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WillieThePimp
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Topic: Tormato Posted: June 26 2005 at 00:43 |
Everyone seems to pick on this album almost as much as Big Generator. Why?
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: June 26 2005 at 01:20 |
cause It's not very good, especially after the brilliant GFTO. (sans "Don't Kill the Whale")
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Sound Chaser
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Posted: June 26 2005 at 01:45 |
I'm a big fan of tormato. Don't Kill the Whale and a.Future
Times/b.Rejoyce both got stuck in my head and that's what got me into
yes in the first place. Release, Release is another great one and One
the Silent Wings of Freedom is a great song. The rest aren't that bad.
It's definately not one of yes' great albums but it doesn't deserve the
critisism it gets, much like drama.
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WillieThePimp
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Posted: June 26 2005 at 01:47 |
Sound Chaser wrote:
much like drama.
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WOOT! Same thing, and I especially like the production (re-release cd) over there other ones.
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barbs
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Posted: June 26 2005 at 04:36 |
On the silent wings of freedom is an excellent song IMO and I have
always like Release, Release and Madrigal is ok. The rest of the album
doesn't do anything for me unfortunately no matter how many times I
have tried to listen to it.
Not their best work obviously, nor is it their worst IMO but I do think
some early Yes lovers hold this period accountable for the demise of
the 'masters of prog' in the early 70s and possible despise the album
unreservably as an act of protest.
The whole issue of likes and dislikes is so subjective though and I
have often wondered how someone who would like the later Yes catalogue
would not be able to appreciate their earlier work but then I guess it
is vice-versa to a degree. It's a little like the polls on who is the
best/worst singer or lyricist or guitarist etc
There are a few singers in prog which I personally think struggle to
even sing in tune through a whole song let alone an album but they are
reverred by others as virtual master singers so with music 'beauty is
really in the ear of the beholder'. In fact prog listeners are in some
ways comparable to jazz officianados because some people love
traditional and hate modern or acid jazz etc
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richardh
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Posted: June 26 2005 at 05:09 |
I like Tormato although it lacks direction and focus.The individual tracks are good ,but overall lacking.
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russellk
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Posted: June 26 2005 at 05:12 |
Very nice record, some odd sounds by Wakeman
with his experimental birotron thingy, but the last
album on which Squire's bass reigns. Pity, that.
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Moogtron III
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Posted: June 26 2005 at 05:14 |
Great album. Future Times: Rejoice especially, but also On The Silent Wings... and Onward and... and...
Great drumming too. Yes was still an innovating band.
Not an album that deserves to be bashed at all.
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The Hemulen
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Posted: June 26 2005 at 06:01 |
Some good tunes, some apalling ones. The very nasty keyboard sounds
courtesy of Wakeman's (thankfully shortlived) Birotron and a general
move to a more accessible style make it hugely disappointing, and
tracks like "Circus of Heaven" are unspeakable filth that should never
have been permitted to be recorded. The first side's not so bad, I
suppose.
Never cared for "On the Silent Wings of Freedom" though. Don't know why.
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Losendos
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Posted: June 26 2005 at 06:35 |
The late 70s were getting disappointing after the golden era of the early 70s. Tormato is not a bad album but it is not the best output from Yes and not as good as it's predecessor.
Actually I think the downfall of rock and roll was when they introduced drum machines about this time. It took all the heart out of the music. Yes are from the days when one had to learn an instrument by practising it. Ravi Shankar used to worship his sitar. I am a cook (1200 meals a week ). It is by touch not by machine.
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How wonderful to be so profound
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 26 2005 at 07:12 |
WillieThePimp wrote:
Everyone seems to pick on this album almost as much as Big Generator. Why? |
I like them both, always have, so its not me picking on them!
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Salmacis72
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Posted: June 26 2005 at 09:31 |
I think it's great with the glaring exception of two of the worst songs they've ever done: "Circus Of Heaven" and "Arriving UFO'. Otherwise, lots of great material on it!
But Wakey made a huge mistake with that birotron - yuck.
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Litl
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Posted: June 26 2005 at 10:24 |
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 26 2005 at 10:29 |
Salmacis72 wrote:
I think it's great with the glaring exception of two of the worst songs they've ever done: "Circus Of Heaven" and "Arriving UFO'. Otherwise, lots of great material on it!
But Wakey made a huge mistake with that birotron - yuck.
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Believe it or not Arriving UFO was my favourite song for a long time. It's just so joyous!
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Posted: June 26 2005 at 10:35 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Salmacis72 wrote:
I think it's great with the glaring exception of two of the worst songs they've ever done: "Circus Of Heaven" and "Arriving UFO'. Otherwise, lots of great material on it!
But Wakey made a huge mistake with that birotron - yuck.
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Believe it or not Arriving UFO was my favourite song for a long time. It's just so joyous!
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Add Circus Of Heaven to that also snow dog, Onwards and Silent Wings Of Freedom are my least favourite songs of the album. surely Future times, don't kill the whale are among my favourite Yes songs 
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WillieThePimp
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Posted: June 26 2005 at 11:40 |
I love don't kill the whale, changed my perspective on whales as a whole!
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You can't possibly hear the last movement of Beethoven's Seventh and go slow. ~Oscar Levant, explaining his way out of a speeding ticket
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MorgothSunshine
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Posted: June 26 2005 at 12:13 |
You are a kind of YES omnivorous if you say Tormato is a nice album!
It's only a second-rate album. Fragile is a very nice album not Tormato!!!
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For every truth even the contrary is true...
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laztraz
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Posted: June 26 2005 at 12:17 |
I haven't listened to Tormato in awhile but I've always thought that Don't Kill the Whales is one of their best pop songs.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 26 2005 at 12:21 |
MorgothSunshine wrote:
You are a kind of YES omnivorous if you say Tormato is a nice album!
It's only a second-rate album. Fragile is a very nice album not Tormato!!!
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Hey I like Yes, so what? I would say Fragile was a great album, not nice!
Perhapps I'm Yes Carniverous?
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WillieThePimp
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Posted: June 26 2005 at 12:36 |
So what would make a yes herbivore? I could see that in ELP with "brain
salad surgery" haha, but then again that'd make you an omnivore.
Hmmm... maybe I should get a failed joke counter myself.
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You can't possibly hear the last movement of Beethoven's Seventh and go slow. ~Oscar Levant, explaining his way out of a speeding ticket
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