It was only shortly before we got the news of Ian Wallace's passing [of early KC fame and more recently 21st.Century Schizoid Band and the Crimson Jazz Trio {CJ3}]. All very sad indeed. |
I was informed of that too.!!!
I saw 21st century last time they tour with Ian and he looked so alive and healthy. He was so talented and a very underrated drummer. Iguess when it is time to go it is time to go. So sad.!
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Posted: April 16 2007 at 02:12 |
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TO DARKSIDEOF:
Dick Heath posted the news on 13/1 [see the Prog News thread]. It was only shortly before we got the news of Ian Wallace's passing [of early KC fame and more recently 21st.Century Schizoid Band and the Crimson Jazz Trio {CJ3}]. All very sad indeed.
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Posted: April 16 2007 at 00:51 |
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Posted: April 16 2007 at 00:40 |
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DIDIER MALHERBE; Gong
Family You got to listen to your GONG's albums more often. Didier is a master on his instruments.The only on that list that can be compare is Mr. Shorter, however I did not chooce him because he is a jazz player.
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Posted: April 15 2007 at 21:12 |
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I forgot to mention that Mel Collins has made significant contributions to Jakko Jakszyk's recent double CD release 'The Bruised Romantic Glee Club' of which I know Dick Heath is an admirer. If you're interested there is an old topic under 'recommendations' that discusses this release or just get on to Jakko's web site dedicated to the album. You won't be disappointed - you may just discover some hidden treasure because this release with some of progs current best contributing has been sadly overlooked.
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Posted: April 15 2007 at 21:00 |
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I feel it's a little strange putting Shorter amongst this group due to his heavy fusion/jazz involvement and in that idiom he's a superior player.
Mel Collins and Ian McDonald have done fabulous work more recently with '21st. Century Schizoid Band' arguably superior to what they did on the same songs with KC, though their work with '21st.CSB' is live. Woodwind enthusiasts should check it out.
Yes, Keith Gemmel of 'Audience' is an often overlooked player who has produced some wonderfully amospheric solos particularly on 'Friend's...' and 'House....'.
Jack Lancaster was a great player, but he probably was not associated with prog. enough. Some of his work with 'Blodwyn Pig' was great and he was involved in the eclectic 'Marscape' project with Robin Lumley and others members of 'Brand X'. So is Jimmy Hastings who has already been mentioned.
Dick Heckstall-Smith and Michael Brecker RIP. It's no sin to mention them in the same breath.
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Posted: April 14 2007 at 01:54 |
Lots of great players on this list, so that choosing a favourite is not easy at all. However, I picked out Traffic's Chris Wood - both because I actually love his playing, and because someone else does too...   . Other favs of mine are, of course, McDonald, Collins, the underrated Andy McKay and the sadly unmentioned Jimmy Hastings.
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Posted: April 13 2007 at 21:09 |
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nice list apart from the space rock dude lol. I think I'd like to vote for everyone in Picchio dal Pozzo.
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Posted: April 13 2007 at 21:08 |
Dennis wrote:
Ian McDonald. What he did with King Crimson in 1969 was unheard of at the time in rock music. The sounds produced like the Pan-like flute in "I Talk To The Wind," and the wild, free-form jazz-like sax of "21st Century Schizoid Man" were never heard before in rock. This was shocking, and quite forward thinking at the time. There may be better woodwind players in rock, but Mr. McDonald led the pack, and cleared the path ahead. I know we are talking woodwinds here, but what about what he did for the mellotron too? Would that instrument be so highly loved in prog if it wasn't for Ian? |
Well-said, my good man! Also, his recording-overdubbing of woodwinds, et al, to get the caliope effect on 'In the Court...' is superb and inspiring as well....
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Posted: April 13 2007 at 19:51 |
Sasquamo wrote:
Wayne Shorter is my favorite on that list by whole whole whole lot. Jazz vs Rock of any kind, jazz wins.
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Kinda true if only on a technical level. Taste-wise, the competition is usually tighter.
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Posted: April 12 2007 at 21:22 |
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John Hackett can sure play that flute. He's almost as impressive as his big bro.
Didier Malherbe is my favorite from the list. Gong had some scorching sax solos when he was in the band
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Posted: April 12 2007 at 21:09 |
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Wayne Shorter is my favorite on that list by whole whole whole lot. Jazz vs Rock of any kind, jazz wins.
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Posted: April 12 2007 at 19:01 |
Anyway, there's a lot of really good musicians on the list (and I really have no way of knowing who's more talented) but I think Mel Collins merits another vote. 
So here I go....
bing! Mel's up to 5! 
Edited by Peter Rideout - April 12 2007 at 19:03
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Posted: April 12 2007 at 18:30 |
Yeah , I remember Ian Mcdonald's classic work with Foreigner ... 
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Posted: April 12 2007 at 04:54 |
 Mel Collins
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Posted: April 12 2007 at 04:09 |
The Whistler wrote:
Oh yeah, that Van Der Graaf Generator dude. But who was the Crimso dude on "Starless?" I pick him. Yeah. |
Mel Collins and Ian McDonald, so you'll have to pick two 
Where's Johannes Pappert (Kraan)? His use of effects on saxophone was amazing, I think he would have deserved to be in the poll...
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Posted: April 12 2007 at 02:59 |
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Oh yeah, that Van Der Graaf Generator dude. But who was the Crimso dude on "Starless?" I pick him. Yeah.
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Posted: April 11 2007 at 21:56 |
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by far the best musican of the bunch is wayne shorter. but then again its probably not fair to compare legitimate jazz musicians to rock musicains (albeit very talented and innovative rock musicians).
Edited by william314159 - April 12 2007 at 11:53
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