the world just gets weirder

gdub411 wrote: but until then....Have at thee!!

Sorry, g-bub, but that particular portal is "exit only!"

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It is a good discusion.  Everything, every idea has merit. Everyone has merit. Certainly we cannot solve the debate because maybe there is no solution but maybe for a moment in time we came together as the world and helped each other to think. 

and that is not a bad thing.

 

This is a really cool place to be.

 

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Peter wrote: Garion81 wrote:   It is a good discusion.  Everything, every idea has merit. Everyone has merit. Certainly we cannot solve the debate because maybe there is no solution but maybe for a moment in time we came together as the world and helped each other to think.  and that is not a bad thing.   This is a really cool place to be.   Says you, you nucking futbar!

 

That would be me.

 

Peter wrote: Ain't beer grand? I love you guys! yer the bessht fuggin' guys in da world! yer my ONLY reel frens.... Hey, Carrion, stop lookin' at my wife! Why I otta....

Do your students get this much entertainment out of you?

All right I have had some vodka tonight (ran out of beer) But it

is now 12:08 am on the West Coast and your three hours ahead of me

So 

 

 

We're making the mistake of considering education as a source of learning, rather than day-care until children are old enough to enter the workforce.

Schools should be falling over themselves to teach Intelligent Design, because it continues to provide the child with an example of a central authority which should be obeyed...making it easier for the child to accept the submissive role they will assume under teachers, administration, bosses, religious leaders, law enforcement, financial institutions, and government.

On the other hand, Evolution's main contribution to society was to provide the strong a justification for inflicting misery on the weak. Where would our beloved corporate sharks be without it? Between Darwin and Nietzsche, the educated bully has a wealth of adaptable rationale for their behavior.

Two tastes that taste great together. Plus, the more the liberal media gets hysterical over one small town at war over Evolution, the less time it has to spend publicizing the gaping holes in Bush's revised "No Child left Behind" policy (tentatively renamed, "Every child left behind equally").

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gdub411 wrote: You need to lighten up James. Don't worry...Be Happy!!

You only see the negative side of me. I usually post only when I've got insomnia, so I'm already in a nasty frame of mind.

Geez, the two of us aren't doing much to dispel the geeky reputation of prog fans, are we? Shouldn't both of us be out killing brain cells or committing various sins?

I like that idea...the more I drink, the more likely it is that I'll get rid of all this useless knowledge.

Hehe, just remembered Steve Martin saying "You cooked her nines!" in The man with Two Brains.

But how do we know you're telling the truth? 

Joking aside though, I have a lot of respect for someone who's prepared to do that. I'm just glad I'm not going to get a job where people expect me to lie! (Well, apart from "Yes, that guitar solo just fits perfectly there!")

I missed all this!

Gdub-I suggest that as intelligent as you might be, you should not believe everything you see on the TV. All forms of media are manipulable.There is very little expressed in the Media that doesnt represent the writer's beliefs and influences.We tend to remember the sound-bites anyway.

The Mediterranean? My head is shaking now, in disbelief.

Every book I have read ( and I havent read them all) states that the Med "flooded" over 5 million years ago.There were no humans to witness this, let alone rationalise it as an act of God.
My take on this is that the Med has had many periods in Geological time when it has either flooded or dried, but none of these has been witnessed by anyone who could relate the story.

Anyway here is what the History Channel actually says:

Deluge

Deluge, in the Bible, the overwhelming flood that covered the earth and destroyed every living thing except the family of Noah and the creatures in his ark. Archaeology has yielded little trace of the biblical flood, but some oceanographers and geophysicists have speculated that the actual deluge occurred in the Black Sea region some 7,600 years ago, when rising sea levels in the Mediterranean (due to melting glaciers) flooded into the Black Sea and inundated the surrounding coast.

Many archaeologists and historians, however, do not believe that the inundation of the ancient Black Sea coast is the origin of the flood story, regarding the periodic flooding of the Tigris and Euphrates as a more likely model for the tale. Flood stories resembling the biblical story are found in the folklore of many races-Native Americans, Fiji Islanders, and Australian aborigines. The earliest known of these stories is Sumerian, one form being found in the record of Berossus (3d cent. B.C.), another on a tablet of the Gilgamesh epic of at least 2000 B.C.

So, Gdub,dont ever appear as a witness for me in a murder trial!

Creationism in schools:

Another interesting point, apart from the fact that thankfully I'm not the only one who gets over-wrought after too much alcochol, is that why should Biblical Creationism be presented as the only alternative to Evolution? What about other theories? I am not familiar with them, but how do American Indians describe creation or Aborigines or the Inuit. What about Moslems,Hindus, Buddhists? Should we teach all these because I'm damn sure they have these Religion V Evolution conflicts in other cultures.The Chinese have their own views.Ancient Romans, Greeks,Egyptians,Mesopotamians, Assyrians,Persians.
Why not cause utter chaos and present all these equally. Or we could just watch the History Channel!

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