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    Posted: 2 hours 27 minutes ago at 03:20
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Other than the bands impressive ability to continue making original music from almost nothing, UW continues to remind of how prosaic & disheartened much 80s progrock was.   Tough times.

Agreed. Regarding JT, I think they fell off a cliff after Glasscock died and Ian fired Barriemore Barlow, John Evan and Dee Palmer. They never were the same. But then, I feel exactly the same about Genesis after Steve Hackett left, and the pop conglomeration that was Yes in the 1980s.


Yeah, Tull should've definitely packed it in after Stormwatch .... which sounded tired anyways. The  only OK post-SW albums being Crest and Branches. 

Genesis' first two Hackett-less albums were still worthy, IMHO, but starting from Abacrap....
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Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Other than the bands impressive ability to continue making original music from almost nothing, UW continues to remind of how prosaic & disheartened much 80s progrock was.   Tough times.


Mmm.. it was of its time and that was pretty grim.. and IA's obsession with spying and cold war intrigue didnt help to make the atmosphere any less chilly. At least it's not as bad as IA's solo effort 'Walk into light'....


I like WIL lol
Now that I’m hearing UW remixed with different drum sample I feel Tull were similar strength all the way through to 84. Genius Ian. They dropped off in late 80s though
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Other than the bands impressive ability to continue making original music from almost nothing, UW continues to remind of how prosaic & disheartened much 80s progrock was.   Tough times.

Mmm.. it was of its time and that was pretty grim.. and IA's obsession with spying and cold war intrigue didnt help to make the atmosphere any less chilly. At least it's not as bad as IA's solo effort 'Walk into light'....

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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Other than the bands impressive ability to continue making original music from almost nothing, UW continues to remind of how prosaic & disheartened much 80s progrock was.   Tough times.

Agreed. Regarding JT, I think they fell off a cliff after Glasscock died and Ian fired Barriemore Barlow, John Evan and Dee Palmer. They never were the same. But then, I feel exactly the same about Genesis after Steve Hackett left, and the pop conglomeration that was Yes in the 1980s.
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Other than the bands impressive ability to continue making original music from almost nothing, UW continues to remind of how prosaic & disheartened much 80s progrock was.   Tough times.
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This album has gone from rags to riches. The songs are quite good now that I can listen to them lol
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He's always been a perfectly adequate, even good, rock singer, but doesn't approach the athletic & elastic capabilities of a Mercury, a Plant, or even an Osbourne.   


John Osbourne, the same guy who sounded like a novice compared to his successor in that one band?
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He's always been a perfectly adequate, even good, rock singer, but doesn't approach the athletic & elastic capabilities of a Mercury, a Plant, or even an Osbourne.   

I actually prefer his voice and range over the others. Mercury had the strongest voice of course but I don’t really like Queen. I don’t like Plants squealy voice. Ozzy I like. Ian always had a cool sounding voice up until 87. He changed it every year though. Thought he sounded a bit thin in 75-76. Arthur Brown was probably the king vocalist all round
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He's always been a perfectly adequate, even good, rock singer, but doesn't approach the athletic & elastic capabilities of a Mercury, a Plant, or even an Osbourne.   
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Edited by dr prog - November 27 2024 at 16:41
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Ian sounds amazing here
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 Jon Anderson?   A smurf.

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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

^ And he's never had a great voice.   One's favorite is not indicative of greatness.


Ian's vocals throughout the '70s (and the early '80s) were superb. His style, timbre and quirk more than compensate for his limitations. He sounds like a mountain man who stumbled onto a band who kept him on. Then he blew his voice out, and since then he sounds solid on most of the studio recordings, but only "fair to middlin'" live.


Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

On the other hand, very few singers in prog have had great voices---   Lake? Boyish and immature.   Jon Anderson?   A smurf.   Wetton?   No way.   Gabriel had the most mature voice with a good range of tone, and lyrics as well.


To me, Gabriel is just alright. The music of his solo albums better suits his singing than Genesis (and Phil's by far a better vocalist).

Wetton and Lake were both great singers in the '70s, and while certain vices affected their performances in the subsequent decades, Wetton's pipes weathered a lot better. But with King Crimson, Uriah Heep and UK, I don't see how anyone can't rate Wetton as a singer.

But when it comes to '70s prog with an outstanding vocalist, Steve Walsh is way ahead of all of them.
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Di Giacomo another goodie
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^ Exactly, mostly non-Prog, hard rock or Pop artists.   It's always been that way, just the nature of the beast I guess--- F. Mercury, R. Plant, E. John, CS&N, great voices.   Not Prog.
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

^ And he's never had a great voice.   One's favorite is not indicative of greatness.

On the other hand, very few singers in prog have had great voices---   Lake? Boyish and immature.   Jon Anderson?   A smurf.   Wetton?   No way.   Gabriel had the most mature voice with a good range of tone, and lyrics as well.





I find Gabriel the least interesting lol
I like other singers such as ozzy, gillan, dio, brown, sinclair, hammill etc
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^ And he's never had a great voice.   One's favorite is not indicative of greatness.

On the other hand, very few singers in prog have had great voices---   Lake? Boyish and immature.   Jon Anderson?   A smurf.   Wetton?   No way.   Gabriel had the most mature voice with a good range of tone, and lyrics as well.





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