Miles Davis: the greatest prog artist of all-time? |
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Saperlipopette!
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I voted for both Maybe.* and *His music certainly pushed boundaries that led to prog. Both true in a sense. But Miles can't be reduced to a label like prog. As both a once in a generation* kind of genius and a unsympathetic douche, he is supposed to have said while as a guest at the white house:
"Few of the guests appeared to know who he was. During dinner, Nancy Reagan turned to him and asked what he'd done with his life to merit an invitation. Well, I've changed the course of music five or six times. What have you done except f**k the president?" *except that in his generation of artists there were many |
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richardh
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Not a prog artist and not as great as Keith Emerson!
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chopper
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A legend of music but clearly a jazz musician. Certainly progressive in his field but not prog - there's a difference.
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Disconnect
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Influential? Check.
Ability to consistently surround himself with the finest players? Check. Great songwriter/arranger? Highly debatable. It's well-documented he would take compositions by his band members and literally change one or two chord movements....then claim it was entirely his work. Greatest artist of all time? Um....how could someone who was never among the best trumpet/cornet players (his own instrument) be in the running for greatest artist of all time? I could name at least a dozen trumpet/cornet players who were/are far superior to him in terms of technique. He had his own style, for sure. He was more known for NOT playing notes than playing notes when compared to contemporaries. Overrated? No. Despite my above comments, I do love Miles' work. But I'm able to regard him objectively because I happen to carry around a huge amount of useless knowledge relating to the history and evolution of jazz in my head.
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Grumpyprogfan
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^Most excellent post.
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mellotronwave
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Definitely not indeed !
Nevertheless being a prog fan does not prevent you (me, us) from appreciating all or part of the his huge work (because that’s what it comes back to) by Miles Davis! |
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Floydoid
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Nope, not prog rock by any stretch of the imagination.
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Logan
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Really love various Miles Davis albums, a personal fave, and while I support his "electric Miles" period albums in Prog Archives JR/F category, I do not consider him to be "Prog". Recognising this is for fun, I don't know which poll options would come closest. Lots of albums I love, but I don't think he's the genius some do (and he could be very full of himself) and it was those he collaborated that did bring so much as mentioned. I was in youth orchestra as a trumpeter, and while I do not seem as some kind of virtuoso, his style works for the music. Since Keith Emerson was mentioned as greater, who I think does get overrated by some too, to me he would be better compared to Davis collaborator Gil Evans I think, and I do think that Gil Evans is greater than Emerson in music generally.
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