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    Posted: November 30 2024 at 00:56
Let's dive into the possible link that makes the late 1960s U.S. psychedelic rock and Krautrock, also called kosmische Musik, which was developed in then West Germany in the 1970s. An avant-garde yet psychedelic movement such as Krautrock and its bands like Can, Guru Guru, Cluster, Neu!, and La Düsseldorf tried to break free from the usual rock structures, while U.S. psychedelia was deeply indebted to the counterculture, with bands like The Doors, The United States of America, The Grateful Dead, and Lothar and the Hand People entering new dimensions through extended jams and experimental sounds.
Krautrock is overall typified by trippy, repetitious rhythms, electronic tones, often cosmic ambience, and a general tendency towards improvisation.
U.S. psychedelic rock features lush harmonies personalised by hypnotic jamming, surreal lyrics, as well as some experimental techniques such as reverb, and so forth. Are there any possible similarities? How could the attributes affect each other?
What are the possible similarities? In what way could the characteristics really have influenced each other? Did some 70s Krautrock artists incorporate elements of American psychedelic rock from the 60s?
How did they reflect social change?
What are the essential discographies in this cross-section of two psychedelic genres?
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When I listen to early Pink Floyd with Syd Barrett I hear Sci-Fi influenced television themes briefly repeated under a verse and chorus which extends into schizo type jamming. Syd Barrett was obviously influenced by AMMM MUSIC.

When I start playing my Krautrock collection around the house I begin noticing chord progressions and sounds that Syd Barrett and early Floyd would have used on Piper. Not so much the whimsical stuff ..but the Space Rock invention itself.

Syd Barrett was not a virtuoso player by any means..but he was innovative for creating styles in Europe that had an impact on other bands.

Some of the early Daevid Allen songs off the first 6 Gong albums are obviously influenced by Syd Barrett's more whimsical and childish poetic approach.

I can see how American Psychedelic would have influenced Krautrock musicians however members of Amon Duul persisted in saying that they didn't want to sound American 🤔...nor did they desire to sound English...but they probably did anyway and it may be difficult to analyze just how.

The song "Lather" by Jefferson Airplane reminds me of an early Pink Floyd song or a Barrett song. If you just replace Grace Slick's vocal with Syd Barrett or Roger Waters it's telling...or perhaps it's a coincidence ?
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THE COSMIC JOKERS      They're cosmic! Tripping the light fantastic with one of the best-known Krautrock supergroups, which included such notable members as Klaus Schulze and Manuel Goettsching (Ash Ra Tempel) and with five cosmic albums to their name. The five albums were assembled and released all in one incredible year by label boss "The Kaiser" without the performers' knowledge - and that's no joke! Geek

 4 stars 1974: The Cosmic Jokers - The Cosmic Jokers - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzJhoAXLmjM
 4 stars 1974: The Cosmic Jokers - Galactic Supermarket - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVo_cS_XdL8
 4 stars 1974: The Cosmic Jokers - Planeten Sit-In - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUh_kC28e0g
 4 stars 1974: The Cosmic Jokers - Sci-Fi Party - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPZSCQ26J30
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Hi,

I stand by both, and am awfully fond of them, and their material, which has stood out time very well ... with perhaps one issue ... the German version is more appreciated, than the American version that went on to be trashed by the media, and eventually thought to not be important, and overly infatuated with themselves ... probably (my thought) because a lot of their material was more "direct" in terms of politics, which created a lot of friction and problems in the media ... at the very least, in Europe (maybe not England ... ) there was a much wider respect for the arts, and music was accepted a lot more, specially when it started to sell, and the German companies stopped asking for schlagger and ignore the money that could be made from their own groups ... however, by the time that took place, it was already slimmed down to a smaller list of groups.

The hatred, and the media attention to the "psychedelia" days in America, were really hard to deal with, and by the time that Altamont came down, the majority of the scene was going down hill, with the Jefferson Airplane bloodied on the stage ... and the media just about said ... well deserved ... and the bad part of it all is probably that America did not have a real publication to help the music, not to mention that what took place in the West Coast was laughed at and ignored in the East Coast, and vice versa, and then you had to deal with Nashville, completely separate, and all of a sudden the southern bands come up big time. 

America, showed itself to be ... 4 different countries, at least, and this made it really tough all around ... but the lack of a real publication that was more serious about the music, and Rolling Stone in those days was not helpful and I still guess that there was some serious issues in publication, but their attention to the sleazy side of all things ... hurt it all, even worse.

"The Cosmic Jokers" is a sad story in some ways, but the worst part of it, is that because of the rip offs, none of it, if any, was thought to have valuable material ... and there were a lot of really fine things in it, that were always trashed and none of the musicians ever saw any money from them ... afaik ... which is really sad, but the romantic side of the whole thing had created some really far out things, even if some of them were a bit off key and weird. "Planeten Sit-In" is a fine album and some of the material was far out. The actual album "The Cosmic Jokers" was really good, and one side of it is an improvisation that is on par with AD2's MM Soundtrack from "Dance of the Lemmings" .... the touch and feel of the material was outstanding, and never has it been recognized ... as musically valid, or valued.

And thanks PP ... for the listing. Sadly, putting together a listing for the Americans, would be much more difficult, with the harsh divisions across the USA. And even worse, was the attention some bands got for trashing Neil Young, at a time, when the media thought all youngsters and students were trash ... and the music was meaningless ... which was something that was sort of forgotten and left behind, by the time FM radio hit the big stage going into 1972 and 1973 ... at least in the West Coast ... but still the "control" was in place of the media, as was evident as to what happened in LA a few years later ... that took a major station down over night and brought it back in the morning, on tape, and "new age" music. The lack of a music periodical to put down the folks that did such a massive thing, was never seen or bothered with ... by that time, RS was more interested in the "stars" and didn't care about the music!

The one band, that never quit, and continued, is the "soul" of the whole thing, even if a lot of folks don't specially like it, but they continued for many more years, and today, are more appreciated that ever, and still sell ... and one could say that it was their bootlegs, most of which came from their sound board with the band's blessing ... that kept them alive and appreciated. 

To this day, American music will not bother appreciating The Grateful Dead and its massive road and history. They DID, and WERE ... the very soul of that whole psychedelia thing and West Coast. And, as sad as this sounds, they never stopped playing!

Today, though, I'm not sure a definitive write up can be put together ... with the Internet as divisive as ever, and all over the place, with nothing to fight for, or appreciate, so it seems, except the almighty number one and the commercial standard.

So hard, and sad to write all this ... I wish I had studied the West Coast better, but it feels like the whole thing is so fractured, as to leave it no choice but to fall off and be ignored. Seeing this article, and desire ... is NICE, and all I can say is THANKS.


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I, for one, would attribute the influence of the New York City psychedelic electronic duo Silver Apples and their first two albums on Krautrock as the most significant of those influences that came from the United States in the late 1960s. Silver Apples innovative use of synthesisers, hypnotic grooves, and repetitive rhythms parallels Krautrock's avant-garde ethos.
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The good ol' Grateful Dead - the US band most referenced by Krautrockers as an inspiration.  Their omission on these pages is beyond bewildering.  
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Originally posted by Intruder Intruder wrote:

The good ol' Grateful Dead - the US band most referenced by Krautrockers as an inspiration.  Their omission on these pages is beyond bewildering.  


Well that’s something I didn’t know. Or even suspect.
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Originally posted by Valdez Valdez wrote:

Originally posted by Intruder Intruder wrote:

The good ol' Grateful Dead - the US band most referenced by Krautrockers as an inspiration.  Their omission on these pages is beyond bewildering.  


Well that’s something I didn’t know. Or even suspect.

Hi,

It's a rather difficult thought and idea ... but there is one thing that stands out in it, and you can see it on many live shows from the Grateful Dead. They take their time, and evolve the details in the music, very well, and sometimes, this is slow, and deliberate, but one is never going to find a moment where you can sit down and say that Bob Weir or Jerry Garcia just noodling around ... and wasting time ... they are doing something that classical music does, and that is ... allow the music to LIVE on its own, instead of being in a hurry to create a bridge, or switch to a solo, or a format that is used in commercial pop music ... which is something that the GD can NEVER be accused of, and that is one of the issues with a lot of folks, TODAY, not liking the GD ... besides the fact that the GD couldn't careless about folks that don't like them ... the history shows an incredible talent, and musicianship (see the Daily Doug do some of their things!!!) that the majority of bands that are listed in a top something or other do not exactly have, other than some more cookie cutting forms and ideas, with the solo at exactly the same place in 4 of the 5 pieces in their album! You won't EVER see that in the GD ... 

My thoughts are that the GD took their time, and great music relies on the ability of it to spread out and live and come around complete ... an idea that many prog-rock folks think can only be done with a format and "idea", that has very little to do with music itself in many hands! 

And "taking their time" is the worst thing in America and all commercial music ... and it is not a secret anywhere, when after almost 60 years, we STILL can only find listings for bands that do "cuts" and "singles" and (in general) their album is not about anything ... except ... we can really only think of it as "pop musik".

And this is the area that both psychedelia and krautrock wanted to get away from ... completely. In reality, it would/could only succeed in Europe, where music is better appreciated than another dollar for the commercial departments in America ... with one really bad side ... the folks that kiss up to the dollar making fun of the folks that are into the music, not the commercial side of it ... and this is the greatest difference about the GD, that will never be accepted by anyone, or any site, where the intent is the idea of commercialism, not the music itself!
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While the Velvet Underground wasn't a psychedelic band but an experimental/art rock group with just a hint of psychedelia here and there, this interview with Holger Czukay would definitely be a very interesting read!


What were Can's main influences from the world of rock, as opposed to classical and avant-garde?

Everybody a little bit different. But mainly I would say the influence, for me, of [the] Beatles and Velvet Underground was most important. The Velvet Underground especially. They had something achieved which others didn't achieve. Even Jimi Hendrix didn't achieve that. One could have the opinion that this group is not able to play really properly right. They didn't get the right rhythm, they couldn't make a real tight rhythm. But the music was incredibly convincing. And this feeling made us encouraged, actually, to go on with rock music in general, instead of, let's say, making avant-garde academic music. Academic music was somehow finished by the audiences. Not by the musical idea itself. But we liked to do something without notation. We didn't want to read music off papers. We really tried to make instant compositions from the very beginning. This Can tradition actually achieved [this] very much when we played live. /.../ An Interview With Holger Czukay
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KROKODIL     Snappy Swiss Krautrock that bites! Smile

4 stars 2020: Krokodil - An Invisible World Returns
3 stars 2021: Krokodil - Another Time

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Regarding the early 70s krautrock stuff that was obviously influenced by the psychedelic rock bands from the West Coast music scene, I would like to highlight "Krokodil Session, Part 1" and "Part 2" from the album "An Invisible World Revealed" by Swiss krautrock band Krokodil from 1971, which are particularly enjoyable, driving, jazz-rock numbers full of intricate instrumental lines that remind me a bit of the Grateful Dead's live psychedelic jams.




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Originally posted by GuruCan GuruCan wrote:

While the Velvet Underground wasn't a psychedelic band but an experimental/art rock group with just a hint of psychedelia here and there, this interview with Holger Czukay would definitely be a very interesting read!


What were Can's main influences from the world of rock, as opposed to classical and avant-garde?

Everybody a little bit different. But mainly I would say the influence, for me, of [the] Beatles and Velvet Underground was most important. The Velvet Underground especially. They had something achieved which others didn't achieve. Even Jimi Hendrix didn't achieve that. One could have the opinion that this group is not able to play really properly right. They didn't get the right rhythm, they couldn't make a real tight rhythm. But the music was incredibly convincing. And this feeling made us encouraged, actually, to go on with rock music in general, instead of, let's say, making avant-garde academic music. Academic music was somehow finished by the audiences. Not by the musical idea itself. But we liked to do something without notation. We didn't want to read music off papers. We really tried to make instant compositions from the very beginning. This Can tradition actually achieved [this] very much when we played live. /.../ An Interview With Holger Czukay
Can indeed was influenced by the Velvet Underground, and that can be heard especially on their debut album track "Father Cannot Yell."

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Originally posted by Starshiper Starshiper wrote:

Regarding the early 70s krautrock stuff that was obviously influenced by the psychedelic rock bands from the West Coast music scene, I would like to highlight "Krokodil Session, Part 1" and "Part 2" from the album "An Invisible World Revealed" by Swiss krautrock band Krokodil from 1971, which are particularly enjoyable, driving, jazz-rock numbers full of intricate instrumental lines that remind me a bit of the Grateful Dead's live psychedelic jams.





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Originally posted by GuruCan GuruCan wrote:

Originally posted by Starshiper Starshiper wrote:

Regarding the early 70s krautrock stuff that was obviously influenced by the psychedelic rock bands from the West Coast music scene, I would like to highlight "Krokodil Session, Part 1" and "Part 2" from the album "An Invisible World Revealed" by Swiss krautrock band Krokodil from 1971, which are particularly enjoyable, driving, jazz-rock numbers full of intricate instrumental lines that remind me a bit of the Grateful Dead's live psychedelic jams.





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One of those U.S. artists that certainly influenced the Krautrock movement is also Sun Ra, although he wasn't psychedelic rock but a cosmic jazz genius. Here is a 27-minute-long title track from Sun Ra and his Arkestra's 1966 album "The Magic City."

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Originally posted by Starshiper Starshiper wrote:

One of those U.S. artists that certainly influenced the Krautrock movement is also Sun Ra, although he wasn't psychedelic rock but a cosmic jazz genius. Here is a 27-minute-long title track from Sun Ra and his Arkestra's 1966 album "The Magic City."

Absolutely! Even though Sun Ra and krautrock bands like Can come from different musical backgrounds—jazz and rock, respectively—the adventurous vibe in tracks like Aumgn really resonates with the spirit of Sun Ra's spacey yet avant-garde sound!

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 driving, jazz-rock numbers full of intricate instrumental lines that remind me a bit of the Grateful Dead's live psychedelic jams.
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Hi,

My feeling is that PA does not seem to like the meandering and slower material in its musical development. And, of course, the GD is too good on that, and not interested in the commercial/format kind of music out there that we see in the top lists here.

Thus, the idea that instrumental lines, that often border on improvisation and experimentation, is something that the "idea" of "progressive" music, or "progrock" can not accept, and thus, a site like PA, will end up leaving behind a band that influenced so many folks ... 

There is something very strange and maybe even weird in Holger's comments quoted here ... he is appreciating the idea/fact that the VU was not "musically driven", but in many ways more taken by the moment, and free forms. The GD, were not musically "driven" in the sense that you would not have designed or created a lot of their LIVE moments on stage at all ... and it is strange that Holger will say that about the music not being academic minded (designed and composed), when their own group, other than Damo, were some of the best educated folks musically in Germany! Only the folks surrounded around Peter Michael Hamel, probably had more education.

The GD, was not something that could be defined in any academic sense ... and seeing DD do their pieces, you can hear him appreciating a lot of moments in their music ... that are not something that is "standard" in most rock music at all. In fact, most of the rock notables with some education, could be said to have quit school ... RW, KE and many others ... who figured out quickly enough that bands really needed a good keyboard player, not just one household organ in the mix.

It's weird to consider some of the longer instrumental pieces as psychedelic or whatever other designation ... I suppose that the 2 long cuts from TAGO MAGO would fit that description, but I don't think that the GD has anything that fits in that area at all ... the GD, in my book, was not, a total free form, who cares, experimental outfit, as CAN was in their earlier days, even taking on a member that did not do "music" at all ... and were able to make some outstanding material with it ... I think the mix worked well at first, until it was over, and nothing new could be made, and CAN probably felt that they were done screwing around in the studio ... and magically come up with long pieces from over 20 hours of tapes, per Holger. I don't think that the GD, EVER went on stage thinking that this time ... one piece ... was going to go on for 40 minutes! 

In essence, for websites like PA, and song minded folks in the last 20/30 years, are not ear-tuned to improvisation and experimentation ... even when one band out of the blue shows up and everyone thinks they are as good as sliced bread. All of a sudden, the odd album/band is listed, but next to the 10 things before it and 10 pieces behind it ... what the fudge is that doing here?

This is the reason why I would like to see the definition of "progressive" and then "progrock" cleaned up ... so many of the elements that came with it, are also included ... weird to see "improvisation" left behind, when in the late 60's it was the thing to do ... other than pop music, of course, that AM radio thought was pompous, and too fat of itself, on the FM dial. Weirder yet is how much improvisation was done at the Fillmore in the early days, and how little of it, we have heard ... most of it, was killed off by the record industry ... and it is strange/weird that there are no recordings of these things ... and guess where the GD fans were so valuable? The bootlegs had it all ... that had been hidden and destroyed everywhere else. And it survived ... to the point that we think it didn't happen at all, and in the GD ... we fell asleep!

One can only hope that time brings on folks that are more acquainted with music, and its history, not a really poor definition of "progressive" being considered important ... and actually ignoring so much of the music out there and the very folks plying it that deserve the credit, and will never get it ... ohh my ... the life of an artist ... add insult to injury ... why not ... another dead dog! Wink A la Salvador Dali, too! Tongue


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The 13th Floor Elevators were an iconic garage band from Texas that played a pivotal role in shaping psychedelic rock, thanks to their innovative use of the ‘electric jug’ and their focus on creating an immersive vibe rather than just sticking to catchy melodies. Their mind-bending, philosophy-infused lyrics add another layer of complexity that really makes you think. The 13th Floor Elevators might even be considered early U.S. predecessors of the Krautrock movement due to the groundbreaking sonic explorations they undertook.

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The 13th Floor Elevators were an iconic garage band from Texas that played a pivotal role in shaping psychedelic rock, thanks to their innovative use of the ‘electric jug’ and their focus on creating an immersive vibe rather than just sticking to catchy melodies.
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Nice stuff, although, sadly, it was mostly short cuts, as if wanting to look for more radio, which was vital at the time. 

I, sort of ... always thought of the psychedelia and krautrock as a special thing that broke apart the limits of "songs", by having material that was extended, and took us on a "trip", something that a song based band would not exactly be able to do very well, I don't think. In this sense, the European stuff was more classically minded, whereas this particular version was more "radio" minded, so to speak. On the 2nd album they did have a couple of longer pieces, but I had the thought, while listening, that they were not suited for extended material ... so it seemed.

Nice to see things "found" in America, since so much of it was not open because of the radio controls at the time, remembering that most radio stations were owned by the same folks that owned the movie studios, and this is where FM broke the mold ... most of it, at the start, was completely independent, and this was what helped all kinds of new music come alive in the later side of the 60's, which is what brought -- eventually -- what we consider "progressive" music.

I think there were others, and in the midwest, the music scene was very much alive ... and they got bigger and better with the new FM radio stations, that allowed for their material to be longer and not just a 3 minute song for the AM radio thing of before.

I always thought that the Fillmore and Avalon, were more for "tripping", than a bunch of "songs" which, would appear to make bands like this not be as valuable and important. One look at the Monterey thing, and then the following stuff ... and the music is already following longer examples, than simply 2 or 3 minutes.

Interesting time, but the differences are there. As I mentioned before, at least in Europe there was an artistic appreciation for things, and "krautrock" was not just a music thing at all ... it was also alive in theater, and film, and literature ... something that we seem to not like to look at ... whereas in America, the media did not exactly look at a lot of these things as important, and it took a few films, and then some, to help make it all more visible, where otherwise it might have been hidden ... for its politics ... but in the end, it was doomed to be another "Easy Rider" ... blown apart in the end ... that's the media in those days, and still to this day, that time is not given the artistic appreciation that it rightly deserves ... your addition to this thread is fantastic, and thank you.


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The 13th Floor Elevators were an iconic garage band from Texas that played a pivotal role in shaping psychedelic rock, thanks to their innovative use of the ‘electric jug’ and their focus on creating an immersive vibe rather than just sticking to catchy melodies. Their mind-bending, philosophy-infused lyrics add another layer of complexity that really makes you think. The 13th Floor Elevators might even be considered early U.S. predecessors of the Krautrock movement due to the groundbreaking sonic explorations they undertook.

THE 13TH FLOOR ELEVATORS    The Psychedelic Sounds of the 13th Floor Elevators - released in October 1966 - was one of the earliest Psychedelic Rock albums, preceded only by Jefferson Airplane who took flight with their first album just two months earlier. The 13th Floor Elevators WERE the first band to describe their music as Psychedelic Rock though. The name of the band from Austin Texas derives from the fact that many skyscrapers in the United States don't have a 13th floor because it's thought to be unlucky. It could be entirely coincidental, but "M" (for marijuana) is also the 13th letter of the alphabet. Staying on the subject of high-rise buildings, and why not, the 68th floor of Trump Tower in New York City is actually 58 stories high, partly due to the five story glass atrium, but mainly because not only is there no 13th floor in Trump Tower, but there's no 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th or 12th floor either, making the building seem ten stories higher than it really is. That's a tall story if ever there was one. Smile

 5 stars 1966: 13th Floor Elevators - The Psychedelic Sounds of the 13th Floor Elevators - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiN-7mukU_RHffmSQiUY-wrIPJJu5Ppzn
 4 stars 1967: 13th Floor Elevators - Easter Everywhere - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lcWRl-XU4UIQebKkY79bJZrAeGzfJ-CTs
 2 stars 1968: 13th Floor Elevators - 13th Floor Elevators Live - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lH6LxLZSSGvJQRgJLii9bOTvViyMDArA0
 3 stars 1969: 13th Floor Elevators - Bull of the Woods - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mngSr0KwETYvFZOqsJtTX9SXIe31AV2EU
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