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Sean Trane wrote:

Just like Dave Gilmour pseudo-Floyd solo Permanent Lapse Of Reason, you can update the 80's atrocious sonics all you want(to no avail), the album will remain bad, because the songwriting is really weak.

There is maybe one UW track that would find a spot on either A or Tb&TB

Ditto for AMLOR, only the opening instrumental would find a spot on either TFC or TDB.

I’ll have it fairly even with A now with this production. Ian never sang better

All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.

The Dark Elf wrote:

dr prog wrote:

Ian never sang better

By any quantitative or qualitative measure, that statement is strictly delusional if you are referring to Under Wraps. Unless, of course, you prefer croaking to actual singing -- you know, like on Stand Up, Aqualung, Minstrel in the Gallery, or any album before Ian blew out his vocal chords.

Don’t like his voice much on minstrel. I think you need to listen to those remixes lol

All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.

The Dark Elf wrote:

dr prog wrote:

The Dark Elf wrote:

dr prog wrote:

Ian never sang better

By any quantitative or qualitative measure, that statement is strictly delusional if you are referring to Under Wraps. Unless, of course, you prefer croaking to actual singing -- you know, like on Stand Up, Aqualung, Minstrel in the Gallery, or any album before Ian blew out his vocal chords.

Don’t like his voice much on minstrel. I think you need to listen to those remixes lol

I'm certain you don't know what you're talking about lol

Just because you love minstrel and I don’t lol.
Overrated imo

All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.

Atavachron wrote:

^ Minstrel is a great hard-prog album by any standard.

His voice? Anderson has never had a great voice, a bit strained and nasopharyngeal.

He’s one of my fave vocalists of the 70s and early 80s. Probably is my fave.

All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.

Atavachron wrote:

^ And he's never had a great voice. One's favorite is not indicative of greatness.

On the other hand, very few singers in prog have had great voices--- Lake? Boyish and immature. Jon Anderson? A smurf. Wetton? No way. Gabriel had the most mature voice with a good range of tone, and lyrics as well.

I find Gabriel the least interesting lol
I like other singers such as ozzy, gillan, dio, brown, sinclair, hammill etc

All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.

Di Giacomo another goodie

All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.

Atavachron wrote:

^ And he's never had a great voice. One's favorite is not indicative of greatness.

Ian's vocals throughout the '70s (and the early '80s) were superb. His style, timbre and quirk more than compensate for his limitations. He sounds like a mountain man who stumbled onto a band who kept him on. Then he blew his voice out, and since then he sounds solid on most of the studio recordings, but only "fair to middlin'" live.

Atavachron wrote:

On the other hand, very few singers in prog have had great voices--- Lake? Boyish and immature. Jon Anderson? A smurf. Wetton? No way. Gabriel had the most mature voice with a good range of tone, and lyrics as well.

To me, Gabriel is just alright. The music of his solo albums better suits his singing than Genesis (and Phil's by far a better vocalist).

Wetton and Lake were both great singers in the '70s, and while certain vices affected their performances in the subsequent decades, Wetton's pipes weathered a lot better. But with King Crimson, Uriah Heep and UK, I don't see how anyone can't rate Wetton as a singer.

But when it comes to '70s prog with an outstanding vocalist, Steve Walsh is way ahead of all of them.

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Ian sounds amazing here

All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.

He's always been a perfectly adequate, even good, rock singer, but doesn't approach the athletic & elastic capabilities of a Mercury, a Plant, or even an Osbourne.

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Atavachron wrote:

He's always been a perfectly adequate, even good, rock singer, but doesn't approach the athletic & elastic capabilities of a Mercury, a Plant, or even an Osbourne.

John Osbourne, the same guy who sounded like a novice compared to his successor in that one band?

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