Petition to take Radiohead off Progarchi

And the daft thread of the year award goes to..

oh no.... 51/49 I just voted

again.

the polls are FLAWED!

i think we have learnt that polls dont make a difference. 72% of the people here already voted em not to be added to the archives, and look what happened. so i doubt this one will make a blind bit of difference

I know it's probably useless but I'm with you Frenchie, at least gaveny opinion.}

Iván

There's plenty of "marginal" bands on the archives, what's the big deal? If you don't want to review their albums, don't.

I'm with you Cert, and with all who consider Radiohead prog for that matter.

My musical knowledge is insufficient to explain why they are prog in my book, but they where catagorised as such (By me) ever since OK Computer.

The structure of the songs, the structure throughout the albums (OKC, KIDA, HTTT), the level of symphonising/minimalistic and the transferance in the songs between different structures, the way they use bridges and all make them prog IMO (not a good founded argument maybe, but it's the best I can do).

It is true that they originated from alternative rock, with hints of garage-rock and pop-influences (Nirvana, Oasis, Kula shaker, Live, etc spring to mind). And I don't know how they consider themselves.

Can anyone please explain me why Paranoid Android isn't a prog-song. I know in order to be included on the archives the majority of their output has to be considered prog, and it has to be made in a consious way etc. I think Radiohead has proven those things in the past.

 

To all the Nay-sayers, you're right on the point that the danger excists that we'd be stretching the meaning of prog when we include all borderline cases, but we are the ones that keep asking "can we include *artist-name* in the archives, for we think they are prog". This forum is the best place to discuss these kind of things, and I think M@x and Ron are very capable of making the final discission in these matters.

 

For the ones who feel Radiohead was moved forward on the list of bands to include, that's probably true, but it is easier to deside on known bands, then it is to decide on more obscure bands, where the moderators first have to learn more about the bands in order to make a justifiable decision in including or not including the suggested bands.

 (though it isn't always an advantage to be a well known band, else Queen was included ages ago, their popular output made it difficult to convince people of their initial proginfluenced output)

A lot to read, and maybe it is all irrelevant, either way I've killed another useless quarter

Bit of an over- reaction all this.

I'm with Cert

and regarding admin 'They have no need to justify their decisions'

the musical box wrote: Certif1ed wrote: OK Computer IS a prog album as much as Dark Side of the Moon. The Admins agree. Leave it alone and shut the f**k up.       Please? Accualy Cert, the reason the admins added them is because theyre sick of people like you f**king complaining about them " being prog" all the time. Just because you like something DOES NOT make it prog....God... If they were prog they would have been added ages ago! I think we should also add Primus and Steely Dan too! What a great idea! The fact is, if the admins TRULY believed Radiohead were prog, they would have added them long ago and wouldnt have had to put a justification for why they're on the site!!! Also, by adding Radiohead, the inclusion of countless other non/boarderline prog is inevitable and the site will eventually crumble.....good job guys!

Talk about a conspiracy theory!

I'm sure the Admins consider every addition very carefully in order to maintain the right level of integrity, hence some bands take longer to consider than others. They have no need to justify their decisions - although many of them seem questionable to many members of this site. We are free to discuss those decisions here in the forums though - that is one of the purposes of them.

Just because I make strong arguments, it does not follow that I "complain about them " being prog" all the time." - indeed, I do not - I just take that side of the fence in ANY discussion about them because that's what I think - and I'm entitled to my opinion as much as anyone. I'm sure that if you could find some strong argument as to why either Primus or Steely Dan should be included, and the subject came up often enough, that it would be noted. Just saying you think they are prog is not a very convincing argument - anyone can say stuff like that.

The "complaints" have all come from the anti-brigade, but so far there has been no reasoning or anything persuasive other than the extreme reactions to the "controversial" decision.

I find it very interesting that I have managed to provide strong arguments about the music itself, while the best the anti side can come up with is either "Not prog" or "Indie" - neither of which are true, IMO, and both of which are very weak and provide no reasoning whatsoever.

Please take a little time to read my review to see what I think are pretty concrete facts - and feel free to come back and discuss the salient points.

Please also note that I earlier "attacked" the post, NOT the person making the post

Finally:

Please could you stop the noise, I'm trying to get some rest
From all the unborn chicken voices in my head
What's that...? (I may be paranoid, but not an android)
What's that...? (I may be paranoid, but not an android)

When I am king, you will be first against the wall
With your opinion which is of no consequence at all
What's that...? (I may be paranoid, but no android)
What's that...? (I may be paranoid, but no android)

aqualung28 wrote: I say we can leave it if we never add a band like them again. So, on that note, I think we should add......well, you know what I want added Fantomas

what's next? Robbin williams

Certif1ed wrote: OK Computer IS a prog album as much as Dark Side of the Moon. The Admins agree. Leave it alone and shut the f**k up.       Please?

Accualy Cert, the reason the admins added them is because theyre sick of people like you f**king complaining about them " being prog" all the time. Just because you like something DOES NOT make it prog....God... If they were prog they would have been added ages ago! I think we should also add Primus and Steely Dan too! What a great idea! The fact is, if the admins TRULY believed Radiohead were prog, they would have added them long ago and wouldnt have had to put a justification for why they're on the site!!! Also, by adding Radiohead, the inclusion of countless other non/boarderline prog is inevitable and the site will eventually crumble.....good job guys!