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Haken's lyrics occasionally address societal challenges, particularly in albums like 'Vector.'




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I think Every Bloody Emperor can be added to the VDGG section.
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Originally posted by Snikle Snikle wrote:

I think Every Bloody Emperor can be added to the VDGG section.

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Originally posted by GuruCan GuruCan wrote:

Haken's lyrics occasionally address societal challenges, particularly in albums like 'Vector.'

Vector looks to me to be a socially-engaged concept album, alright, but also to be a Metal album.

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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Yes - "Roundabout", Fragile (1971)

In John J. Sheinbaum's opinion, as stated in his article "Progressive Rock and the Inversion of Musical Values", this Yes song can be interpreted as:
"The nature imagery troughout the song, with its references to mountains, lakes, and valeys, suggests (as in much progressive rock) the pastoral utopia of a time long ago, which stands in contrast to the dehumanizing technology of modern society."

(as published in the book Progressive Rock Reconsidered (2002, p. 38) edited by Kevin Holm-Hudson)
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Anyone trying to interpret Anderson lyrics is on a wild goose chase.

I still think that John J. Sheinbaum, as being a musicologist, has very good qualifications for a reasonnable interpretation, and which has been published as a scientific article - but of course, he doesn't have to be right.

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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by GuruCan GuruCan wrote:

Haken's lyrics occasionally address societal challenges, particularly in albums like 'Vector.'
Vector looks to me to be a socially-engaged concept album, alright, but also to be a Metal album.


So because it's a progressive metal album, it does not count, or lacks credibility, or what?! Wacko

There are a ton of metal bands that tackle social issues, corruption and politics. But i guess, no credibility because... metal... Dead
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^ As the thread title says, this thread is about "major Progressive Rock", and that is meant stricktly defined. And btw, in your opinion, Metal is something different than Rock, isn't that correct?
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


^ As the thread title says, this thread is about "major Progressive Rock", and that is meant stricktly defined. And btw, in your opinion, Metal is something different than Rock, isn't that correct?

Not what you said. You are saying progressive metal does not belong in the discussion, a very dismissive statement, for a prog subgenre that has been around since the 80s. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


^ As the thread title says, this thread is about "major Progressive Rock", and that is meant stricktly defined. And btw, in your opinion, Metal is something different than Rock, isn't that correct?

Not what you said. You are saying progressive metal does not belong in the discussion, a very dismissive statement, for a prog subgenre that has been around since the 80s. 
Some socially-engaged major Progressive Metal, courtesy of Porcupine Tree. Smile 

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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


^ As the thread title says, this thread is about "major Progressive Rock", and that is meant stricktly defined. And btw, in your opinion, Metal is something different than Rock, isn't that correct?
No, it isn't correct. You should have pointed that out in your opening post, e.g., "Please don't post metal bands." The way you opened the topic, my mentioning of Haken's 'Vector,' is legitimate.
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Some socially-engaged major Progressive Metal [Fear of Blank Planet], courtesy of Porcupine Tree. Smile 

That's definitely socially-engaged major album, which I also will consider as Progressive Rock.

And here's what Wikipedia writes about it:

"The lyrics of the album deal with some common behaviour tendencies concerning society, especially youth, in the beginning of the 21st century, such as bipolar disorderattention deficit disorderdrug abuse, alienation,[36] and deprivation caused by mass media.[37] The concept of the album was inspired by Bret Easton Ellis novel Lunar Park[38] and the title alludes to Public Enemy's album, Fear of a Black Planet, both sharing the particularity of reflecting notorious conflicts affecting society in the world at some time. Wilson notes that whilst race relationship was the main issue among young people when Public Enemy's album was released, it was replaced in the 21st century by a general superficiality, boredom, and introversion.[39] The album features contributions from Rush's Alex Lifeson and King Crimson's Robert Fripp.

Wilson: "My fear is that the current generation of kids who're being born into this information revolution, growing up with the Internet, cell phones, iPods, this download culture, 'American Idol,' reality TV, prescription drugs, PlayStations—all of these things kind of distract people from what's important about life, which is to develop a sense of curiosity about what's out there.""

( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porcupine_Tree#Fear_of_a_Blank_Planet )


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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Some socially-engaged major Progressive Metal [Fear of Blank Planet ], courtesy of Porcupine Tree. Smile 

That's definitely socially-engaged major album, which I also will consider as Progressive Rock.

And here's what Wikipedia writes about it:

"The lyrics of the album deal with some common behaviour tendencies concerning society, especially youth, in the beginning of the 21st century, such as bipolar disorderattention deficit disorderdrug abuse, alienation,[36] and deprivation caused by mass media.[37] The concept of the album was inspired by Bret Easton Ellis novel Lunar Park[38] and the title alludes to Public Enemy's album, Fear of a Black Planet, both sharing the particularity of reflecting notorious conflicts affecting society in the world at some time. Wilson notes that whilst race relationship was the main issue among young people when Public Enemy's album was released, it was replaced in the 21st century by a general superficiality, boredom, and introversion.[39] The album features contributions from Rush's Alex Lifeson and King Crimson's Robert Fripp.

Wilson: "My fear is that the current generation of kids who're being born into this information revolution, growing up with the Internet, cell phones, iPods, this download culture, 'American Idol,' reality TV, prescription drugs, PlayStations—all of these things kind of distract people from what's important about life, which is to develop a sense of curiosity about what's out there.""

( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porcupine_Tree#Fear_of_a_Blank_Planet )

But the Internet, PlayStation and the information revolution ARE what's important in life - at least to me anyhow. Tongue
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