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Marcelo
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Topic: Worst progressive album Posted: March 05 2004 at 12:08 |
Is not easy to find a really bad prog album. Including not prog stuffs from prog bands (by example Invisible Touch or Talk), which could be the worst albums?
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Dan Bobrowski
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Posted: March 05 2004 at 12:18 |
Sorry Marcelo,
I think there are many horrible Prog albums out there, however, I don't find either of those to be in the "WORST" category. 90215 is brilliant and breathed new life into a dying band. I think the media overplayed it, but it's still a good disc. Abacab was good pop, not much prog there.
Try agin with more choices. John Wetton let go a few musical farts in his time.
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StarshipTrooper
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Posted: March 05 2004 at 12:47 |
I might upset a few people here but...(takes a deep breath) I really dont see what the attraction of In The Court Of The Crimson King is. I suppose in its day it was probably a great album for that time but I rarely play it now. It just (takes another deep breath) sounds horrible. I am not posting this to get a sl*gging off, Its just my humble opinion.
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Aerandir
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Posted: March 05 2004 at 13:21 |
Someone once told me that the best music is that we like most! I guess that this counts for the worst music too! Each composer or member of the band has a reason to believe that the album has a good reason to be recorded. The band records a piece from his own soul with every album! I only have worst-for-the-moments albums that i'm gonna like them tomorrow!
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: March 05 2004 at 13:34 |
StarshipTrooper wrote:
I might upset a few people here but...(takes a deep breath) I really dont see what the attraction of In The Court Of The Crimson King is. I suppose in its day it was probably a great album for that time but I rarely play it now. It just (takes another deep breath) sounds horrible. I am not posting this to get a sl*gging off, Its just my humble opinion. |
I wouldn't call it the worst prog album of all time by far but, like you I rarely play it anymore. Afew years ago I spent about 40 bucks on the Epitaph box set and I don't listen to that either!
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Marcelo
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Posted: March 05 2004 at 13:36 |
I hope that anyone who loves albums like Abacab, 90125, etc., doesn't upset. They are just examples (poll structure requires at least two options). Words like "worst" or "best" are just a guide for a personal opinion.
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: March 05 2004 at 13:40 |
Worst prog album of all-time: A la Carte by Triumvirat.
A monumental catastrophe.
Honourable Mention: Focus con Proby by Focus
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Peter
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Posted: March 05 2004 at 15:19 |
Vibrationbaby wrote:
Worst prog album of all-time: A la Carte by Triumvirat.
A monumental catastrophe.
Honourable Mention: Focus con Proby by Focus
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I agree Vibe, I had both of those duds on vinyl. Total crapola!
And don't forget that inane "Mr. Loboto" garbage from Stynx! That song (and video) made me want to cut my ears off!
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lucas
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Posted: March 05 2004 at 15:28 |
danbo wrote:
Sorry Marcelo,
I think there are many horrible Prog albums out there, however, I don't find either of those to be in the "WORST" category. 90215 is brilliant and breathed new life into a dying band. I think the media overplayed it, but it's still a good disc. Abacab was good pop, not much prog there.
Try agin with more choices. John Wetton let go a few musical farts in his time.
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You're right '90125' is a good album, and certainly better than 'Drama' or 'Tormato'. Concerning John Wetton, he didn't record anything good since the end of the seventies and I think 'Asia' is one of the worst band I ever heard in my life, I can say the same about the long awaited come back of ELP (with the exception of ELPowell), that soiled once more ELP's discography after 'Love beach'. It seems to me that every prog band follows the same pattern : first, write complex music that appeals to few people, then the need to earn more money and to rest neurons with simpler songs that can be played on radio and subsequently appeal to a wider public.
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richardh
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Posted: March 05 2004 at 15:57 |
ABACAB! I for one hate it. 90125 isn't that bad.The idea of 'BAD' is very subjective though.''One man's poison'' and all that.
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dude
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Posted: March 23 2004 at 18:36 |
actually i thought ABACAB was PRETTY good, i liked the title track and "DODO" except...what the hell was he singing about...either the dodo was a metaphor for something(dying love etc )....or he was really singing about dodos!!! anyway....TORMATO was pretty bland(bit of a rotten tormato really).There are also albums, while not "BAD" as such.did not really inspire me and thus, sat on the shelf gathering dust,one was beleive it or not ....THE WALL(except for Comfortably numb!!) Works by ELP was another.
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Dan Bobrowski
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Posted: March 23 2004 at 20:11 |
What about GTR and the Emerson, Berry and Powell project "3"?
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Tauhd Zaļa
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Posted: March 24 2004 at 01:19 |
I think I have two pearls, guys :
- "Real to Reel " - Starcastle
- "Muttered Promises" - Galadriel
These two records were just made to freak the birds
Anyway as others I like "90125" wich saved Yes from the (Drama)ti(tani)c shipwreak and "Abacab" made mainly on the basis of rehearseal improvisations.
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arqwave
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Posted: March 24 2004 at 01:20 |
i agree with the ABACAB stuff, but really, 90125 has a concept, and a fair way to get rid of the eighties... however, why not mention ASIA's albums like Alpha or Astra, or the xeroxe's that surronds the "prog-metal scene", there is a lot of material that should be thrown away, i propose to keep looking until we really find the worst album of prog???? or whatever they want to call it... if there's a bad record of prog, well, then, is not a prog record.
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Jim Garten
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Posted: March 24 2004 at 03:32 |
It's gotta be GTR -
Hackett and Howe - 2 titans of the prog rock field, get together in the studio for the first time , thrilling all who heard of this collaboration , and release...... to much anticipation.........
Crap!
Total, Utter and Complete doody on plastic!
Even Jon Bon Jovi was heard to mutter "oooohhh, that's a bit of weak AOR isn't it?"
I would rather sit naked in a puddle of someone elses digestive juices and stick blunt pins in my eyes whilst a leather dominatrix clad Pavarotti tries to make sweet, passionate love to me, than ever listen to that pile of poo ever again......
Words (almost) fail me as to precisely how bad this album is.........
But I shall try......
Here goes.....
Ready????
Deep breath........
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH - STOP IT!!! STOP IT!!!
I wouldn't really recommend this as a good prog rock album..........
Ahem.....
Thank you.....
I'm going back to bed now......
Night, Night......
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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dude
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Posted: March 24 2004 at 05:34 |
JIM:I get the feeling you really WOULD like to sit in that dominatrix shadowed digestive puddle
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Stormcrow
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Posted: March 24 2004 at 06:06 |
Jim Garten wrote:
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH - STOP IT!!! STOP IT!!!
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Don't hold back Garten. Tell us what you really feel!
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Stormcrow
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Posted: March 24 2004 at 06:15 |
I have to say that while I don't consider either "90125" or "Abacab" to be great moments in the history of progressive rock, from a strictly personal standpoint I do enjoy both albums on a narrow (or wider if you prefer) rock 'n' roll basis.
Both are "bad" only on the basis of what came before. If taken on their own merits, they are both quite listenable.
However if they cause your own digestive juices to spill over on Luciano Pavoratti's leather dominatrix outfit, I wouldn't for a moment force you to listen to them.
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maani
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Posted: March 24 2004 at 11:44 |
As usual, I find myself in the minority () I happen to love Abacab (in its own way; it's obviously not the "Genesis" we all know and love), and although I think 90125 is pretty good (though, again, certainly not the "Yes" we all know and love), and might be better than Drama, I am surprised at the negative comments on Tormato, which, along with Going for the One, I consider Yes' best mid-period albums.
Among the worst prog albums I've heard thus far (as a reviewer, anyway) was a Versus X album, the title of which I forget. Read my review and you'll know why.
IMHO, however, wouldn't it seem that the minute you call something "the worst prog album ever," it ceases being prog? That is, if it's the "worst," then it's the worst attempt at prog, but never actually reaches it.
Peace.
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richardh
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Posted: March 24 2004 at 13:55 |
dude wrote:
actually i thought ABACAB was PRETTY good, i liked the title track and "DODO" except...what the hell was he singing about...either the dodo was a metaphor for something(dying love etc)....or he was really singing about dodos!!! anyway....TORMATO was pretty bland(bit of a rotten tormato really).There are also albums, while not "BAD" as such.did not really inspire me and thus, sat on the shelf gathering dust,one was beleive it or not ....THE WALL(except for Comfortably numb!!) Works by ELP was another. |
SHAME ON YOU!!! ELP's Pirates (from Works) is sublime although there is too much solo music admittedly on this record,The Wall packs a punch and is my favourite Floyd album and Tormato although patchy does have some impressive moments.
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