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Gilmour's album won prog magazine album of the year yet has been largely shunned by PA listeners it seems. A view I hear echoed generally is that 2024 was a year that ran deep for good releases but the quality at the top was below that of the previous year. I tend to agree.
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OK, I will try to block the w-e to come up with an order in my list (whih is now closed) and hopefully I'll manage to achieve that for monday at the latest, but I'm still unable to build list with AP, so it'll be a word list published in this thread.
I'm not even sure I'll want to make separate "rock" and "jazz" lists ohave time for it.

not that my list will change much what's coming in the cumlulative ranking, so it doesn't matter whether it will taken into account to set it up.
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FYI: During the last 24 hours some users have updated their list through AP ... nice job! It is not visible in this thread, so don't assume that things aren't happening just because there are no posts here Smile

BTW: BBT is catching up on SGM ...
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

I'm curious - to everyone who submitted a really long list (e.g. more than 40 entries), like I also did previously: How often have you listened to the releases? Obviously it's hard to say unless you have a tool to keep track of it, but for me, when I had like 50 releases in the list there were many which I had only heard once. This year I'm filtering the list for releases that I still find truly outstanding after repeated listens throughout the year. I'm NOT saying that this is better or worse than any other strategy - what's your opinion? Smile

I have to be drawn back to an album after a first listen in order for it to earn my devoted/undivided attention for the creation of a review. With over 100 albums listened to from 2024, only about 60 earned reviews.
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^ That's really impressive work, more than one review per week on average. Clap
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^ Impressive! I am curious how you would tier all these releases, how many would end up in the S or A tier. Possibly all of them? Smile

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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ Impressive! I'd be curious how you would tier all these releases, how many would end up in the S or A tier. Possibly all of them? Smile

I don't know what you mean by S or A tier. I grade my albums on a 10-point scale (divide by 2 to get Prog Archives 5-star scale):
Albums 1-4 are between 9.00 and 10 (masterpiece)
Albums 5-17 are between 8.50 and 8.99 (just under a masterpiece)
Albums 18-40 are between 8.00 and 8.49 (great album)
Albums 41-59 are between 7.50 and 7.99 (very good album)
Albums 60-63 are between 7.00 and 7.49 (good album, but not likely to listen to very often)

I didn't enter anything under 7.00 (which would be poor to OK)

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Originally posted by Mirakaze Mirakaze wrote:

Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Great list! Awesome to see Spinifex and Grdina getting some more love Clap

I was really impressed with those two. I believe I discovered both of them from some list you made in one of those "best of 2024" threads, so I owe you thanks for bringing them my attention. Now I need to set aside some time to explore their previous albums. 
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Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ Impressive! I'd be curious how you would tier all these releases, how many would end up in the S or A tier. Possibly all of them? Smile

I don't know what you mean by S or A tier. I grade my albums on a 10-point scale (divide by 2 to get Prog Archives 5-star scale):
Albums 1-4 are between 9.00 and 10 (masterpiece)
Albums 5-17 are between 8.50 and 8.99 (just under a masterpiece)
Albums 18-40 are between 8.00 and 8.49 (great album)
Albums 41-59 are between 7.50 and 7.99 (very good album)
Albums 60-63 are between 7.00 and 7.49 (good album, but not likely to listen to very often)

I didn't enter anything under 7.00 (which would be poor to OK)

Does that help?
 

Yes, thanks! I always find it interesting to see how people rate things. At AP we settled for a slightly more generous scale, 9.x/10 would be S-tier (stellar), 8.x is the A-tier (awesome), 7.x is B-tier (great) and 6.x is C-tier ("only" good). You're welcome to rate/tier your releases at AP, through the headphone icons in the voting list Smile 
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Gilmour's album won prog magazine album of the year yet has been largely shunned by PA listeners it seems. A view I hear echoed generally is that 2024 was a year that ran deep for good releases but the quality at the top was below that of the previous year. I tend to agree.

I did not particularly like Luck and Strange, found it quite boring and uneventful. But maybe I'll go back and listen to it once again. Smile
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One of the things that makes it more difficult is that Gnosis 2000 has been out since September (rebuilding because of change of host), and that makes it more complicated for me to keep tracks of thingsOuch


Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

I'm curious - to everyone who submitted a really long list (e.g. more than 40 entries), like I also did previously: How often have you listened to the releases? Obviously it's hard to say unless you have a tool to keep track of it, but for me, when I had like 50 releases in the list there were many which I had only heard once. This year I'm filtering the list for releases that I still find truly outstanding after repeated listens throughout the year. I'm NOT saying that this is better or worse than any other strategy - what's your opinion? Smile

Well I guess it depends on perception of what a "best of XXX list" is.
I'm generally known as someone that hates limits on lists, and will provide 2568794 entries for a top 5 list, just to show how annoyed I can be.LOL

Respected prog expert (from Sea Of Tranquility) Pete Pardo's lists read like a list of what was released in mainstream prog throughout the year and put an order  in it. His lists are always 100+, which gets you to wonderhow many times he's heard everyone of those.... or how much time he devotes to music, SoT and his YT vid chain (apparently he has a full-time job too).

Obviously albums that I haven't heard at least twice won't make my first draft list, but traditionally my personal faves of any year will have been listened to over 50 times (which is tougher to achieve for a great album released in November).


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I thought I was done with my list but had just listened to Absolute Elsewhere by Blood Incantation for the first time and I think it has to go somewhere on my list. I rarely, if ever, listen to extreme/tech metal but decided to give it a spin based on the death metal meets (collides with?) Pink Floyd description. When it comes to this genre, I have no issues with growls and "cookie monster" vocals but relentless double bass drumming does wear on me. I have to decide on whether it is partially novelty appeal because I don't listen to this type of music or if it is really good. The synth contributions by Thorsten Quaesching of Tangerine Dream adds to the appeal (and novelty). Will give this a few more listens, if possible.
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Gilmour's album won prog magazine album of the year yet has been largely shunned by PA listeners it seems. A view I hear echoed generally is that 2024 was a year that ran deep for good releases but the quality at the top was below that of the previous year. I tend to agree.

I did not particularly like Luck and Strange, found it quite boring and uneventful. But maybe I'll go back and listen to it once again. Smile
I wouldn't call it exciting or great (and didn't put it on my list), but it's a good listen, and I rate it comfortably above all his other solo albums except the debut. Maybe it's a bit similar to the Cure album - no innovation whatsoever but they do well what they are good at with all their maturity.


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I thought it might(ve been more difficult, but apparently the work done upstream paid when crossing the deadline

I left a space after spot 12, because there is a significant drop after them
Besically the first 12 are Gnosis 11 or 12

1- Sky Full Of Hope - Fractal Sextet
2- Spin - Nik Bärtsch's Ronin
3- Quindecennial – EYOT (live)
4- VII - Bondage Fruit
5- This Is Not The End - Present
6- Deerand - QUARTET DIMINISHED
7- Spring - Møster
8- Janel Leppin Ensemble Volcanic Ash - To March Is To Love
9- The Fellowship of the Mystery – Compassionizer
10- Ventre Unique - Orchestre Tout Puissant Marcel Duchamp
11- Vasta alkusoittoa - Tatu & Tutkimusmatkailijat
12- Tom Penaguin - S/T

13- Zopp – Danfest (live)
14- Live at l'Ermitage - Ghost Rhythms (live & despite the accordion)
15- From The North - GoGo Penguin
16- Cloudward - Mary Halvorson
17- Lives Outgrown - Beth Gibbons
18- Sleepers - Baku Llama
19- Merkurius – Vesilinja
20- Väistyy Mielen Yö - Viima
21- Lys fremtid i mørke – Actionfredag
22- Mythical River - Elephant9
23- Le Passage - Thierry Zaboitzeff
24- Catching Fire - Elephant 9 with Terje Rypdal
25- Tarot I & II - Magick Brother & Mystic Sister
26- New Moon In The Evil Age - Janel and Anthony
27- Endlessness - Nala Sinephro


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La Fin de l'Economie – Aquaserge
Progressions Imaginaires – PERILYMPH
Lauritz Skeidsvolls Rapid Light - S/T
Remnants Of Light – Needlepoint
Strawberry Line – Beak
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1. Greco Bastián - With a Little Hell from MORE friends [BC] 2. Geordie Greep - The New Sound [BC] [SPO] 3. Inner Ear Brigade - Perkunas [BC] 4. Tom Penaguin - Tom Penaguin [BC] 5. Jon Anderson - Jon Anderson & The Band Geeks: True [SPO] 6. Sleepytime Gorilla Museum - of the Last Human Being [BC] [SPO] 7. Cheer Accident - I Want My Buddha Back [BC] 8. Kugelschreiber - Cheerleaders [AP Prog] [BC] [SPO] 9. Luz De Riada - Rizoma [BC] 10. Actionfredag - Lys Fremtid I Mø​rke [BC] [SPO] 11. Viima - Väistyy Mielen Yö [BC] [SPO] 12. The Aristocrats - Duck [BC] [SPO] 13. Needlepoint - Remnants Of Light [BC] [SPO] 14. Compassionizer - The Fellowship Of The Mystery [BC] [SPO] 15. Focus - Focus 12 [SPO] 16. Tigran Hamasyan - The Bird Of A Thousand Voices [SPO] 17. Bent Knee - Twenty Pills Without Water [BC] [SPO] 18. Yesterdays - Petőfi Felhő Projekt 19. Cheer Accident - Vacate [BC] 20. Magick Brother & Mystic Sister - Tarot, Part I [BC] [SPO] Counting Info

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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ Not in my top 20 currently, even though I enjoyed listening to it. 2024 actually was a good year for prog, it's just that 2023 was huge in terms of quantity of relevant releases.

Come on prog people, cast your votes! The current #1 (SGM) is only 32 points ahead of the two runner-ups (BBT and Geordie Greep). Three days to go Cool

This was basically how I felt about Zopp being ahead of Agusa last year—thankfully it ended up turning out how I was hoping it would.
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