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arkitek 
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 Posted: March 16 2005 at 13:49 |
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A Concept album (in this context) is a CD/Album where all the tracks are telling a story...
after hearing this i know wot it is so i voted DT 
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Posted: March 16 2005 at 14:22 |
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In all fairness to Queensryche, "Operation Mindcrime" also tells a story,it's definitely a concept album,albeit a bloody awful one.
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Posted: March 16 2005 at 15:01 |
"Operation: Mindcrime" for me, please - as "Scenes from a Memory" is the biggest heap of spinach Dream Theater have ever recorded. It's just that: an overrated, pretentious, derivative piece of stagnation featuring bits of old DT, Savatage, U2, Kansas, Frank Zappa, Rush, Roger Waters, annoying lyrics and a schmaltzy MOR singer. Thank God they found their energy again and unleashed that fine "Train of Thought" album (derivative as well but ... meaty!).
- Apart from that: Misplaced Childhood of course. And The Wall. And DSOTM and Clutching at Straws (are they concept albums?)
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: March 16 2005 at 15:59 |
There's such a large catalogue of excellent conceptual albums that I wouldn't vote for any of the two mentioned.
- The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
- 666
- Quadrophenia
- Tales of Mystery and Imagination
- Spartacus
- The War of the Worlds
- Six Wives of Henry the VIII
- Pictures at an Exhibition
- Darwin! (Banco del Mutuo Soccorso)
- Thick as a Brick
- Tales from Topographic Oceans
- Revolutions (Magenta)
- Illusions on a Double Dimple
- Dark Side of the Moon (Well, semi conceptual at least)
- The Wall
- I Robot
- Heaven & Hell (Vangelis)
- Myths and Legends of King Arthur...
- Peter & The Wolf (Brand X plus Bruford, Eno, etc)
- Days of Futire Passed
IMHO the two mentioned are in a minor league.
Iván
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 01:36 |
Among those two I've voted for Scenes - really great album! (The only great album by DT though... IMO).
Operation is also delicious 
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I Prophesy Disaster...
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 01:38 |
 ivan_2068 wrote:
There's such a large catalogue of excellent conceptual albums that I wouldn't vote for any of the two mentioned.
- The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
- 666
- Quadrophenia
- Tales of Mystery and Imagination
- Spartacus
- The War of the Worlds
- Six Wives of Henry the VIII
- Pictures at an Exhibition
- Darwin! (Banco del Mutuo Soccorso)
- Thick as a Brick
- Tales from Topographic Oceans
- Revolutions (Magenta)
- Illusions on a Double Dimple
- Dark Side of the Moon (Well, semi conceptual at least)
- The Wall
- I Robot
- Heaven & Hell (Vangelis)
- Myths and Legends of King Arthur...
- Peter & The Wolf (Brand X plus Bruford, Eno, etc)
- Days of Futire Passed
IMHO the two mentioned are in a minor league.
Iván
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What about Jesus Christ Superstar, Tommy and A Passion Play?
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I Prophesy Disaster...
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Rob The Good
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 05:02 |
What a fantastic list! The Lamb is certainly the greatest for me.
I can't really comment on the 2 albums in the poll because I'm not a fan of either
The whole thing about CTTE being a concept album confused me: mind you, Jon Anderson's lyrics are so esoteric it can mean anything you want it to 
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And Jesus said unto John, "come forth and receive eternal life..."
Unfortunately, John came fifth and was stuck with a toaster.
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Pixel Pirate
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 05:25 |
Miaugion wrote:
"Operation: Mindcrime" for me, please - as "Scenes from a Memory" is the biggest heap of spinach Dream Theater have ever recorded. It's just that: an overrated, pretentious, derivative piece of stagnation featuring bits of old DT, Savatage, U2, Kansas, Frank Zappa, Rush, Roger Waters, annoying lyrics and a schmaltzy MOR singer. Thank God they found their energy again and unleashed that fine "Train of Thought" album (derivative as well but ... meaty!).
- Apart from that: Misplaced Childhood of course. And The Wall. And DSOTM and Clutching at Straws (are they concept albums?)
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According to Fish,"Clutching At Straws" is not a concept album. Some of the songs are thematically linked with a thread of alcohol abuse but it's still not a concept album.
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 06:15 |
2112 isn't a concept album.
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 11:21 |
Im sure CTTE is not a concept album for one simple reason, Close to the Edge, And You and I and Siberian Khatru are three songe with no relation in the lyrics, a concept album is like a book and the songs are like chapters (Except in One song concept albums like Thick as a Brick), this is not the case of CTTE, as simple as that.
What about Jesus Christ Superstar, Tommy and A Passion Play? |
Good question Emperor, both are amomg my favorites but there's not room enough to list all the great concept albums, and in the case of Tommy and Jesus Christ Superstar I tried to avoid Rock Operas, because IMO they belong to a slightly different genre that includes mostly dialogues instead of lyrics.
Iván
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 13:10 |
OPERATION: MINDCRIME
In my top 5 favorite metal albums of all-time.
Metropolis Part 2: Scenes From a Memory is great, but at times too derivative.
Peace & take care 
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 13:34 |
Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band,
might not be prog but one of the first and the BEST!
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 13:50 |
Dreamer wrote:
Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band,
might not be prog but one of the first and the BEST! |
...But it isn't a concept album! Everyone involved in its production has attested to that fact.
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Dreamer
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 14:13 |
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Did they? The idea behind it was that a band called "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" would go touring and do a concert. which is what we have on the album. They wanted to have acts, like Mr. Kite and all that, and there is an intro and an outro... I guess in some ways it is and in some ways it isn't, but i like to think it is.
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 14:28 |
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The Snow Goose!
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"I'm in a freefall like a snowflake falling down down down down down."
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The Hemulen
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 14:34 |
Dreamer wrote:
Did they? The idea behind it was that a band called
"Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" would go touring and do a
concert. which is what we have on the album. They wanted to have acts,
like Mr. Kite and all that, and there is an intro and an outro... I
guess in some ways it is and in some ways it isn't, but i like to think
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I agree with that, but that's more an excuse for a bunch of songs than
a true concept album. There's no overarching theme or story to it.
For me, one of the greatest concept albums of all time is the
criminally underrated "Captain Lockheed & the Starfighters" by
Robert Calvert. Not really prog, mayhaps, but a damn fine fusion of
great songs, captivating story and hilarious comedy - the result is
something funny, tragic and infuriatingly catchy. I just wish someone
else could've heard of it. *sighs*
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 17:43 |
Does anyone think that such albums as Tangerine dream 'Rubycon' & 'Pheadra' could be though of as concept albums.
They kinda tell a story in an Electronic field...
More noticeable with Edgar Froese & Klause Shulze early offerings.
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 17:54 |
ivan_2068 wrote:
IMHO the two mentioned are in a minor league.
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Yes, Iván. The Lamb, The Wall, and Quadrophenia are in a major league compared to the two mentioned.
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Tony
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 18:48 |
The Lamb for me! Since it's the best album period, it has to be the best concept album.
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Valarius
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 18:57 |
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"Scens From A Memory" definately. One of my favourite albums of all time!
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