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    Posted: January 20 2025 at 07:37
Curiosity made me look up what PA looked like back in 2006, when there are already some operating captures (older ones might be more difficult to work with), and browsing through some of the pages I ended up on the "Art Rock" sub-genre main page, something we don't have anymore on PA but what was even more curious to see is the top albums of this genre that come up, including King Crimson, Rush, The Mars Volta, VdGG.

I think it makes up for an interesting conversation on how much things have changed on the website since then, and perhaps some of the original admins would be more knowledgeable. How did art rock come to be removed from the website and how did all the other sub-genres get born? Just generally curious to hear the story as well as the opinions of other forum users. Smile
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Art-rock was not removed but split in three: eclectic, crossover and heavy-prog. 
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^Oh okay, makes sense looking at the bands involved.
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^ It was announced here.
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Originally posted by A Crimson Mellotron A Crimson Mellotron wrote:


Curiosity made me look up what PA looked like back in 2006, when there are already some operating captures (older ones might be more difficult to work with), and browsing through some of the pages I ended up on the "Art Rock" sub-genre main page, something we don't have anymore on PA but what was even more curious to see is the top albums of this genre that come up, including King Crimson, Rush, The Mars Volta, VdGG.

I think it makes up for an interesting conversation on how much things have changed on the website since then, and perhaps some of the original admins would be more knowledgeable. How did art rock come to be removed from the website and how did all the other sub-genres get born? Just generally curious to hear the story as well as the opinions of other forum users. Smile




That's a heck of a top 12 in Art Rock.
I like that they split it, it's not perfect but better for someone like myself who is into sub genres lists.That Art Rock sub genre was massive.
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Also shows the “wrong” cover for Octopus…..

Edited by Duddick - January 20 2025 at 13:39
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Originally posted by Duddick Duddick wrote:

Also shows the “wrong” cover for Octopus…..

it's not a wrong cover, but an alternative (for lack of a better word). 
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^ The USA cover?
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^ The USA cover?
Yes, the US and Canadian releases got this cover.
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I remember that cover when I had vinyl.
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Art-rock was not removed but split in three: eclectic, crossover and heavy-prog. 
That's a weird way of looking at it. If Art-Rock wasn't removed, it would obviously still be here. Art-Rock was removed from PA. The bands and artists however, were kept and placed in some newly made up sub-genres instead.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Art-rock was not removed but split in three: eclectic, crossover and heavy-prog. 
That's a weird way of looking at it. If Art-Rock wasn't removed, it would obviously still be here. Art-Rock was removed from PA. The bands and artists however, were kept and placed in some newly made up sub-genres instead.

I meant all the bands under "art-rock" were divided and tagged under the three genres mentioned above. 
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Originally posted by A Crimson Mellotron A Crimson Mellotron wrote:

Originally posted by Heart of the Matter Heart of the Matter wrote:

^ The USA cover?
Yes, the US and Canadian releases got this cover.
 
This was the cover I got when I purchased the CD from a local record store as an import (from ???) during the mid-to-late '90s.
 
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Haha. And I thought Crossover Prog was a blanket category. xd
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Originally posted by A Crimson Mellotron A Crimson Mellotron wrote:


 
Interesting that Pawn Hearts was ahead of Godbluff back then.
 
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Also original "mason jar" Canadian cover was precariously die-cut.(function(){function c(){var b=a.contentDocument||a.contentWindow.document;if(b){var d=b.createElement('script');d.innerHTML="window.__CF$cv$params={r:'9052474f8c48ebb4',t:'MTczNzQwOTgwOS4wMDAwMDA='};var a=document.createElement('script');a.nonce='';a.src='/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/scripts/jsd/main.js';document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(a);";b.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(d)}}if(document.body){var a=document.createElement('iframe');a.height=1;a.width=1;a.style.position='absolute';a.style.top=0;a.style.left=0;a.style.border='none';a.style.visibility='hidden';document.body.appendChild(a);if('loading'!==document.readyState)c();else if(window.addEventListener)document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded',c);else{var e=document.onreadystatechange||function(){};document.onreadystatechange=function(b){e(b);'loading'!==document.readyState&&(document.onreadystatechange=e,c())}}}})();< height="1" width="1" style=": ; top: 0px; left: 0px; border: none; visibility: ;">
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Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

^ It was announced here.

I also seem to remember some threads discussing the whole art rock category, alas I've slept since then so I am probably remembering something else LOL

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VDGG  release dates:

Pawn Hearts Nov '71
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Art-rock was not removed but split in three: eclectic, crossover and heavy-prog. 
That's a weird way of looking at it. If Art-Rock wasn't removed, it would obviously still be here. Art-Rock was removed from PA. The bands and artists however, were kept and placed in some newly made up sub-genres instead.


I meant all the bands under "art-rock" were divided and tagged under the three genres mentioned above. 
So King Crimson, Rush, Van Der Graaf Generator and Gentle Giant weren't removed from the Progarchives along with Art-Rock? Good to know.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Art-rock was not removed but split in three: eclectic, crossover and heavy-prog. 
That's a weird way of looking at it. If Art-Rock wasn't removed, it would obviously still be here. Art-Rock was removed from PA. The bands and artists however, were kept and placed in some newly made up sub-genres instead.


I meant all the bands under "art-rock" were divided and tagged under the three genres mentioned above. 
So King Crimson, Rush, Van Der Graaf Generator and Gentle Giant weren't removed from the Progarchives along with Art-Rock? Good to know.

I don't know why you feel the need to mock me, I don't think i said anything wrong... Ouch


Edited by Cristi - Yesterday at 01:11
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