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Poll Question: Favorite/greatest?
Poll Choice Votes Poll Statistics
6 [11.76%]
1 [1.96%]
2 [3.92%]
4 [7.84%]
6 [11.76%]
2 [3.92%]
3 [5.88%]
4 [7.84%]
3 [5.88%]
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4 [7.84%]
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2 [3.92%]
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1 [1.96%]
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1 [1.96%]
2 [3.92%]
3 [5.88%]
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    Posted: April 19 2022 at 11:46
I'm procrastinating and dug up 24 of the most profilic jazzrockers of the golden era to make a poll. For no real reason. Polls can make for interesting discussions. About a dozen of these aren't personal favorites of mine, but seemed essential in one way or another. I could easily have made a totally different poll.

Got a favorite here - or another favorite not here - or no favorite anywhere? Did I forget something or someone essential? Should I have left out bnads placed elsewhere on PA? Let me know. Write something.
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Did Allan Holdswoth's solo material not make the cut because his first official release, I.O.U, was 1982? He is by far my favorite, but not prolific perhaps?

Anyway, Pat Metheny is my runner up. Dig his work, especially when he collaborated with Lyle Mays.
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That's a mighty fine list, I have to go with that Zappa set just ahead of Soft Machine, Pekka, Herbie & Miles.

Isn't Zao the jazzy side of Zeuhl?
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On first glance...about 2/3 of the list above. LOL
But IF I had to choose just one, I'd have to give my nod to Santana.
With Herbie Hancock, Chick Corea/Return To Forever, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Jean-Luc Ponty & Brand X breathing down their necks.
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MILES!
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Caravan  (UK)  -  In The Land of Grey and Pink  (1971)

Catapilla  (UK)  -  Catapilla  (1971) 

Miles Davis  (USA)  -  Bitches Brew  (1970)

Embryo  (D)  -  We Keep On   (1973)

Fermáta  (TCH)  -  Pieseň z Hôľ  (1977)

Gong  (F)  -  Shamal  (1975)

The “Gunesh” Ensemble  (USSR)  -  Looking At The Earth  (1984)

Herbie Hancock  (USA)  -  Man-Child  (1975)

Iman, Califato Independiente (ESP) - Iman, Califato Independiente (1978)

Khan  (UK)  -  Space Shanty   (1972)

Made In Sweden  (S)  -  "Where Do We Begin"  (1976)

Mahavishnu Orchestra  (USA)  -  Birds of Fire  (1973)

Czesław Niemen (PL)  -  Niemen Aerolit   (1975)

Osibisa  (Africa)  -  Osibisa   (1971)

Jean-Luc Ponty  (F)  -  Upon the Wings of Music  (1975)

Return to Forever  (USA)  -  Where Have I Known You  Before (1974)

Santana  (USA)  -  Caravanserai  (1972)

SBB  (PL)  -  2:  Nowy Horyzont  (1975)

Secret Oyster  (DK)  -  Sea Sun   (1974)

The Soft Machine  (UK)  -  The Soft Machine  (1968)

Weather Report  (USA)  -  Black Market  (1976)

Wigwam  (FIN)  -  Being   (1974)
Stomu Yamashta  (J)  -  Raindog   (1975) 

Frank Zappa  (USA)  -  Hot Rats  (1969) 


I'm fond/very fond of all of these albums!



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Miles, of course.
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From the list, Pat Metheny is the greatest and my favorite. His productivity and variety of styles, sounds and collaborators is unsurpassed. 

The most amazing/transformational albums came from Tony Williams' Lifetime (Emergency!), John McLaughlin (Devotion), Mahavishnu Orchestra (The Inner Mounting Flame), and Area (Crac!).
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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

That's a mighty fine list, I have to go with that Zappa set just ahead of Soft Machine, Pekka, Herbie & Miles.

Isn't Zao the jazzy side of Zeuhl?
Thanks, yes I think they are. That's why I included them (Zao).
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Did Allan Holdswoth's solo material not make the cut because his first official release, I.O.U, was 1982? He is by far my favorite, but not prolific perhaps?
I'm afraid I'm not really much of a fan of his playing. But he's featured on lots of great albums by others here. And well one soloalbum at the end of the "classic era" (Velvet Darkness which I admittedly have't heard) can't be considered profilic.


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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Gong  (F)  -  Shamal  (1975)

Osibisa  (Africa)  -  Osibisa   (1971)

SBB  (PL)  -  2:  Nowy Horyzont  (1975)

Secret Oyster  (DK)  -  Sea Sun   (1974)

Stomu Yamashta  (J)  -  Raindog   (1975) 

These could very well have been included + I like them a lot, but there was only space for 24.
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Love Area too, but they're like a genre of their own (if they were from the UK, Belgium or France I suspect they would have been in Avant/RIO)
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For me it's between the Mahavishnu Orchestra, Return to Forever, and Miles Davis. The rest are great, and could also be considered essential, along with other artist not mentioned in this list, but those three are my favorites.
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My post here, Saperlipopette!, may be my new approach to polls, and it's just my way to answer your questions. Smile







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50% are on my list and the first one is mahavishnu orchestra then Rypdal, Ponty, Passport, Brand X, Zappa, Metheny
others : Michal Urbaniak, Lockwood, Alan Holdsworth, Mingo Lewis, ..
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


My post here, Saperlipopette!, may be my new approach to polls, and it's just my way to answer your questions. Smile
Yes, all I meant was that I considered them all. And based on personal preference alone I would probably have included them (well the bands).
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Got a favorite here - or another favorite not here - or no favorite anywhere? Did I forget something or someone essential? Should I have left out bnads placed elsewhere on PA? Let me know. Write something.
Because you're asking. The Dregs / Dixie Dregs seem to always be forgotten in these fusion polls. They are essential in my world.



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I Really like lots of the artists listed but am going to go for two of the most obvious and well known because they are who i tend to turn to if i'm in that mood: Pat Metheny and Weather Report.

I also really rate this Swedish fusion outfit, have a couple of their lps
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