"Fake" instruments v.s "real" instruments

Me and my friend were semi-debating about real instruments and fake ones. This was how it was, he would say a violin is real because it didn't need electricity to operate, and a keyboard/synth was.

It all started about when he was saying electronic music wasn't real.

What are you thoughts, PA community?

Dang... I just realised this should in be in regular Polls. Please move it admins, if thats right.


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Long before I discovered prog and all his amazing keyboards I used to think that way...not anymore!!!!

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I'm sorry if you think this is stupid. But you think it is, please detain yourself from posting in it.

Meddler wrote: R o V e R wrote: i'm so tired of stupid polls, I'm sorry if you think this is stupid. But you think it is, please detain yourself from posting in it.

 

you are right,   i shouldnt post,    

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stonebeard wrote: So electric guitars, basses, keyboards, synths, electronics, and basically any production or recording of instruments is out... ... No.

 

fake music

I wouldn't call synths "fake" I think electronic samples (if they were really bad) could be described as fake by some people, but personally I just consider any electronic instrument a different instrument altogether and I would have them in the same competition as any acoustic instrument. It all just depends on how good it sounds, even an electronic imitation of an instrument that sounds rubbish in comparison to an instrument it's trying to imitate can have it's own unique sound that might be quite good.

EDIT: Just to elaborate on that: What i had in mind is Neil Pearts new thing of using samples of percussion in songs, Electronic drums in the 80's sounded great because that worked with the music. Although recently he has used Electronic samples of Percussion in songs that previously used acoustic percussion, i.e. Xanadu and The Trees. I personally doesnt think this works, part of the majic of Xanadu was the atmpospherics at the beginning. But i wouldn't dismiss the samples as being fake and unworthy of use, they are perfectly nice sounds, but it's because of the previous recording that i'm used to that it doesn't appeal to me as much.


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Joolz wrote: Please elaborate as to what is 'fake music'. Surely music is either musical or it isn't. How can it be 'fake'? Or are you referring to the sounds used to create music (eg string sounds made on a synth instead of real strings)?

I'm reffering to keyboards in general, and to some extent eletronic music. (e.i. Frank Klepacki(not prog but electronic music), Kraftwerk, etc.) So I would be reffering to something used to create music.

It is true that you could say it's fake. Isn't that waht synthesised means? But
there are some sounds that you just can't get from acoustic (or acoustic
based) insruments. Would early prog have been the same without the moog,
or mellowtron? I do have to say that entirely synthesised music was
interesting as a novelty at first, but ended up not holding up over time.
There are several bands that were totally synthesised, that ended up
returning to strings, and acoustic percussion (although, this was most
prevalent in New Wave/Alternative music).

bhikkhu wrote: It is true that you could say it's fake. Isn't that waht synthesised means?

No, it isn't.

syn·the·size    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (snth-sz)
v. syn·the·sized, syn·the·siz·ing, syn·the·siz·es
v. tr.

1. To combine so as to form a new, complex product: “His works synthesize photography, painting and linguistic devices” (Paul Taylor).
2. To form or produce by chemical synthesis.

Does a keyboard need a human being to operate it in real time? Yes. It is a "real" instrument.