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Joren
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Posted: February 28 2005 at 13:08 |
gdub411 wrote:
1. Saga
2. Tangerine Dream..way over-rated
3. Styx
4. Yes...I do not get the facination with these guys
5. Captain Beefheart...just too much for me to handle there.
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that it's too much to handle for you, that means Captain Beefheart is one of the worst prog bands? ... that's just stupid
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Dick Heath
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Location: England
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Points: 12818
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Posted: February 28 2005 at 12:56 |
Vibrationbaby wrote:
lucas wrote:
My 10 worst prog artists :
Frank Zappa
Gentle giant
Mostly autumn (where is the link with prog ?)
Karnataka (very far from the lush music of Clannad or Iona)
The tangent / Karmakanic
Soft Machine
Satellite
Lizard
Anglagard
Sinkadus
| What! Gentle Giant one of the worst prog artists. I think I am going to have to sit this one out. Gentle Giant? What kind of drugs are you on Lucas? |

Reed you noticed the folkie, Fairport Convention cover featured prominently there - suggests Lucas might have found his way on to the wrong discussion group.....................
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Vibrationbaby
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Joined: February 13 2004
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Posted: February 28 2005 at 12:45 |
lucas wrote:
My 10 worst prog artists :
Frank Zappa
Gentle giant
Mostly autumn (where is the link with prog ?)
Karnataka (very far from the lush music of Clannad or Iona)
The tangent / Karmakanic
Soft Machine
Satellite
Lizard
Anglagard
Sinkadus
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What! Gentle Giant one of the worst prog artists. I think I am going to have to sit this one out.  Gentle Giant? What kind of drugs are you on Lucas?
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greenback
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Posted: February 28 2005 at 12:24 |
first of all, i must say this exercise is very representative of our personality!
second of all, i was right: "for every band, there is at least one hater!" Should i rectify: "for every record...."
finally, i've just learned much more about you in this thread than any other time! IT IS YOUR SIGNATURE!
and Swinton, man, we have many points in common: you hate VDGG, godspeed and mars volta, and you like many bands i like!! however, there are some excellent avant garde stuff: i recommend you univers zero: i think you should like it!
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[HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!>
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richardh
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Joined: February 18 2004
Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: February 28 2005 at 12:18 |
Reed Lover wrote:
RichardH:
It is a testimony to the eclectic nature of Progressive Rock that some of the "big-hitters" are disliked by many of the members.It is a matter of taste.Why should it be unacceptable to dislike Rush,ELP and Genesis,but OK to hate Dream Theater,Triumvirat and Amon Duul?

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I'll take your word for that Reed ,but I don't understand it,even on the issue of taste.To me it's like claiming to be a fan of football and then claiming that Man U,Chelsea and Arsenal are rubbish.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: February 28 2005 at 11:32 |
This is funny. Wakeman, Jethro Tull, Genesis, Yes, among the worst artist? I don't understand a thing. Its ok to dislike them, but deni its musical quality is outreogeous. But since everybody is entitled to an opinion, here I go: |
I agree with Mirco, one thing is not to like ELP, Genesis or Yes, but not recognizing their quaslity is incredible IMO.
Iván
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lucas
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Posted: February 28 2005 at 10:42 |
My 10 worst prog artists :
Frank Zappa
Gentle giant
Mostly autumn (where is the link with prog ?)
Karnataka (very far from the lush music of Clannad or Iona)
The tangent / Karmakanic
Soft Machine
Satellite
Lizard
Anglagard
Sinkadus
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Swinton MCR
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Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: February 28 2005 at 09:18 |
I haven't heard Saga for a long while.....I used to like it when in my teens - I may get around to listening to it - But I have a problem at the moment - trying to sample as many prog artists as possible -thus I spend all my time listening to new things !
Warning - That Mars Volta new CD - The first two tracks were so weird I had to listen to some Classical music to re-assure my brain that I hadn't developed tinitus.....How naybody can enjoy such noise is worrying - I'm definately keeping the CD handy though - to frighten my wife/kids with when they peck-my-head......
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Radioactive Toy
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Posted: February 28 2005 at 08:38 |
Swinton MCR wrote:
Radioactive - Your dislike covers a whole range of music there !
Does all DT, ELP, Porcupine, Saga, Marillion deserve your disdain - In my list I Have stated that the dischord of Bands like VDGG tends to put-me off, I am not ELP's biggest fan but they have produced some top-notch prog moments non-the-less ! |
You're right.. And elp.. yes they do!.. but really not for me!..
steve wilson? please.. he's just making money.. not music!
dream theatre? look at me.. playing guitar like no-one has ever done before!!!! (music??)
saga + marillion? not bad .. Just not an personal fav... I guess
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threefates
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Posted: February 28 2005 at 08:34 |
Trouserpress wrote:
richardh wrote:
Trouserpress wrote:
1. ELP (So much music, so little worth listening to) 2. Rush (Just SHUT UP ALREADY!) 3. Dream Theatre (Well, I just don't dig prog metal that isn't PoS really) 4. Glass Hammer (Pure unadulterated CHEESE) 5. Genesis (Quite simply, o-v-e-r-r-a-t-e-d)
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Although I agree with Dream Theater,to include ELP,Genesis and Rush is laughable.Why do you bother even coming here?
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Because I am a huge fan of progressive rock, maybe?
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Then evidently you have your own definition of what prog rock is!! 
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THIS IS ELP
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Swinton MCR
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Posted: February 28 2005 at 08:19 |
Radioactive - Your dislike covers a whole range of music there !
Does all DT, ELP, Porcupine, Saga, Marillion deserve your disdain - In my list I Have stated that the dischord of Bands like VDGG tends to put-me off, I am not ELP's biggest fan but they have produced some top-notch prog moments non-the-less !
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Radioactive Toy
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Posted: February 28 2005 at 08:10 |
1. dream theatre (get lost!!!!) 2. elp (hurting my ears isn't cool!) 3. porcupine tree (quasi inspired pop) 4. (saga) made an little edit here.. replacing this with star one+ayeron of that arjan luccasen.. makes me ashamed to be dutch! 5. marillion (I HATE the 80ies!)
PLEASE please be kind after reading my opinions 
Edited by Radioactive Toy
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Mategra
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Posted: February 28 2005 at 08:02 |
Swinton MCR wrote:
Purely subjective of course - some people list Rush/Genesis/Yes/ELP/IQ/Dream Theater...Now that is CRAAZEEE - Coz these bands must have done material that appeals to almost any prog-fan because they are so main-stream....
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Genesis, Yes and, to some extent, ELP do appeal to me.
Rush, IQ and DT do not appeal to me.
Main-stream? I don't think it's the right word. But to my ears Rush and DT play generic and derivative hard-rock/heavy metal with some nods towards prog/art rock (with annoying vocals to boot). The same goes for mostly all prog metal bands. And IQ's music and similar neo-prog (Marillion and It Bites are exceptions) just doesn't grab at all (actually, I think that kind of music is pretty annoying).
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The Hemulen
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Posted: February 28 2005 at 07:04 |
Swinton MCR wrote:
Purely subjective of course - some people list Rush/Genesis/Yes/ELP/IQ/Dream Theater...Now that is CRAAZEEE - Coz these bands must have done material that appeals to almost any prog-fan because they are so main-stream....
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But that's the whole point, Swinton! A lot of prog fans (myself included) love prog because it's a way of ESCAPING mainstream music. I never really cared about music until I discovered prog, and the reason was that I find mainstream music extremely boring. Rush, Genesis, ELP, etc don't really appeal to me for that very reason. There's nothing exciting about them. Personally, I'm dismayed to see the likes of Magma, VDGG and Thinking Plague being listed as they're the kind of groups that hold interest for me (though they're all quite 'dark' in their sound, and I should point out that I don't just listen to 'dark' music - I'm a huge Canterbury fan, for example). So yes, I'm rambling, but my point is this - not everyone wants simple, mainstream music. This is why progressive music can be so wonderful.
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Swinton MCR
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Posted: February 28 2005 at 06:56 |
- VDGG
- The Mars Volta
- Godspeed You
- StarCastle
- Asia
I'm not a fan of "avant-guard" prog - thus the first THREE !
Purely subjective of course - some people list Rush/Genesis/Yes/ELP/IQ/Dream Theater...Now that is CRAAZEEE - Coz these bands must have done material that appeals to almost any prog-fan because they are so main-stream....
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mirco
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Posted: February 28 2005 at 06:46 |
This is funny. Wakeman, Jethro Tull, Genesis, Yes, among the worst artist? I don't understand a thing. Its ok to dislike them, but deni its musical quality is outreogeous. But since everybody is entitled to an opinion, here I go:
-Stix
-Asia
-Mostly of neo.prog / prog metal.
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Please forgive me for my crappy english!
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Beau Heem
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Location: Finland
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Posted: February 28 2005 at 06:23 |
Ah...
Such a nice thread...
There is only so much one can dislike, eh?
Too bad that we are only asked for five - I could probably list up to
130 prog artists/bands that I have a distinct dislike for...
hmm... 5 it is.
Dream Theater
Druid
Symphony X
Thinking Plague
Asia
From those five, i think that Thinking Plague is the only goup which has its moments...
Cheers
-Beau
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--No enemy but time--
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Pixel Pirate
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Joined: September 11 2004
Location: Norway
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Posted: February 28 2005 at 06:19 |
gdub411 wrote:
1. Saga
2. Tangerine Dream..way over-rated
3. Styx
4. Yes...I do not get the facination with these guys
5. Captain Beefheart...just too much for me to handle there.
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You've hit the nail on the head with Tangerine Dream,Gdub. A very over-rated band indeed.

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Odi profanum vulgus et arceo.
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Blacksword
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Joined: June 22 2004
Location: England
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Posted: February 28 2005 at 05:25 |
Couldn't say which I think are the worst prog artists. There are tracks by numerous prog artists that I dont like, but because I have disliked them so much I have never gone on to investigate anything else they did. For this reason I cant make a sound judgement.
I like prog rock to be played well, produced well and to meet the high standards set by many of the old masters. If it doesn't grab me in these respects very early on, I tend to give up on the artist in question.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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The Hemulen
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Joined: July 31 2004
Location: UK
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Posted: February 28 2005 at 04:51 |
richardh wrote:
Trouserpress wrote:
1. ELP (So much music, so little worth listening to) 2. Rush (Just SHUT UP ALREADY!) 3. Dream Theatre (Well, I just don't dig prog metal that isn't PoS really) 4. Glass Hammer (Pure unadulterated CHEESE) 5. Genesis (Quite simply, o-v-e-r-r-a-t-e-d)
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Although I agree with Dream Theater,to include ELP,Genesis and Rush is laughable.Why do you bother even coming here?
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Because I am a huge fan of progressive rock, maybe?
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