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Originally posted by Rick1 Rick1 wrote:

Anything by 'Opeless', Rush's 70s output (they suddenly went OK in the early 80s) in fact, as soon as the word 'metal' enters the equation, I run a mile.


Hi,

Honestly, I do not have an issue with "metal" ... with one exception ... when it is just a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy kind of thing that just repeats the same thing over and over again. After a while it gets boring and mindless humanoid albino mashmusic for the vaped generation! (... not that we did not ingest anything in the early days ... !!!)
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I have tried and tried and tried

and now given up!
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Looking down PA's top 100, the only albums that I actively dislike are by Dream Theater, in particular Scenes From a Memory. I just don't get it. I'm not that familiar with Opeth, but what I have heard hasn't had me reaching for the 'off' switch.

Several people have mentioned Radiohead, and I'll admit that I have never made it all the way through OK Computer. For me they were briefly interesting circa Kid A/Amnesiac, but everything else either leaves me cold or I actively dislike it.
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Originally posted by essexboyinwales essexboyinwales wrote:

CTTE

I have tried and tried and tried

and now given up!


Hi,

A while back on PA there was an Admin that stated that it was all just pop music, and that none of it meant anything whatsoever.

I'm not going to be cynical enough to say that my generation was a bunch of stony idiots that didn't care, or give a damn, and there were many that tried HARD to elevate their music to a different level, even as far as the artistic and conceptual arts of the 20th century.

That it might have achieved this, is a topic for discussion, but in the end, the part that is scary is that we have come to be so dependent on folks that are not any better than you or I ... and we think their words are important and more valid than fried rice, or electric macaroni and cheese!

Now, sitting here and thinking that some of those albums are more important than the horrible translations of THE BOOK ... in their lyrics, is a bit too much and very silly, and while I am not going to state that it is all meaningless (that would reflect on us, btw!!!) ... there are times when you have to step back and look at things ... a bit more than you do!

After all, Mona Lisa is a bird brain ... and guess what? We're no better? Go ahead, and live by Jon or Ian or Bono, or anyone else ... you're just going to hit your head on many brick walls ... so in a sense, that Admin was right ... almost all of the stuff here is just pop music, and there is no reason to treat it any better than that!

But don't be silly and ignore that there are many pearls amidst all the swine ... and we're ignoring them for empty words and comments!
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^ Regarding Close to the Edge.

Originally posted by Moshkito Moshkito wrote:

A while back on PA there was an Admin that stated that it was all just pop music, and that none of it meant anything whatsoever.


Do you recall which Admin stated that?
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^ Regarding Close to the Edge.

Originally posted by Moshkito Moshkito wrote:

A while back on PA there was an Admin that stated that it was all just pop music, and that none of it meant anything whatsoever.


Do you recall which Admin stated that?


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Yes I do, and I will respect his comments to the end ... many times he posted things really well and detailed. Even as an "opponent" he deserves the respect!
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^ Regarding Close to the Edge.

Originally posted by Moshkito Moshkito wrote:

A while back on PA there was an Admin that stated that it was all just pop music, and that none of it meant anything whatsoever.


Do you recall which Admin stated that?


Hi,

Yes I do, and I will respect his comments to the end ... many times he posted things really well and detailed. Even as an "opponent" he deserves the respect!


As long as you have represented him accurately, I don't think he would mind you saying the name. Do you mean Dean? If you do, then I would think there would be very specific context to those statements that are important to take into consideration. The Special Collaborator Micky has also maybe made some similar comments... Both much missed by me, by the way. Context and accuracy matters, as well as evidence.

For myself, that is an album that I have struggled with (never been a favourite of mine). I have no issue with thinking of it as pop as in popular music rather than certain genre implications, but "just" pop would need clarification for me. As for "none of it meant anything anyway". I would imagine too that there would be a very specific context to that if he did say that. It sounds nihilistic to me taken on its own, or comparative/ relative. It matters to individuals, how much in the grand scheme of things I don't know.
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