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goose 
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 Posted: March 17 2005 at 06:15 |
2112 isn't a concept album.
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Pixel Pirate
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 05:25 |
 Miaugion wrote:
"Operation: Mindcrime" for me, please - as "Scenes from a Memory" is the biggest heap of spinach Dream Theater have ever recorded. It's just that: an overrated, pretentious, derivative piece of stagnation featuring bits of old DT, Savatage, U2, Kansas, Frank Zappa, Rush, Roger Waters, annoying lyrics and a schmaltzy MOR singer. Thank God they found their energy again and unleashed that fine "Train of Thought" album (derivative as well but ... meaty!).
- Apart from that: Misplaced Childhood of course. And The Wall. And DSOTM and Clutching at Straws (are they concept albums?)
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According to Fish,"Clutching At Straws" is not a concept album. Some of the songs are thematically linked with a thread of alcohol abuse but it's still not a concept album.
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Odi profanum vulgus et arceo.
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Rob The Good
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 05:02 |
What a fantastic list! The Lamb is certainly the greatest for me.
I can't really comment on the 2 albums in the poll because I'm not a fan of either 
The whole thing about CTTE being a concept album confused me: mind you, Jon Anderson's lyrics are so esoteric it can mean anything you want it to 
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And Jesus said unto John, "come forth and receive eternal life..."
Unfortunately, John came fifth and was stuck with a toaster.
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Emperor
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 01:38 |
ivan_2068 wrote:
There's such a large catalogue of excellent conceptual albums that I wouldn't vote for any of the two mentioned.
- The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
- 666
- Quadrophenia
- Tales of Mystery and Imagination
- Spartacus
- The War of the Worlds
- Six Wives of Henry the VIII
- Pictures at an Exhibition
- Darwin! (Banco del Mutuo Soccorso)
- Thick as a Brick
- Tales from Topographic Oceans
- Revolutions (Magenta)
- Illusions on a Double Dimple
- Dark Side of the Moon (Well, semi conceptual at least)
- The Wall
- I Robot
- Heaven & Hell (Vangelis)
- Myths and Legends of King Arthur...
- Peter & The Wolf (Brand X plus Bruford, Eno, etc)
- Days of Futire Passed
IMHO the two mentioned are in a minor league.
Iván
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What about Jesus Christ Superstar, Tommy and A Passion Play?
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I Prophesy Disaster...
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Emperor
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 01:36 |
Among those two I've voted for Scenes - really great album! (The only great album by DT though... IMO).
Operation is also delicious
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I Prophesy Disaster...
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: March 16 2005 at 15:59 |
There's such a large catalogue of excellent conceptual albums that I wouldn't vote for any of the two mentioned.
- The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
- 666
- Quadrophenia
- Tales of Mystery and Imagination
- Spartacus
- The War of the Worlds
- Six Wives of Henry the VIII
- Pictures at an Exhibition
- Darwin! (Banco del Mutuo Soccorso)
- Thick as a Brick
- Tales from Topographic Oceans
- Revolutions (Magenta)
- Illusions on a Double Dimple
- Dark Side of the Moon (Well, semi conceptual at least)
- The Wall
- I Robot
- Heaven & Hell (Vangelis)
- Myths and Legends of King Arthur...
- Peter & The Wolf (Brand X plus Bruford, Eno, etc)
- Days of Futire Passed
IMHO the two mentioned are in a minor league.
Iván
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Miaugion
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Posted: March 16 2005 at 15:01 |
"Operation: Mindcrime" for me, please - as "Scenes from a Memory" is the biggest heap of spinach Dream Theater have ever recorded. It's just that: an overrated, pretentious, derivative piece of stagnation featuring bits of old DT, Savatage, U2, Kansas, Frank Zappa, Rush, Roger Waters, annoying lyrics and a schmaltzy MOR singer. Thank God they found their energy again and unleashed that fine "Train of Thought" album (derivative as well but ... meaty!).
- Apart from that: Misplaced Childhood of course. And The Wall. And DSOTM and Clutching at Straws (are they concept albums?)
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Pixel Pirate
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Posted: March 16 2005 at 14:22 |
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In all fairness to Queensryche, "Operation Mindcrime" also tells a story,it's definitely a concept album,albeit a bloody awful one.
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Odi profanum vulgus et arceo.
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arkitek
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Posted: March 16 2005 at 13:49 |
Swinton MCR
A Concept album (in this context) is a CD/Album where all the tracks are telling a story...
after hearing this i know wot it is so i voted DT 
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Cluster One
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Posted: March 16 2005 at 13:49 |
"The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" is the mother of all concept albums.
I passed on voting in the poll 
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Marmalade...I like marmalade.
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video vertigo
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Posted: March 16 2005 at 13:44 |
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2112 is a great one. how about The Wall? Marbles is an album I'd consider a concept album that I enjoy
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"The rock and roll business is pretty absurd, but the world of serious music is much worse." - Zappa
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Pixel Pirate
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Posted: March 16 2005 at 13:19 |
"Subterranea" above and beyond any other. 
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Swinton MCR
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Posted: March 16 2005 at 13:17 |
You're wrong... (AS USUAL)
A Concept album (in this context) is a CD/Album where all the tracks are telling a story...
Thus Scenes......
In this vein and in this context (You are usually slow to pick up "Context").....
The Lamb......
Tales from......
Subterranea -
AND DON'T ARGUE JUST FOR THE FECKING REASON THAT IT WAS LINDA WHO MADE TH INITIAL - OUT OF CONTEXT GAFFE..................
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Posted: March 16 2005 at 12:58 |
Metropoliswrote:
You wouldn't care to enlighten us as to what the concept is would you?
Both 'Close to the edge' & 'Tales from topographic oceans' are linked to each other & are both Concept albums.
Best explination your gonna get cos you'll get no sence from the musicians
You asked for this so get ready.
http://www.yhwh.com/ctte.htm
Edited by Karnevil9
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Possessed
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Posted: March 16 2005 at 12:46 |
Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway for prog.
The Who - Tommy for rock.
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Metropolis
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Posted: March 16 2005 at 12:38 |
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You wouldn't care to enlighten us as to what the concept is would you?
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We Lost the Skyline............
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Posted: March 16 2005 at 12:36 |
Swinton MCR wrote:
Close to the Edge isn't a concept album - the tracks aren't linked ??? - They dont tell a story...etc !!!
Thus "The Lamb" or "Tales" or "Subterranea"
Sorry Mr argue the toss Swinton...But you'll find 'Close' is classed as a concept album no matter what you think & i'll stick my neck out & say Yes were the band that defined the meaning of concept album.
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Swinton MCR
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Posted: March 16 2005 at 12:31 |
Close to the Edge isn't a concept album - the tracks aren't linked ??? - They dont tell a story...etc !!!
Thus "The Lamb" or "Tales" or "Subterranea"
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Posted: March 16 2005 at 12:09 |
I think you'll find 'Close to the edge possibly one of the greatest concept albums of all time..
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sigod
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Posted: March 16 2005 at 12:06 |
The thought of listening to Queensryche makes my toes curl. 
I'd rather lick the floor of an abattoir.
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- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill
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