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Originally posted by Alard Charlton Alard Charlton wrote:

I was in contact with Martin at the time and he didn't become a truck driver. It was a a very delicate and not very nice situation between himself and Mike Holmes. Orford was also becoming disillusioned about the ( then relatively new ) download culture. 
He left and decided to give up music and concentrate on his love of steam trains. 
I believe he is back in a part time capacity with Jadis.  

I got this from Andy Edwards yt channel. I did wonder at the time if it was just Andy's attempt at a 'joke'. Appears so! LOL
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

IMHO Road of Bones had significantly less memorable "hooks" let's say than Frequency. It was still a delicious album though. But Resistance, for my tastes, is a clear step down. Songwriting-wise, it shows clear symptoms of the band running out of ideas. I hope IQ will bring back some of the "hummable" qualities of their older works on their upcoming album.


For me Resistance was a huge step down from ALL their previous albums, including those with Paul Menel on lead vocals.

If I score IQ albums out of 100, every album would score over 90 except Resistance, which would score more like 60-65. So many dull tracks on that album🤦🏼‍♂️
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^ It may be the curse of the double album perhaps. The Road Of Bones was not originally envisaged as a double but became one after fans overwelmingly purchased the 2 disc version. Frequency was a much tighter affair and also featured one of the best English prog drummers Andy Edwards (now more famous for his yt channel it seems). However Neil Durants keyboard programming is exquisite on Resistance and creates a wonderful soundscape for the music. I feel it's a much more interesting album than TROB which pretty much repeats the track Further Away and shows virtually no musical progression in ideas. Prog is not always about 'the songs'.

IQ top 5 for me
1. Ever
2. The Wake
3. Frequency
4. Tales From The Lush Attic
5. The Seventh House

Most overrated IQ album - Dark Matter. If ever an album showed a band running on fumes that was it IMO. Never rated it better than a 3 star album in PA terms.

However for me the Paul Menel albums have to be at the bottom. He was never a good fit although I admire him as an artist in his right. His attempt at a prog epic with Human Nature was quite good fun actually and I love the song Nothing At All. Also No Love Lost was decent. Imagine Duran Duran had become a prog band and you have IQ in the Menel years..


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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

^ It may be the curse of the double album perhaps. The Road Of Bones was not originally envisaged as a double but became one after fans overwelmingly purchased the 2 disc version. Frequency was a much tighter affair and also featured one of the best English prog drummers Andy Edwards (now more famous for his yt channel it seems). However Neil Durants keyboard programming is exquisite on Resistance and creates a wonderful soundscape for the music. I feel it's a much more interesting album than TROB which pretty much repeats the track Further Away and shows virtually no musical progression in ideas. Prog is not always about 'the songs'.

IQ top 5 for me
1. Ever
2. The Wake
3. Frequency
4. Tales From The Lush Attic
5. The Seventh House

Most overrated IQ album - Dark Matter. If ever an album showed a band running on fumes that was it IMO. Never rated it better than a 3 star album in PA terms.

However for me the Paul Menel albums have to be at the bottom. He was never a good fit although I admire him as an artist in his right. His attempt at a prog epic with Human Nature was quite good fun actually and I love the song Nothing At All. Also No Love Lost was decent. Imagine Duran Duran had become a prog band and you have IQ in the Menel years..




Common Ground, from Nomzamo, is one of my very favourite IQ tracks. Nomzamo was my first album of theirs and I played it to death. And I still love it! AYSC? was more commercial but still is a fantastic album.

I’ve never made a connection between IQ and Duran Duran though😂
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Originally posted by essexboyinwales essexboyinwales wrote:


I’ve never made a connection between IQ and Duran Duran though😂

Maybe DD are a bit of a stretch, but I always used to think of the Menel albums as being a slightly more 'prog' version of Ultravox... 
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Originally posted by Heart of the Matter Heart of the Matter wrote:


Great stuff indeed. Mike Holmes take a bow Clap
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Then I need to get to their whole catalog soon.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hrychu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 hours 45 minutes ago at 04:27
Originally posted by essexboy essexboy wrote:

Most overrated IQ album - Dark Matter.
Lmao. Do you have any valid arguments to back up this bold claim? "Boo! Popular progarchives critics love this record, but I don't!!" is not one of them.

I personally love Dark Matter. It has some of the catchiest leifmotifs in the whole catalog, plus it's very nicely balanced with the technical playing imo. Harvest of Souls is my favorite IQ epic. It just has such a well constructed flow to it. No subsection sticks out tbh.

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I actually just heard Dark Matter again recently, and I do admit that there's talent in the melodies and riffs, but it's also a bit familiar in the symphonic prog vein it's going for.  I also listened to The Seventh House a while back and found it more wide ranging and surprising.

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Originally posted by Rex Rex wrote:

I actually just heard Dark Matter again recently, and I do admit that there's talent in the melodies and riffs, but it's also a bit familiar in the symphonic prog vein it's going for. I also listened to The Seventh House a while back and found it more wide ranging and surprising.
Fair enough. I'm on the other hand a huge fan of the most cliché'd and standard symphonic prog tropes you can imagine, provided they're used in the context of great music.

The way IQ utilizes those tropes on Dark Matter triggers a very specific retro-prog area of my nerdy brain.
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Hi,

So far, what I have heard is nice. Not quite spectacularly great, but nice, and (perhaps) a bit pop'y for my tastes, or at least ... conventional. That's not to say that there are not nice things, but maybe I was expecting a bit more from a band that has been around for a long time.

I'm not exactly one for the conventional sounding things at all, and much prefer a more experimental attitude, rather than a simple, play the lyrics kind of thing, which for me, is a bit tiresome, as I am a writer and words have special meanings, and many times, some of these lyrics are ... very trying! I live for my vision and the words are how those visuals can be described, and I can easily see when others do the same, but more often than mot the majority of the rock lyrics are in the area of let's pretend. And I'm not even a let's pretend person when telling the young ones bedtime stories, which have a special place in my heart.
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Originally posted by Rex Rex wrote:

I actually just heard Dark Matter again recently, and I do admit that there's talent in the melodies and riffs, but it's also a bit familiar in the symphonic prog vein it's going for. I also listened to The Seventh House a while back and found it more wide ranging and surprising.
Fair enough. I'm on the other hand a huge fan of the most cliché'd and standard symphonic prog tropes you can imagine, provided they're used in the context of great music.

The way IQ utilizes those tropes on Dark Matter triggers a very specific retro-prog area of my nerdy brain.

Well you gotta go with the trigger.  In the context of raw favoritism, that's one of the most important things.

It's pretty rare for me to consider an album 10/10 if it follows a singular genre.  You'd have to make sure practically ever song is amazing for that to be the case.  This has in fact happened before, however, notably with the albums Songs of Leonard Cohen, South of Heaven by Slayer and Almoraima by Paco de Lucia.  It may also help if you have a strong theme which is lived up to in spades, such as The Disintegration Loops.  Otherwise, a diverse and great album suggests that you're good at more than just one thing, which is why I prefer diversified albums and even started that neo-prog recs thread.
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