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    Posted: 4 hours 27 minutes ago at 16:05
How about Mike Oldfield from Incantations to Platinum and his 80's albums? I'm sure he had many other dramatic leaps in his sound from one album to the next. Rick Wakeman should have some very notable changes of sound between some of his albums, going from prog rock (or at least rock) to solo piano or New Age.

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Within 5 years?

Jethro Tull's This Was (1968)

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Aqualung (1971), Thick as a Brick (1972), A Passion Play (1973)

They went from a pseudo-Cream-style blues rock band to a hard rock/folk/prog stadium chameleon monster.

Hell, one could say the approach of Stand Up (1969) was a radical departure from This Was.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by DoobieBrother6 DoobieBrother6 wrote:

Somebody help me here. Can this truly be the same band???

From the excellent first "Gravedigger" hard rock lp to the limp Kitaro/Yannish newage slobber-pap of "Journey".


I for one do not know who you're talking about.


The band is Janus, although I believe that Out of Time came out before Journey. that's huge gap between albums. Journey came out in 1991 and Gravedigger in 1972. Different times.


The OP said no albums with a gap longer than 5 years. It makes sense.

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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by DoobieBrother6 DoobieBrother6 wrote:

Somebody help me here. Can this truly be the same band???

From the excellent first "Gravedigger" hard rock lp to the limp Kitaro/Yannish newage slobber-pap of "Journey".


I for one do not know who you're talking about.


The band is Janus, although I believe that Out of Time came out before Journey. that's huge gap between albums. Journey came out in 1991 and Gravedigger in 1972. Different times.
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Originally posted by DoobieBrother6 DoobieBrother6 wrote:

Somebody help me here. Can this truly be the same band???

From the excellent first "Gravedigger" hard rock lp to the limp Kitaro/Yannish newage slobber-pap of "Journey".


I for one do not know who you're talking about.
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Somebody help me here. Can this truly be the same band???

From the excellent first "Gravedigger" hard rock lp to the limp Kitaro/Yannish newage slobber-pap of "Journey".
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Jacob Schoolcraft Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:


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however my personal preference was in the deepness of Bridget Wishart. I liked her costumes ...her theatrics...her masks!! and renditions of Robert Calvert songs. I really liked her emulation and original style the best. She could role play characters and her stage presence was unique in Hawkwind.


Hi,

Not sure what the whole thing was about, but she was definitely a special touch in the life of Hawkwind, but it never got off that macho thing in loudness, and not allow for Bridget to shine even more and that album is really good and has some far out touches ... but I suppose that DB thought it would sidetrack the "trip" for the band ... something that nowadays, looks a bit ridiculous and very silly, and for me, the band died after those albums. I have not enjoyed listening to anything since, and in fact, stopped buying altogether, including side albums.


That is very sad and I agree with you. Hawkwind did have a good run of albums from different time periods. The early albums were unique and then by 1975 they used a Mellotron on Hall Of The Mountain Grill and then Warrior On The Edge Of Time. Hawkwind and Man toured the U.S. together in 74' and then things changed when Bob Calvert became the frontman for Hawkwind and wrote stories about the future...which I found fascinating.

After Calvert Hugh Lloyd Langton who had a brief stay and appeared on the first album..returned...and along with Ginger Baker the Levitation album along with 5 or 6 more albums was a good run of material. Then Bridget Wishart...then Hawkwind as a 3 piece band...then Ron Tree joining which was okay...however I wasn't thrilled with the direction they took thereafter. Arthur Brown would sometimes perform with the band and forget the words to the songs...then Blood Of The Earth...Insomnia and others were not magical to me. I can certainly understand why fans of Hawkwind would like those albums and perhaps it's just my preference and they didn't grow on me. I wish I could still enjoy their music. I was always thrilled over the idea that they hired real Sci-Fi writers to create concepts and of course lyricism
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

He might still have not come down from his last LSD trip (whenever that was), but he's not drunk. 
Dude, I mean high, not drunk. xD I was being tongue in cheek anwyway.



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Originally posted by Jacob Schoolcraft Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:


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however my personal preference was in the deepness of Bridget Wishart. I liked her costumes ...her theatrics...her masks!! and renditions of Robert Calvert songs. I really liked her emulation and original style the best. She could role play characters and her stage presence was unique in Hawkwind.


Hi,

Not sure what the whole thing was about, but she was definitely a special touch in the life of Hawkwind, but it never got off that macho thing in loudness, and not allow for Bridget to shine even more and that album is really good and has some far out touches ... but I suppose that DB thought it would sidetrack the "trip" for the band ... something that nowadays, looks a bit ridiculous and very silly, and for me, the band died after those albums. I have not enjoyed listening to anything since, and in fact, stopped buying altogether, including side albums.
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Jacob Schoolcraft Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:

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 to Electric Teepee....a huge change in structure by returning to more of a Space Rock style of jamming. Gone was the Metal oriented style and they returned to repetitive Space Rock jamming ...though it differed from the Space Ritual sound because of new keyboards.
...

Hi,

I think of Electric Tepee as a sort of ambient acid rock ... it has some very hard materials that recall some of the Space Ritual stuff. AND, the end thing that I think might not be quite understood ... the last cut ... Electric Tepee was a "pow-wow" just like Space Ritual was ... and there was a comment here way back when that it was the stupidest thing they ever heard!

Originally posted by Jacob Schoolcraft Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:

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 It is The Business Of The Future sounded more Electronic. 
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Again, I see it as a continuation of their ambient sound, though this was much softer than the previous album, which was a very good and loud album.

I find these 2 albums really good and a great listen ... and the only thing that bothers me, is them using the Rolling Stones song to fill out the IITBOTF album ... I know it was a benefit that they had given a lot to, but to me it broke the feeling of the album.


Yes I agree. It definitely broke the feeling of the album. By the time they release ALIEN 4 they had already hired Ron Tree who was a fan of Robert Calvert and he did pursue that Calvert role by re-recording "Death Trap" and also through live performance on LOVE IN SPACE, however my personal preference was in the deepness of Bridget Wishart. I liked her costumes ...her theatrics...her masks!! and renditions of Robert Calvert songs. I really liked her emulation and original style the best. She could role play characters and her stage presence was unique in Hawkwind.
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

One of the single biggest changes happened between Goblin's 1980 soundtrack Contamination and the disco-fueled pop rock of their studio LP Volo two years later. Its sole instrumental, "Est," was a leftover they later used again for the Notturno soundtrack.
That's a strange one indeed, but i guess Goblin split in two in the early 80s, just check the line-up for Volo and that of Tenebre OST. I like the Tenebre soundtrack. Smile


Indeed, Simonetti, Morante and Pignatelli created Tenebre, but Pignatelli is also on Volo.
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Return to Forever: Light as a Feather to Hymn of the Seventh Galaxy. Both classics. Light as a Feather is mainly acoustic fusion that includes instruments such as the flute, saxophone and double bass as well as vocals.

Hymn of the Seventh Galaxy is melt your face electric fusion in the mould of the Mahavisnu Orchestra.
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Originally posted by Jacob Schoolcraft Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:

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 to Electric Teepee....a huge change in structure by returning to more of a Space Rock style of jamming. Gone was the Metal oriented style and they returned to repetitive Space Rock jamming ...though it differed from the Space Ritual sound because of new keyboards.
...

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I think of Electric Tepee as a sort of ambient acid rock ... it has some very hard materials that recall some of the Space Ritual stuff. AND, the end thing that I think might not be quite understood ... the last cut ... Electric Tepee was a "pow-wow" just like Space Ritual was ... and there was a comment here way back when that it was the stupidest thing they ever heard!

Originally posted by Jacob Schoolcraft Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:

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 It is The Business Of The Future sounded more Electronic. 
...

Again, I see it as a continuation of their ambient sound, though this was much softer than the previous album, which was a very good and loud album.

I find these 2 albums really good and a great listen ... and the only thing that bothers me, is them using the Rolling Stones song to fill out the IITBOTF album ... I know it was a benefit that they had given a lot to, but to me it broke the feeling of the album.


Edited by moshkito - Yesterday at 07:18
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Islands to Larks Tongues In Aspic is the correct answer, followed by Red to Discipline.
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This came to my mind as well!  

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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

About Supersister, if Iskander was a departure from Pudding, what shall we say about Spiral Staircase compared top either of them? Wink
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Pedro survived the Summer Of Love in Frisco in 67.... So if his often overlong  posts are always a bit difficult to comprehend, there aren't spelling many mistakes or stutters that would lead anyone to think he's drunk.

He might still have not come down from his last LSD trip (whenever that was), but he's not drunk. 

Hi,

Well there is a reason why I like the GD's long cuts ... hahaha ... but honestly ... I gave up drinking and toking when a California Governor said something that really got me mad ... "let them get stoned and I will win all the elections" ... and while I'm all pro this and that, somehow that comment really hurt ... and we don't get it, and make some comments that are ... well ... they can have their "objective" comments!

I always stand for the music and its history ... and "song" is something that became an issue only with POPULAR music, not "serious music" in the history that is taught in all schools ... so a lot of folks not helping the music be better and more important, is an issue for me ... changes are what the 20th century was about in the arts .... but most folks here don't care to hear that, because it interferes with their favorite choices, and the idea that they might not have heard enough music to know the difference. I'm not sure that is the main issue, but it might be one of them. And that is not to say that anyone is incorrect, but it is a slight challenge to many of you to improve your listening ability ... I think that all the Special Collab's in PA have that ability to a good/great extent, though sometimes seeing a posting leaves your head going ... what??? ... but a large thx to Sean and a couple of others ... I know that I am only trying to help the music ... we have to get better at that, in order to make a point in the history of it all, otherwise it will be just another moment lost in time ... like smoke in the wind ... dissipated ... and the next bird goes right by it looking for food!Confused



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id say maybe The Mars Volta, from The Bedlam In Goliath to Octahedron, or also Noctourniquet to Self Titled.


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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

One of the single biggest changes happened between Goblin's 1980 soundtrack Contamination and the disco-fueled pop rock of their studio LP Volo two years later. Its sole instrumental, "Est," was a leftover they later used again for the Notturno soundtrack.
That's a strange one indeed, but i guess Goblin split in two in the early 80s, just check the line-up for Volo and that of Tenebre OST. I like the Tenebre soundtrack. Smile



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One of the single biggest changes happened between Goblin's 1980 soundtrack Contamination and the disco-fueled pop rock of their studio LP Volo two years later. Its sole instrumental, "Est," was a leftover they later used again for the Notturno soundtrack.
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

He might still have not come down from his last LSD trip (whenever that was), but he's not drunk. 
Dude, I mean high, not drunk. xD I was being tongue in cheek anwyway.
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