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Marcelo
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Topic: Prog lifestyle Posted: April 17 2004 at 12:27 |
If you go to a punk music festival, you'll surely see strange hairs and clothes, piercings, etc. The same thing with gothic, heavy metal, etc... And what about prog lovers? Is there any way to categorize our lifestyle? Are we more serious or introspective, is our behaviour ever right, are we most refined, are we bored people, are we living in the past, are we CRAZY???
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: April 17 2004 at 12:44 |
I would think that in general we are better educated and open minded about things in than your average top forty music listener. And, as I've mentioned before and I speak for myself here I am proudly crazy. My wife, her friends, my friends, relatives as well as my dogs think I am stark raving mad. I mean how many people out there actually love Beaubourg by Vangelis?
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lucas
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Posted: April 17 2004 at 13:33 |
Vibrationbaby wrote:
I mean how many people out there actually love Beaubourg by Vangelis? |
Many non-prog fans listen to Vangelis.
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: April 17 2004 at 13:36 |
But not to Beaubourg.
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elfangio
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Posted: April 17 2004 at 13:52 |
Vibrationbaby wrote:
I would think that in general we are better educated and open minded about things in than your average top forty music listener. |
Well, I'm sorry to say that, but the average prog fan doesn't seem to be really open-minded, at least musically. About being better educated, it may be true though, although I think it also has to do with being a musician sometimes. Many musicians are attracted by the prog genre, especially the technical subgenres (prog metal, fusionish prog, etc...)
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Gaston
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Posted: April 17 2004 at 14:23 |
elfangio wrote:
Vibrationbaby wrote:
I would think that in general we are better educated and open minded about things in than your average top forty music listener. | Well, I'm sorry to say that, but the average prog fan doesn't seem to be really open-minded, at least musically. About being better educated, it may be true though, although I think it also has to do with being a musician sometimes. Many musicians are attracted by the prog genre, especially the technical subgenres (prog metal, fusionish prog, etc...) |
I think prog fans are less open minded towards music because a lot of that music sucks. Fair enough?
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It's the same guy. Great minds think alike.
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Posted: April 17 2004 at 22:34 |
Gaston wrote:
elfangio wrote:
Vibrationbaby wrote:
I would think that in general we are better educated and open minded about things in than your average top forty music listener. | Well, I'm sorry to say that, but the average prog fan doesn't seem to be really open-minded, at least musically. About being better educated, it may be true though, although I think it also has to do with being a musician sometimes. Many musicians are attracted by the prog genre, especially the technical subgenres (prog metal, fusionish prog, etc...) |
I think prog fans are less open minded towards music because a lot of that music sucks. Fair enough?
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This is exactly what he was talking about.
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Gaston
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Posted: April 18 2004 at 04:14 |
Useful_Idiot wrote:
Gaston wrote:
elfangio wrote:
Vibrationbaby wrote:
I would think that in general we are better educated and open minded about things in than your average top forty music listener. | Well, I'm sorry to say that, but the average prog fan doesn't seem to be really open-minded, at least musically. About being better educated, it may be true though, although I think it also has to do with being a musician sometimes. Many musicians are attracted by the prog genre, especially the technical subgenres (prog metal, fusionish prog, etc...) |
I think prog fans are less open minded towards music because a lot of that music sucks. Fair enough?
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This is exactly what he was talking about.
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LOL. Yep.
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It's the same guy. Great minds think alike.
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raggy
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Posted: April 18 2004 at 04:23 |
When i first heard the band name IQ I just had to cringe. "What a bunch of pretentious, pseudo-intellectual t**sers", I thought, "Do these guys really play music designed to appeal exclusively to sad self-congratulatory Mensa members?"
The answer is yes I'm afraid, and it sucks.
Music is the bridge that links physics and emotion, bypassing intellect and speaking directly to "the soul", (what ever that is!). A baby 'knows' that E minor sounds 'serious' and C major, 'light hearted', (just watch their faces).
I know many a free-thinking academic who would sooner go deaf than sit through a Wagner recital, yet will happily hum along to the latest 3 minute pop sensation. Great music (and the appreciation thereof) is entirely subjective and cannot be intellectually quantified in any universally satisfactory way.
So stop stroking your egos fellow progfans, being able to listen to Tales From Topographic Oceans all the way through doesn't make you Stephen Hawking you know?!
Discuss.
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richardh
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Posted: April 18 2004 at 06:20 |
Vibrationbaby wrote:
I would think that in general we are better educated and open minded about things in than your average top forty music listener. And, as I've mentioned before and I speak for myself here I am proudly crazy. My wife, her friends, my friends, relatives as well as my dogs think I am stark raving mad. I mean how many people out there actually love Beaubourg by Vangelis? |
I'd be more concerned for your sanity if you loved 'Invisible Connections' although 'Beauborg' is a bit strange admittedly!
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Velvetclown
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Posted: April 18 2004 at 09:59 |
Well we donīt dress in a collective way like the punks and others, so we are not very lucrative for the trendmongers.I think many of us are individual non-conforming people who demand something more out of life than what is usually on offer.
Are we crazy ?..Well I know I am !
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Posted: April 18 2004 at 13:18 |
raggy wrote:
Music is the bridge that links physics and emotion, bypassing intellect and speaking directly to "the soul", (what ever that is!). A baby 'knows' that E minor sounds 'serious' and C major, 'light hearted', (just watch their faces).
I know many a free-thinking academic who would sooner go deaf than sit through a Wagner recital, yet will happily hum along to the latest 3 minute pop sensation. Great music (and the appreciation thereof) is entirely subjective and cannot be intellectually quantified in any universally satisfactory way.
So stop stroking your egos fellow progfans, being able to listen to Tales From Topographic Oceans all the way through doesn't make you Stephen Hawking you know?
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Ya I see your point, because no matter how much some people may deny it, they still like listening to some of the cheesy pop songs. Or just listen to simple songs that doesn't take as much of your brain power to notice the music, all you have to do is listen and enjoy mostly. Which I think is what draws most people to prog, or atleast me. The only reason why I like prog is because I can appreciate the musicianship in the music on a platform such as rock, which I like (although it wouldn't stop me from appreciating some classical or jazz music).
I am a fairly smart person and intelligent person, yet I'm humble about it. Although I would yell at the person who says that Jay-Z or Christina Aguilera are the best musicians in the world or praise top 40 radio for that instance.
What I could also say about people who like prog is mainly that we enjoy having a full and rich experience when we listen to the music, and everything we observe by listening to it is just awesome, because the musicians have shown their best talents in the music, instead of most rock bands these days just jamming their power chords.
As for an appearance/life style. There really isn't any code of ethics for us or clothes we should wear. But I think we got the right idea that it's more about the way of thinking that suits the fan of progressive rock.
Though I think it is better that we appreciate prog for the music less than the lifestyle (which luckily isn't there), because in forms of music like punk and rap, it's more about how you look an your attitude than your appreciation for the artform, which is the point of being a fan of a style of music.
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Posted: April 18 2004 at 15:53 |
I'm crazy
so, what do y'all look like?
I'm not wearing a skirt...
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Hammar
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Posted: April 19 2004 at 12:48 |
It might be a coincidence, but all the people I know who are into prog are generally intelligent or they have a high level of academic background. A few of them have no education but are still very intellectual and attend the "school of life". What they all have in common is that they all wear ordinary (and rather boring) clothes, including myself.
Velvetclown and Joren: Then we are three.....
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: April 19 2004 at 14:59 |
richardh wrote:
Vibrationbaby wrote:
I would think that in general we are better educated and open minded about things in than your average top forty music listener. And, as I've mentioned before and I speak for myself here I am proudly crazy. My wife, her friends, my friends, relatives as well as my dogs think I am stark raving mad. I mean how many people out there actually love Beaubourg by Vangelis? |
I'd be more concerned for your sanity if you loved 'Invisible Connections' although 'Beauborg' is a bit strange admittedly!
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I also like that one too! Especially the Deutsch Grammophone cover!
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Velvetclown
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Posted: April 20 2004 at 03:06 |
Iīve got a grey shirt, grey pants and grey hair.
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progchain
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Posted: April 20 2004 at 12:50 |
I usually go to work with 21th schizoid man t-shirt...!
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: April 20 2004 at 12:55 |
Velvetclown wrote:
Well we donīt dress in a collective way like the punks and others, so we are not very lucrative for the trendmongers.I think many of us are individual non-conforming people who demand something more out of life than what is usually on offer.
Are we crazy ?..Well I know I am !
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Well put there velvetclown
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Alexander
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Posted: April 20 2004 at 21:33 |
Hammer wrote:
It might be a coincidence, but all the people I know who are into prog are generally intelligent or they have a high level of academic background. A few of them have no education but are still very intellectual and attend the "school of life". What they all have in common is that they all wear ordinary (and rather boring) clothes, including myself. |
Very true. My academic backround is fairly good with the exception of math!
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Posted: April 20 2004 at 21:35 |
Velvetclown wrote:
Iīve got a grey shirt, grey pants and grey hair.
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Me too, 'cept for the hair, of course.
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