Prog Youtube!?

(history, not politics)

moshkito wrote: cstack3 wrote: I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the Daily Doug!  This review of Close to the Edge is a scream! ... Hi, I like DD and I dislike DD ... the main thing for me is ... too much vanilla stuff in the milkshake! And the sweetness is making me want to turn it off. I like some of them, considering that he is not man enough to label some of the music what it is ... as an example, TARKUS as a piano concert specially if you listen to Rachel Flowers' version, but in those days, just taking that score for a "piano concert" to a professor? You would be laughed off and sent home to write something else, and probably be given a lower score if possible ... same for RW and many others ... they all pretty much told the academic folks to go play with their fuzzy keys somewhere else. The worst part of it all, is him not being classy enough to actually say that some of that stuff is the "classical music" of today, and instead, he tells you a chord or two, or change that supposedly makes it better music, for these rockers, and in the end, it is just denying them their ability ... it's all just a song ... has no value within classical music and its history ... and to me that's a problem ... and he does not recognize that the difference between today and 100 years ago, is that no one knew any music, and only a handful of rich folks ever did!  But, the only thing that bothers me some ... DD has little courage, to take a look at some real music ... instead of some pop-rock favorites that show up in all kinds of lists by folks that ... both you and I would probably think ... is this about music, or that person's favorites? When you listen and study so much music, you do not always have "favorites" ... because you look at music for the experience that it is and gives us, not as a song!!! But I don't think we can see that at all! The shows, all in all, are fine, with one exception ... of those I have heard ... I got more than halfway through the listing with at least an hour each ... were all a copy of the radio stuff that we disliked 50 years ago, that helped FM radio come alive and bring new music to the front ... and we still do not accept that reality and think that it was all just another hit song! It was on the FM radio dial, but it was considered trash on the AM radio dial ... if you never heard a couple of those ash-wholes in Madison WI at the time ... that was abuse, and not about the music. I find it really strange that the folks that are doing this, have not themselves, defined the music of 50 years ago, and how it came alive, so their show would be a lot more than just a play of three hits, or four, and many times, even five of these ... by which time, I would have already turned it off anyway. I wish there was an appreciation for music way out in left field, and a show that presented things very differently, but in my book there is only one, and I'm sure Guy Guden gets tired of me talking about it, as do fans here, that intentionally do not read and ignore what I write as anti something and negative, when all I'm asking for is a new presentation, not a copy of the same thing that we disliked and tried to get away from. One last detail ... too many of those folks think that their voice is the gift to radio and the music, and they make their comments ... and sometimes, it is just better to let the music speak for itself, and many of those shows think the music can't exist without their voice and announcement! You really want something new? Or do you care? New is good for me, but getting fake radio trying to make you believe that all the stuff 50 years ago were the hits of the airwaves, is way too much for me ... at that point, I don't think that person cares about the music as much as they make it look like!

So what would you do if you had a YouTube channel and reviewed Prog? Would you say nice things in favor of getting more ratings or would you be honest?

No offense...I'm just curious.

Just recently I heard a Prog reviewer state that Kiss were a better band than Montrose. That's very comical ...but also disgraceful to a Progressive player like Ronnie Montrose. That's shameful! These people are shameful!

Four Prog revisionists making a video to put GONG YOU on a chopping block? Huh? Then one particular Prog revisionist says that all Prog bands should have sold out like Genesis because then we would have had more great songwriting. Where is this ideology coming from?

What about bands like Maneige, Conventum, Julverne, Goblin, Solaris, Anglagard,...were they suppose to sell out too? Is that why we have revisionists in Prog?....so that we can observe how great it is for Progressive Rock bands to sell out?

Why don't they leave that in the hands of people who know how to write commercial music in a fine way? Like 10CC, Supertramp, Kayak,Todd Rundgren ...?? They know how to write commercially viable music that is creative. Prog bands generally don't. Why criss cross the two? Why...because record executives pressured Progressive Rock bands to sell out in the 80s? As if that was a good thing? Gentle Giant Civilian and Giant For A Day are highly recommended as Prog albums? What are we talking about here?