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Poll Question: ...Should they be outlawed?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2005 at 23:51
Originally posted by greenback greenback wrote:

Allan holdsorth's IOU album has a NECESSARY drum solo by gary husband!
How right you are.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 03 2005 at 15:33
I played drums for a number of years and hated doing solos. I would rather have the bass player doing something with me at the same time. I don't know why there was always some egghead in the audience shouting out: Drum solo! Drum solo! You can be much more creative by playing off the other musicians. I have met quite a few other drummers who sort of feel the same way. One of the goofiest and most annoying drum solos I've ever heard is that Rythm Method by Niel Peart.Can't the guy come up with something new if he absolutely has to do a drum solo during every freakin' Rush show. And another thing I can't believe is that it appears on 2 or 3 of the too many Rush live albums, I'd  rather listen to a Mariah track. Honestly. One of my favourite rock drummers was Kieth Moon who was always accenting and playing off both Towshend and Entwhistle. He didn't just keep a beat he was in his own dimension when he was behind the kit.   Probably the two worst drum solos I've ever heard were from Peter Criss of Kiss on Kiss Alive and Bill Ward on Rat Salad from Paranoid. Bill just sounded like he was on drugs and Peter was just a crappy drummer. Yes, I know I know this thread is supposed to only be about studio drum solos. Pierre van der Linden's solos from Focus III ( I always skip over it ) and the first Trace album are totally unecessary and boring while his drum fills on Hocus Pocus are some of the most exciting in rock. As a listener or even a player drum solos are just about as boring as a 10 minute tuba solo save for the odd exception.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 03 2005 at 15:45
Originally posted by Possessed Possessed wrote:

Originally posted by alan_pfeifer alan_pfeifer wrote:

 

And I voted yes. The drums can solo, as long as it helps the song. (Sound Chaser, anyone?)

Actually it is a bit confusing. If you vote Non = No, it means that drum solos shouldn't be outlawed.

If you voted Oui = Yes, it means that drum solos should be outlawed.

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Crap.   Got me there!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 03 2005 at 16:06

Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

Phil Ehart's on Incomudro - Hymn To The Atman works well.

This might be because Kansas is lacking in tons of live releases. 

 

I can't remember a Kansas concert (I have been to several since 1975) where Phil Erhart ever did a drum solo period. 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2005 at 18:31

There is no need for time-filling on a prog-album. Otherwise I feel that a drumsolo can improve a song on a live album.

So please no "Moby Dick"'s

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2005 at 18:49
I love a nice studio drum solo. Tank for a start is one of my favourites and thers a great solo on Green by Steve Hillage. Even Gentle Giant have some great studio solos, so please don't put them in Room 101!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2005 at 23:47
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2005 at 18:07

If it adds to the song. then go ahead! Billy Cobham is mostly always doing solos anyways

Listen to his album Spectrum! Amazing drumming!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2005 at 23:46
so long as they are tasteful, why not

too often they suck

Tank on ELP is one of the few that works.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 04 2005 at 01:18
Dharma For One is cool.  Zappa has a lot of cool solos on his major releases.  Then again, I'm a drummer and I love it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 04 2005 at 13:36
I like some drum solos from studio albums. Two that spring to mind are the one in Thick as a Brick and the one in Tusk by Fleetwood Mac (short but sweet). Moby Dick is OK, but drags on a bit.

What I don't like, though, is live drum solos that last more than 2-3 minutes. The live version of Moby Dick is one of the most boring things I've ever heard.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 04 2005 at 15:08
Even though I am a drummer, drum solos can be boring for me (especially when they go over the 10-minute mark). Still, i love some drum solos, but not all i've heard.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2005 at 03:44
Drum soloing can be musical though - check out Pierre Moerlin's work on Gong's "Gazeuze"; always spot on, always entertaining, never boring.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2005 at 08:46

Why not? It´s up to the bands to offer something to the listener and make it work. Shows the difference how good/creative a drummer is. And in a studio mindless drumming gets more obvious than in a live concert - maybe that´s the reason why there aren´t many studio drum solos.

Two good examples:
Birth Control: Back From Hell + Gamma Ray

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2005 at 21:42
I was bored of Clive Bunker's(JT) solo on 'Dharma for one' but i loved it on the Isle of Wight JT DVD!Another studio solo that comes in to my mind is Jay Dorfman's(Sweet smoke) on Silly Sally and that was a good one! So ,i think that it depends on the solo and how nice the solo matches with the rest of the  music!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2005 at 00:51

Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Drum soloing can be musical though - check out Pierre Moerlin's work on Gong's "Gazeuze"; always spot on, always entertaining, never boring.

Pierre Moerlin's Gong was pretty boring in itself, but their is some good percussion work there

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2005 at 15:57
I have a question: How do you find Bill Bruford's in the song Perpetual Change of the Yessongs album? I find it really really bad, or at least there is absolute nothing special about it . (Even though it's played by Bill Bruford in one of the best albums ever).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2005 at 18:48
I think it depend on the album, the song and the band. Drum solos I herd in some Focus songs are pretty cool, and they fit the music well. It would not be the case with Genesis...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2005 at 18:59
Drum solos on studio albums don't work.
You wouldn't listen to 20 min Moby Dick drum solo by Bonzo recorded in a studio, would if it was live.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2005 at 05:45

I THINK :

STUDIO SOLOS : NO

DRUM FILLS : HELL YEAH

LIVE SOLOS : YES AS LONG AS THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEEN, NOT JUST SKIN TORTRURING WITHOUT A REASON.

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