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Aaron
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Topic: to the old folks Posted: March 17 2005 at 13:11 |
how did all of you old farts on this board learn of many of the prog bands not played on the radio, some of the more underground bands, krautrock bands and what not, or italian bands, you know what i am getting at
you see, i have the intertron, what did you have?
Aaron
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plodder
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 13:12 |
NME, Melody Maker and Sounds.
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 14:09 |
Some of the more popular bands I heard back in the 70's because my friends got me into them--Yes, ELP, Todd Rundgren, but later I got turned on to lesser known great bands via these:
Two excellent books by Richie Unterberger--"Urban Spacemen and Wayfaring Strangers: Overlooked Innovators and Eccentric Visionaries of '60s Rock", and "Unknown Legends of Rock 'n' Roll" got me into a lot of older psychedelic stuff and from there early prog is not that far off.
Another helpful book was: "Turn On Your Mind: Four Decades of Great Psychelic Rock" by Jim DeRogatis;
Two excellent prog rock collections:
The Rhino box set "Supernatural Fairy Tales" and "The Best Prog Rock Album in the World Ever"
These collections turned me on to a lot of good older bands, including Roxy Music (and Phil Manzanera solo stuff), Pretty Things, Hawkwind, Atomic Rooster, Camel, Steve Hillage, Can, Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso, Faust, Van der Graaf Generator, and on and on. Then it was a snow ball effect. I'm set for years now!
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Reed Lover
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 14:12 |
Friends who had older brothers,usually at University,sharing their Lps and passion for "good" music. it was like being in a secret society that no-one else was jealous of.
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Easy Livin
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 14:14 |
It's an interesting question Aaron, because of course the internet, e-mail, PCs, MP3s, etc, didn't exist, and in the UK at least, there were very few radio sations playing "current" music.
On the plus side, prog was actaully quite popular in the early 70's, so you'd hear some tracks on the radio, or TV shows like the Old Grey whistle test. Other sources were borrowing friends albums, or listening posts at record shops.
My personal favourite was second hand record shops. I used to buy loads of cheap second hand LPs in the hope that I'd find a few gems. If I found a good one in poor condition, I could always "upgrade" it.
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Pixel Pirate
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 14:22 |
My best friend's older sister.
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Reed Lover
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 14:29 |
Pixel Pirate wrote:
My best friend's older sister. |
We're talking about introduction to sweet music here Pixie,oh..so are you!
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Pixel Pirate
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 14:31 |
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Odi profanum vulgus et arceo.
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 15:20 |
I got into this crazy music just by being adventurous. I would go into
record stores and just buy anything that looked wierd. After a while I
noticed that I couldn`t go wrong if it was German. Roger Dean covers
were also a good indicator and this is how I got into Greenslade,
Midnight Sun, Babe Ruth and Budgie to name a few. I feel sorry for all
the young guys who have been spoiled by the internet. Back then it was
a challenge to discover the next "new" band.
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Pixel Pirate
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 16:06 |
Reed Lover wrote:
Pixel Pirate wrote:
My best friend's older sister. |
We're talking about introduction to sweet music here Pixie,oh..so are you!
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I actually had a big crush on her and wished she would introduce me to all sorts of things,but alas,such was not to be.
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Reed Lover
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 16:08 |
Yeah,us proggers have to make do with... ahem...ploughing a lone furrow..
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Pixel Pirate
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 16:16 |
Reed Lover wrote:
Yeah,us proggers have to make do with... ahem...ploughing a lone furrow..
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I've never been farmer material anyway.
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ProgShine
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 16:18 |
Man, surely The Wall. This albums was totally forgotten by my brother with the old vinyls. I found it, a friend of mine said to me: 'Man heard that one!'
I heard it, but, for a guy with 13 years old was difficult to understand that.
After came Thick As A Brick/Jethro Tull, The Tales Of Mistery And Ijmagination Of Edgar Allan Poe/The Allan Parsons Project, Ashes Are Burning/Renaisence and The Yes Album/Yes...
And after it... I became a slave from Prog Music..
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Dick Heath
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 16:39 |
Aaron wrote:
how did all of you old farts on this board learn of many of the prog bands not played on the radio, some of the more underground bands, krautrock bands and what not, or italian bands, you know what i am getting at
you see, i have the intertron, what did you have?
Aaron
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I prefer Holdsworth's Atavachron...............
To answer you question, by having DJs who were rarely personalities caring for themselves, rather aiming to put good music out on the air, without seeing/hearing boundaries. For all the late John peel's declaration all prog was bollocks before he died, for 10 years his 2 or 3 hour shows kept me fed with a wild variety of eclectic music. And then magazines like Melody Maker and the underground magazines like International Times and Oz - subsequent the excellent Zig Zag (which Mojo 20 years ater try to fashion itself on). Then being near colleges or unis or clubs who put on some very obscure bands (they were cheap). They also played headliners cheap as well!! The (now) boring Kid Jansen (a Canadian in the Uk) playing 3 hours of anything after midnight on Saturday on R Luxembourg. And it helped working on and off in a record shop through the end of the psychedlic period into the ealry 70's - and seeing the press releases and record trade literature...................... Then working in ENTS Committee when I went to University - one of the first to put on Be Bop Deluxe!.
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 17:03 |
Aaron wrote:
how did all of you old farts on this board learn of
many of the prog bands not played on the radio, some of the more
underground bands, krautrock bands and what not, or italian bands, you
know what i am getting at
you see, i have the intertron, what did you have?
Aaron |
"old farts" = Anyone born (or spacecraft landed), before... ?
1. Went to as many live concerts as possible. Example: heard Gentle Giant for the first time live.
2. Friends. Especially ones with lots of money who could afford albums.
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Album cover artwork. This was not a very good method for
investigating never-heard-before groups. A group called Family
had a cool album cover, "Bandstand". I didn't like it at all.
4. Magazine called Circus that did "reviews" of bands, etc. (Don't know if it's still around)
I'm very thankful for this thing we call the Internet
Edited by utah_man
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 17:31 |
Vibrationbaby wrote:
I got into this crazy music just by being adventurous. I would go into record stores and just buy anything that looked wierd. After a while I noticed that I couldn`t go wrong if it was German. Roger Dean covers were also a good indicator and this is how I got into Greenslade, Midnight Sun, Babe Ruth and Budgie to name a few. I feel sorry for all the young guys who have been spoiled by the internet. Back then it was a challenge to discover the next "new" band. |
Couldn't agree more. But I also had friends and acquaintances who enjoyed the same type of music, and I discovered a lot that way too, as we'd borrow LPs from each other or sit around together listneing to the latest on-spec purchase.
Also, the record department of the local department store had a lot of Prog LPs - they were big sellers at the time and available in mainstream stores in Rio and Níteroi - and the buyer could listen to LPs before buying, which I often did (that's where I discovered Greenslade, Triumvirat and Iron Butterfly and Mahavishnu Orchestra amongst others). As VB says, the Roger Dean covers were often a good indicator. I also used to pass a small record shop in Praça XV at the ferry station on the way home from school every day and would often browse through the LPs there and could also ask the attendant to give them a spin. We never seemed to find it difficult to discover new Prog and other rock - the stores seemed to have plenty of it in stock.
And later when I went to the UK to study, Melody Maker, NME and Sounds were, as plodder says, indeed a good source of information on all things Prog.
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dougiejs
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 17:34 |
The main route in for me came from friends older brother who lent me Gentle Giant albums and told me to stop listening to that 'Heavy metal' rubbishfrom there I got a lot of hints from the 70's music press Sounds NME Melody Maker I would also just go into Reddigton's Rare Records and the Diskery in my home town of Birmingham and buy albums that looked suitably bizarre or interesting
by the way I carried on listening to heavy metal anyway!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MAYBE I'LL JUST MAYBE MY LIFE AWAY...........................................
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 22:27 |
Vibrationbaby wrote:
I got into this crazy music just by being adventurous. I would go into record stores and just buy anything that looked wierd. After a while I noticed that I couldn`t go wrong if it was German. Roger Dean covers were also a good indicator and this is how I got into Greenslade, Midnight Sun, Babe Ruth and Budgie to name a few. I feel sorry for all the young guys who have been spoiled by the internet. Back then it was a challenge to discover the next "new" band. |
Agreed ... there's really something to be said for having absolutely no idea what you're in for ... when I bought Selling England By The Pound, I was expecting a (more organic sounding) cross between Invisible Touch and So ... can you imagine that?!? ...
You also had to decipher the lyrics yourself ... and make judgements based on the cover art, track titles and track lengths ... a band photo showing four or five grubby, nerdy long-haired guys usually helped too
It's been a few years since I bought a CD without having even heard of the band ... the last three I can recall were Renaissance, Quintessence and Fotomaker (70's pop/rock) ... oh well two out of three ain't bad ...
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gdub411
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 23:25 |
Actually I only knew of the few mainstream with a couple exceptions...i.e...King Crimson, Marillion, Gentle Giant,etc...... Of course I knew of the usual staplemarkslike Genesis,Pink Floyd, ELP, Rush,etc..I lived 38 years without the knowledge of all these other great bands until I discovered Gibalter and eventually the great great ProgArchives. What a great year of music it has been for me.
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