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    Posted: June 16 2005 at 07:23
Blue Oyster Cult
OK, the majority of the known universe consider them to be an out and out rock band, with not much in the way of prog tendencies.  However, last year they played The Brook club in Southampton, UK and the promoter (in his wisdom) described BOC on the flyer as "mystical progressive rock".  Is there any justification for this?  Possibly.  Tracks like "Veterans of the Psychic Wars", "The Great Sun Jester" and "Black Blade" not only were co-written by Michael "Hawkwind" Moorcock but there are time signature changes all over the place.  Tracks like "Seven Screaming Dizbusters", "Astronomy" and "Golden Age of Leather" have prog leanings even though they are not.

Max Webster
If you're going to have Rush in the archive, you really need Max Webster too.  I've seen them described as Canada's only 70s prog rock band!!  (I'm sure there were others).  They shared a same producer as Rush (Terry Brown), recorded with Rush ("Battlescars"), toured with Rush extensively and in Kim Mitchell had a guitar player who's technique wouldn't be out of place in Gentle Giant or King Crimson.  Many of their songs are definitely not rock standard fare - Oh War, In Context of the Moon, Here Among The Cats, The Party, Toronto Tontos, etc. 

Has anyone else considered either of these bands to be more "prog" than not?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2005 at 12:57
And Nine Inch Nails as well, then! 
And above all, is punk
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2005 at 13:21

Originally posted by Fantômas Fantômas wrote:

And Nine Inch Nails as well, then! 

INDUSTRIAL is a seperate genre!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2005 at 13:48
Ah, Astronomy, fantastic song!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2005 at 03:03
I'm not so sure about BLue Oyster Cult, I don't know enough about MAx Webster to judge
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2005 at 08:53
NIN and Depeche Mode fit well into the evolution of
progressive rock where english progressive meets
german kosmiche around 1990. One veering in from
the art rock side on from the electronic side.
he he ho ho ha ha!

Of course I wouldnt know progressive rock if it
smacked me in the head!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2005 at 09:29
Yes, I do consider Blue Öyster Cult a little more progressive than other seventies hard rock bands I have heard. But can it be considered progressive rock? No.

Couldn't agree more on "Astronomy". It's one of my favourite tunes outside of progressive rock. Another my favourite BÖC tune is "Nosferatu". Ah, they had so many great songs...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2005 at 22:57

Cultosaurus Erectus was a very fine (dare I say it?) progressive album. "Black Blade" earns a place all its own in rock music. There seems to be a misconception on this website that a "progressive" piece cannot be loud, or, have any resemblance to a bold Rock sound whatsoever. I would hope that the webmasters will remember that without Rock, there can be no Progressive Rock.

 

 

 

 

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2005 at 00:59
BOC! BOC! BOC!

YES! They are mainly a hard rock band, but I think that there are enough progressive rock elements throughout almost all their albums that their inlclusion is highly warranted.Clap

As far as Max Webster, I am aware of the Rush connection, but unfortunately, I have never heard them.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2005 at 03:06

    To  be added or not to be added, ................

Blue Oyster Cult is a rock band, not to be mentioned here. But you'll never know, Meshuggah is here !!!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2005 at 05:27

M@X Webster?? Sure , he is prog!!!!! He owns the site!

As for the group, it definitely enters the Art Rock category , some of their tracks are proggish, and songwriting-wise they were a beefed up 10cc or Queen level energy. Classy stuff! Certainly art rock!!!

Saw them four or five times live at their height.

 

Shame they never got that famous. By the time they got exposition by collaborating with Rush, their best era was gone. Universal Juvenile was their worst album.

Max Webster has got some real classics nonetheless Hangover

High Class In Borrowed Shoes is a real classy affair with Oh War their tops.

Mutiny Up My Sleeve has The Party: Awesome!!!! Played at almost every party for years in Toronto.

A Million Vacation is slighly mellower but almost every track is a minor classic.

The live album is not bad but by U J album, the original line-up was breaking up and Kim Mitchell went solo after that and never came to knee height of the former group.

 

As far as Toronto groups , Triumph made some proggish albums until Allied Forces but certainly the first three albums had real gems.



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