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Unreal City - Horror Vacui

An exceptional blend of 70's Italian Prog, vintage horror music and... cartoon underscores.
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Hi,

I have a weird question. 

Would many of these be considered "horror" if their title/name did not say it, and the pictures were neutral?

I have not exactly enjoyed a lot of the albums going back 50 years that considered themselves ... this or that ... and some times, they were so cardboard that made Walt Disney look cool and far out!

I have not, yet, listened to most of the things listed here and will get to them this week. But the pictures, kinda take away your own visual and idea of the whole thing, which is often better than "being told" .... at least that has been like that for me in literature ... for many years.
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Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

White Noise - An Electric Storm
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Hi,

I have had this album for some time, I think I got it in 1972 or so and the album was already 2 or 3 years old.

It is a weird album, in my book, going from one side that is fun/funny, to a side that is a bit strange, and possibly suggestive of something else ... well, at least I can tell you that some Dennis Wheatley novels (FOR ME!) were a lot more descriptive and suggestive than that specific album side, which is ... for sure ... somewhat uncomfortable and makes one think and wonder about it.

The two sides of the album ... kinda ... makes you wonder what all the hoopla is about ... but while it is suggestive, I tend to think that it is more experimental than it is serious ... and that's a thought, not necessarily a reality!
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^ Great to see another reader of Dennis Wheatley.  
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Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

^ Great to see another reader of Dennis Wheatley.  

Hi,

Thx ... I got to read some of his novels way back when (50 years ago!!!), as a couple of movies were done, and some were way out there and I am not sure they ever got a wide release. I think the stories were too deep and ... it was obvious that someone knew what they were writing and why.

I don't get a lot of that feeling in most rock music stuff ever done, otherwise ... but maybe I was expecting more than just a song ... not something like PLUS ... doing the 7 sins. 
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Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

White Noise - An Electric Storm
Certainly one of the most disquieting records i ever heard (certainly when young) and best not listened to in an altered state or if of a sensitive disposition!


Delia Derbyshire had produced some very disturbing...frightening music beginning in the early 60s. She was innovative to the world of Electronic Music years before the Moog Synthesizer was in circulation. She experimented with sound generators. THE DREAMS by Delia Derbyshire & Barry Bermange is haunting. Electric Storm In Hell from White Noise is Satanic
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A lot of "Horror Prog" is written around the idea or belief that there is a deity called Satan. In some cases it has been portrayed through a made up story or a Black Mass. For example...Black Widow , Coven, or Jacula. The subject matter itself has a theatrical presentation and through the lyricism or sing-song chanting you can feel acting.


On a personal level I enjoy Univers Zero, Art Zoyd, and Goblin who all seem to focus on mysterious sounding music ...much more than the aforementioned. When listening to Univers Zero, Art Zoyd and Goblin you can interpret the music differently than a piece which rubs off on your consciousness as a Black Mass.

Throughout the history of Avant Garde, Electronic Music,Classical, Jazz and many sub-genres of Progressive Rock it is evident that some composers were occultists. In some cases...( though delusional), they felt a connection to the "spirit world" and pursued supernatural experiences of their own through music they created. Steve Jolliffe is an ideal candidate, but there are many others.

Instead of going the distance to purchase Aleister Crowley's house they extend their interest in the "Black arts" by sitting on a fence, ( so to speak) and their state of being undecided over what they read and believe surfaces through their music...while other musicians are pure occultists that have an inordinate interest in dangerous magic.

Some composers were subjected to a occultism environment as children and have triggers in adult life. Nightmares are a source to draw from when composing a piece that is dark. Not in all cases would you even think about that as in most cases your creativity is influenced by your Nightmares and is a feeling that cannot be described with words...not unlike Gnosis.

The music channels through you. It all occurs naturally. You have come into being...like the shadows and phantoms of the night. I cannot emphasize enough how important it is to not think of theory during this creative process. It's a better connection between you and the music if your mind is wiped clean. You think of nothing at all and the music controls your mind...

Musicians writing dark sounding pieces often utilize the tri tone interval. Supposedly there has never been any evidence of the tri tone interval being banned from churches throughout history...but are you pulling my leg?? Are going to perform a piece which repeats the tri tone interval in a Christian church? I don't think so. No...playing Larks Tongues In Aspic Part I in a church where people believe in Christ? How do you think that would work out? You wouldn't allow it...correct?

You can write variations of the tri tone interval..
you can create a harmony which is uneasy to the human ear. The unsettling nature of its tone when played on various instruments simultaneously can be luring, hypnotic and bewitching. I don't believe in the supernatural...but I'm merely stating a fact about the music and it's affect on people who are swept up by it ..when subjected to it.



Edited by Jacob Schoolcraft - February 09 2025 at 20:33
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Horrors Waiting in Line by Vaisseau is an album that screams for attention in this thread!

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I would tag the Legendary Pink Dots' album The Museum of Human Happiness as progressive horror-pop. I believe it would be adequate.

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Originally posted by meAsoi meAsoi wrote:

Horrors Waiting in Line by Vaisseau is an album that screams for attention in this thread!



Somewhat impressionable to me. It brings back some haunting memories of a occultism environment as a child. ...not so much horror movies and music as much as real people around me. To be precise...occultists. Wealthy people dressing in costumes you might recognize seeing on Dark Shadows. Strange people. Odd people who believe in the devil. Who seem to be deluding in life...who have multiple personalities..
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Originally posted by Jacob Schoolcraft Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:

Originally posted by meAsoi meAsoi wrote:

Horrors Waiting in Line by Vaisseau is an album that screams for attention in this thread!



Somewhat impressionable to me. It brings back some haunting memories of a occultism environment as a child. ...not so much horror movies and music as much as real people around me. To be precise...occultists. Wealthy people dressing in costumes you might recognize seeing on Dark Shadows. Strange people. Odd people who believe in the devil. Who seem to be deluding in life...who have multiple personalities..
Is it an occult oligarchy? That's cool, man!
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Coven - I wasn't sure witch track to choose for a brief spell, but Black Sabbath seems as good an unholy place as any to start. Smile

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Originally posted by meAsoi meAsoi wrote:

I would tag the Legendary Pink Dots' album The Museum of Human Happiness as progressive horror-pop. I believe it would be adequate.


That is quite interesting.
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Originally posted by IncogNeato IncogNeato wrote:

Originally posted by meAsoi meAsoi wrote:

I would tag the Legendary Pink Dots' album The Museum of Human Happiness as progressive horror-pop. I believe it would be adequate.


That is quite interesting.
Sure is.
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Originally posted by meAsoi meAsoi wrote:

Originally posted by Jacob Schoolcraft Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:

Originally posted by meAsoi meAsoi wrote:

Horrors Waiting in Line by Vaisseau is an album that screams for attention in this thread!



Somewhat impressionable to me. It brings back some haunting memories of a occultism environment as a child. ...not so much horror movies and music as much as real people around me. To be precise...occultists. Wealthy people dressing in costumes you might recognize seeing on Dark Shadows. Strange people. Odd people who believe in the devil. Who seem to be deluding in life...who have multiple personalities..
Is it an occult oligarchy? That's cool, man!


People believed it was . It would be interesting to cross paths with someone one day who may have had similar experiences and have conversation. It's highly unlikely.

In my youth I was subjected to people who were into Duo Worship. God in the day, Satan in the night. It had nothing to do with the Church Of Satan short of people turning against LaVey and leaving it for a different belief system which they had been forbidden to pursue.

This group had an inordinate interest in Luciferian practices and or occult practices. They practiced a particular ritual which derived from a Judeo-Christian concept.

They were interrogated by police after a body was discovered. They discovered a box made out of metal with carvings of Egyptian hieroglyphics on the outside. On the inside were hallways that led through a maze. An animal would be placed inside the box ..then slamming the door piercing the animal with sharp nails located on the inside. ...having similarities to an "iron maiden".

They would lower a child into a pit full of dead snakes and they would stand above the pit chanting and trying to channel a demon through the child. They applied the same thing with "Automatic Writing " using a feathered pen to write messages on paper as they chanted. As if they tried to communicate with the dead.

Their main interest seemed to revolve around demons having hierarchies and legions..leagues. They were completely delusional...imo...to believe that a human sacrifice could be a cause to gain power...or the Philosopher's Stone..or whatever??? They displayed multiple personalities and they were delusional to trust in ancient books or scriptures that say so. Something written centuries ago and you don't know how many hands it's passed through or if the desert fathers Writing it were hallucinating. And they just cave in and completely trust in something that had existed before recorded history . It's not fact based...there's no evidence...its just made up stories. Everyone belonging to this cult ...aside from a selective amount of occultists...ended up in mental hospitals throughout the remaining 70s and were never able to function properly in the community again...and that was a lot of people.
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Originally posted by Jacob Schoolcraft Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:

Originally posted by meAsoi meAsoi wrote:

Originally posted by Jacob Schoolcraft Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:

Originally posted by meAsoi meAsoi wrote:

Horrors Waiting in Line by Vaisseau is an album that screams for attention in this thread!



Somewhat impressionable to me. It brings back some haunting memories of a occultism environment as a child. ...not so much horror movies and music as much as real people around me. To be precise...occultists. Wealthy people dressing in costumes you might recognize seeing on Dark Shadows. Strange people. Odd people who believe in the devil. Who seem to be deluding in life...who have multiple personalities..
Is it an occult oligarchy? That's cool, man!


People believed it was . It would be interesting to cross paths with someone one day who may have had similar experiences and have conversation. It's highly unlikely.

In my youth I was subjected to people who were into Duo Worship. God in the day, Satan in the night. It had nothing to do with the Church Of Satan short of people turning against LaVey and leaving it for a different belief system which they had been forbidden to pursue.

This group had an inordinate interest in Luciferian practices and or occult practices. They practiced a particular ritual which derived from a Judeo-Christian concept.

They were interrogated by police after a body was discovered. They discovered a box made out of metal with carvings of Egyptian hieroglyphics on the outside. On the inside were hallways that led through a maze. An animal would be placed inside the box ..then slamming the door piercing the animal with sharp nails located on the inside. ...having similarities to an "iron maiden".

They would lower a child into a pit full of dead snakes and they would stand above the pit chanting and trying to channel a demon through the child. They applied the same thing with "Automatic Writing " using a feathered pen to write messages on paper as they chanted. As if they tried to communicate with the dead.

Their main interest seemed to revolve around demons having hierarchies and legions..leagues. They were completely delusional...imo...to believe that a human sacrifice could be a cause to gain power...or the Philosopher's Stone..or whatever??? They displayed multiple personalities and they were delusional to trust in ancient books or scriptures that say so. Something written centuries ago and you don't know how many hands it's passed through or if the desert fathers Writing it were hallucinating. And they just cave in and completely trust in something that had existed before recorded history . It's not fact based...there's no evidence...its just made up stories. Everyone belonging to this cult ...aside from a selective amount of occultists...ended up in mental hospitals throughout the remaining 70s and were never able to function properly in the community again...and that was a lot of people.
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@Jacob Schoolcraft

I love it, man; I love those stories... I love reading about Aleister Crowley, Anton Szandor LaVey, and his Church of Satan in San Francisco and all that crazy stuff from the hippy era.
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Originally posted by meAsoi meAsoi wrote:

@Jacob Schoolcraft

I love it, man; I love those stories... I love reading about Aleister Crowley, Anton Szandor LaVey, and his Church of Satan in San Francisco and all that crazy stuff from the hippy era.

Someone once asked Sammy Davis Jr. why he belonged to the church of Satan, he replied “I’m just here for the crazy chicks man!”

Edited by Valdez - 16 hours 44 minutes ago at 20:17
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The single most unintentionally funny thing about LaVey is that he died completely broke. He was living on handouts!
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

The single most unintentionally funny thing about LaVey is that he died completely broke. He was living on handouts!
While both the aforementioned Aleister Crowley and Anton Szandor LaVey faced financial difficulties towards the ends of their lives, it is more accurate to state that Aleister Crowley was living on handouts at the end of his life, whereas Anton LaVey had some means of support—for instance, he charged membership in his Church of Satan to each of its members at 150 USD per year—but still struggled financially in his final years, since he had to pay expensive lawyers when he faced a palimony lawsuit from Diane Hegarty. 
However, despite being the founder and the leader of the Church of Satan, LaVey wasn't really an occultist; Crowley was.
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