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BrufordFreak ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 25 2008 Location: Wisconsin Status: Offline Points: 8546 |
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Can't believe I missed this one! You know how I LOVE lists!
Canterbury Scene: Homunculus Res Limiti all’equaglianza della parte con il tutto Crossover: Bent Knee Shiny Eyed Babies, Mike Oldfield Hergest Ridge, David Axelrod Song of Innocence, Supertramp Crime of the Century Eclectic: Utopia Todd Rundgren’s Utopia, Seven Impale City of the Sun, Beardfish Destined Solitaire, Axon-Neuron Metamorphosis Experimental/Post Metal: Maudlin of The Well Part the Second, Maudlin of The Well Bath/Leaving Your Bodymap Heavy: Midas Fall Cold Waves Divide Us/Evaporate, Riverside Second Life Syndrome Indo-Prog/Raga Rock: Shakti Natural Elements Jazz-Rock Fusion: Lenny White Venusian Summer, Hermann Szobel Szobel, Area Crac!, Chick Corea The Mad Hatter Krautrock: Electric Orange Volume 10 NeoProg: Edison’s Children The Final Breath Before November Post Rock: Gifts from Enola Gifts from Enola, Battlestations The Extent of Damage, Bark Psychosis Codename: DustSucker Prog Folk: Harmonium Si on avait besoin d’une cinquième saison, Faun Renaissance , Iona Open Sky Prog Electronic: Alio Die & Lorenzo Montaná Holographic Codex Progressive Metal: Proghma-C Bar-Do Travel, Votum Harvest Moon, Earthside Let the Truth Speak, Stare At The Clouds This Clear Divide Psychedelic/Space: Magick Brother & Mystic Sister Magick Brother & Mystic Sister, Oceansize Everyone into Position RIO/Avant: Five-Storey Ensemble Not That City, Hermann Szobel Szobel, black midi Cavalcade RPI: PFM per un amico, Il Balletto De Bronzo Ys Symphonic: Genesis The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, King Kong - Jean-Luc Ponty Plays the Music of Frank Zappa, Yes Relayer, Mike Oldfield Hergest Ridge Technical/Extreme Metal: Ne Obliviscaris Exul Various: Colossus/Musea Odyssey: The Greatest Tale Zeuhl: Magma MDK Prog-Related: Talking Heads Remain in Light Proto-Prog: The United States of America The United States of America, The Collectors The Collectors For nine of the 22 categories I have a clear-cut favorite as listed, for the other 13 sub-genres I've listed the most favored first followed by the others that are ever-so-close to being my favorite. Also, there are several albums whose categoric assignation on PA is not in agreement with my own assessment. |
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Gnik Nosmirc ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 28 2024 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 283 |
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This is a great list too. It has many underrated artists, and even some I didn't know. I still have a lot of work to reach that level of knowledge! |
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Eclectic/RIO/RPI/Canterbury
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38061 |
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Sure, post and amend as many lists as you like.
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"Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself" (The Prisoner, 1967).
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Gnik Nosmirc ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 28 2024 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 283 |
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May I post an alternative list? Then I will stop here.
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Edited by Gnik Nosmirc - April 01 2025 at 15:18 |
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Eclectic/RIO/RPI/Canterbury
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38061 |
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^ Don't worry about it, your list itself has equal value here or there. It is easy to miss topics, searching can be hard, and easy to assume that the same topic might not have been done before. I wasn't even going to move your post to this one until it was mentioned by another person. As a moderator I can merge topics and have done that many, many times over the years. It's no big deal, unless it's long topic as that has taken me hours to do before.
I like your list: That Swans is in my first list, I love Radiohead's Kid A and might have gone with for Crossover, love Lizard, Atomic Rooster, Khan, Focus and more which are favourites of mine. |
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"Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself" (The Prisoner, 1967).
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Gnik Nosmirc ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 28 2024 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 283 |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38061 |
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Moved the above post from a new topic with the same theme as this after it was noted by another that this topic exists and is still active as we try to avoid duplicating topics (I know doing forum searches is not easy). Here is a deliberately different list of albums than in my first post here which I had thought to prepare in response to Gnik Nosmirc's topic.
Canterbury Scene: Soft Machine - Third Crossover: Fishmans - 98.12.28 Otokotachi no wakare (live album) Eclectic: Jean-Claude Vannier - L'enfant assassin des mouches Experimental/Post Metal: Boris - Performing "flood" (live album) Heavy: Black Widow - Sacrifice Jazz rock: Embryo - Embryo's Rache Krautrock: Can - Ege Bamyasi Neo: Duster - Contemporary Movement Post Rock: Godspeed You! Black Emmeror - F# A# ∞ Folk: Perry Leopold - Christian Lucifer Electronic: Igor Wakhevitcvh - Docteur faust Metal: Diablo Swing Orchestra - Pacifisticuffs Psychedelic: Pink Floyd - Meddle RIO/Avant: Geinoh Yamashirogumi - Osorezan / Dou No Kenbai RPI: Franco Battiato - Sulle Corde di Aries Symphonic: Aphrodite's Child - 666 Technical Extreme Metal - Dimension Hatross Various: Weber - Jesus Christ Superstar Zeuhl: Eskaton - 4 Visions Related: David Bowie - Hunky Dory Edited by Logan - April 01 2025 at 14:08 |
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"Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself" (The Prisoner, 1967).
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Gnik Nosmirc ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 28 2024 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 283 |
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Canterbury Scene: Khan - Space Shanty Crossover: Procol Harum - Shine On Brigthly Eclectic: King Crimson - Lizard Experimental metal: Tool - Lateralus Heavy: Atomic Rooster - Death Walks Behind You Jazz rock: Return to Forever - Romantic Warrior Krautrock: Brainticket - Cottonwoodhill Neo: Marillion - Script for a Jester's Tear Post Rock: Swans - Soundtracks for the Blind Folk: Jethro Tull - A Passion Play Electronic: Kraftwerk - Autobhan Metal: Dream Theater - Awake Psychedelic: Ozric Tentacles - Jurassic Shift RIO: Univers Zero - Used RPI: PFM - Per Un Amico Symphonic: Focus - Hamburger Concerto Technical Metal: Animals as Leaders - The Joy of Motion Zheul: Ruins - Pallaschtom Related: Radiohead - Kid A Proto: Touch - Touch |
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10's List
- Canterbury Scene: The Muffins - Bakers Dozen Box - Crossover Prog: Knifeworld - The Unravelling - Eclectic Prog: William D Drake - The Rising of the Lights - Experimental/Post Metal: Ex Eye - Ex Eye - Heavy Prog: Hedvig Mollestad - All Them Witches - Jazz Rock/Fusion: Jaga Jazzist - One Armed Bandit - Krautrock: The Utopia Strong - The Utopia Strong - Neo-Prog: Asturias - Fractals - Post-Rock/Math Rock: Swans - The Seer - Prog Folk: North Sea Radio Orchestra - I A Moon - Progressive Electronic: Radio Massacre International - Time & Motion - Progressive Metal: Diablo Swing Orchestra - Pandora's Pinata - Psychedelic/Space Rock: The Future Kings Of England - Who Is This Who Is Coming? - RIO/Avant-Prog: Vezhlivy Otkaz Gusi-Lebedi - Symphonic Prog: Kotebel - Concerto for Piano and Electric Ensemble - Tech/Extreme Prog Metal: Behold The Arctopus - Horrorscension - Zeuhl: Setna - Guerison - Prog Related: Jean Michel Jarre - Equinoxe Infinity |
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Ian
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60's list
- Canterbury Scene: Kevin Ayers - Joy Of A Toy - Eclectic Prog: King Crimson - In The Court Of The Crimson King - Indo-Prog/Raga Rock: Third Ear Band - Alchemy - Jazz Rock/Fusion: Miles Davis - In A Silent Way - Krautrock: Amon Duul II - Phallus Dei - Psychedelic/Space Rock: Pink Floyd - Piper At The Gates Of Dawn - RIO/Avant-Prog: Frank Zappa - Hot Rats - Prog Related: Led Zeppelin - II - Proto-Prog: Deep Purple - The Book of Taliesyn Edited by Nogbad_The_Bad - December 28 2024 at 17:38 |
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Ian
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A Live list
Canterbury Scene: Caravan - Live At The Fairfield Halls 1974 Crossover Prog: Suretramp - Paris Eclectic Prog: King Crimson - The Great Deceiver Heavy Prog: Rush - Exit Stage Left Indo-Prog/Raga Rock: Jazz Rock/Fusion: One Shot - Live In Tokyo Krautrock: CAN - Stuttgart 75 Post Rock/Math Rock: Black Country New Road - Live At Bush Hall Prog Folk: The Decemberists - Live Home Library Prog Metal: Progressive Electronic: Tangerine Dream - Ricochet Psychedelic/Space Rock: Hawkwind - Space Ritual RIO/Avant-Prog: Henry Cow - Concerts Rock Progressivo Italiano: Symphonic Prog: Camel - A Live Record Tech/Extreme Metal: Zeuhl: Magma - Trilogie Theusz Hamtaahk Prog Related: 801 - Live Proto-Prog: Deep Purple - Made In Japan Edited by Nogbad_The_Bad - December 28 2024 at 17:25 |
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Ian
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I didn't know "neo-prog" as a term was so divisive. Multiple tags would solve a lot of problems. Frost* is one of the bands in the wrong category, I have never understood why they are under 'neo-prog" on PA, when (IMO obviously) they should be crossover.
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I might add that Robin Armstrong has issued an instruction ahead of the new Cosmograf album to reviewers for them NOT to describe the music as “neo prog”. I suggested getting rid of this and other sub-genres ages ago, and got myself in a whole heap of trouble here, but I have not changed my mind. I believe that neo, crossover (something which exists merely in the head of PA collabs) and eclectic should be replaced by going back to an art rock category.
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29894 |
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To be fair I did go back and listen to Infringement's debut album (they have 3 in total) after I posted my comment and that does fit more in the neo prog category than the recent album. They are a band that has evolved, but nevertheless many will not listen to 'neo prog' and Jem Godfrey recently even stated in a yt interview with Andy Edwards that describing bands as 'neo prog' was like putting them in the trash. He has a point as it does seem a term that is diversive and seems reserved for bands that couldn't (or didn't want to) play the full blown classic style so simplified it for their own purposes to be more accessible to the post punk crowd (Post rock also did this but in a much more art based way). Also a lot of the time I don't hear that much difference between 'Crossover' and 'Neo' bands. They could easily be merged now.
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You are not completely wrong. maybe the neo-team thought neo-prog is the best fit for Infringement. It also happens that bands/artist fall through the cracks because they don't fit anywhere or they get in evaluation hell and takes a really long time to be cleared and added. I also think some bands are in the wrong subgenre and some that would not even be added if they were evaluated nowadays. But that's another story.
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If I'm going to do this it has to be five lists minimum, and even that, limiting it to a top five will leave out some favourites, especially in Jazz. So I may cheat and show 2 Jazz titles. At least that will make me feel somewhat better about doing this.
I've just never had set in stone favourites from these sub-genres except for Dark Side Of The Moon and Permanent Waves. With the rest it's a pool of 5 to 15 or so, and it depends on my mood as to what I feel is the best that day. Love the lists, hope they keep on coming. I'm limiting it to 18 sub genres. |
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^ okay that's fine, wasn't trying to be critical but I wondered how broad your experience of 'Neo Prog' was. Personally I believe this sub genre on PA should be limited to 80's bands only. That was when the term was in common usage. It became redundant very quickly. Now we have artists in this sub genre that have little to do with it at all. For instance I've no idea why Infringement would even be in there. This is just excellent progressive rock music from Norway and that's all. If I had my way I would now close the 'Neo' sub set in terms of adding any new bands as it's seems a totally pointless exercise (admittedly this argument belongs on the improving the site forum and not here so I'm not pushing it but just mention it in reference to your comment which may be throwing a lot of stuff under the bus needlessly)
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^I've heard Frost and Galahad which didn't grab me. Not familiar with the other. When it gets right down to it, I've ended up with a ton of music in my collection that I like and have had little time to revisit during the time I was evaluating for the site. So new stuff has really taken a back seat to reacquaint myself with my existing collection. I've listened/purchased maybe 10 new albums this year, only one artist I was not already aware of. There are certainly other Neo selections out there that would check all the boxes, but I'm at the saturation stage.
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