Miles Davis: the greatest prog artist of all-time? |
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BrufordFreak
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Posted: November 23 2024 at 06:44 |
Just for fun, you know, you know. Now that Collapse is REALLY immanent, we need a little more fun.
(For those of you with no time for jocularity, I apologize and recede quietly into the night.) (The same way I got here.) Oh, and, yes: Multiple votes are encouraged! Edited by BrufordFreak - November 23 2024 at 06:45 |
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Grumpyprogfan
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I like Miles, most during his Bop phase. As an overall trumpet player, I prefer Lee Morgan.
Anyway, not as great as Holdsworth or Peart but more popular. Please tell us more about the collapse. |
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moshkito
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Hi,
The sad part of this Poll is that it makes it look like MD was all about a bunch of songs, and not the incredible original artist that he was. MD is more valuable in the 1960's for having added an individuality that was not there in music ... where as AH is at least 10 years later, and he was only a part of the development of several guitar materials, as opposed to the time and place that MD did his work. Polls like this are fun, but in my book, sometimes take the music out of its context ... and all of a sudden considering MD just another guitar player (... you know what I mean!) is not what MD did, or was about. MD made many a guitarist going crazy possible, unless we think that eventually that would come to pass, anyway. But it didn't ... it took MD and many others that were free lancing like crazy to show us what could be done with music ... and rock music, was almost 10 years BEHIND ... MD ... In terms of the history of the music, MD holds a place that so few others will EVER come close to ... unless we look at it all as just a bunch of songs for the radio ... in which case MD's material gets, mostly ignored, because some folks don't like his arrays to the kitchen, garage, football field, stars, studio and every where else we can think of! ... you see ... the riff gets lost in it ... (hehehe!)
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Psychedelic Paul
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No. He's not even prog.
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moshkito
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Hi, As an artist that advanced the way and style that was about music AT THE TIME, MD is not only progressive, he is way ahead of his time compared to others. In a music history course, with the various time periods listed, in the sequence of things, MD would not only be progressive, he would be an originator like so few others! But if you look at it, vua the lens of PA's definition, then MD is not prog, and never will be, but then ... that definition is not about music and its history .... at all!
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Cristi
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He's one of the greatest artists of all time.
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Option #4. He came close on Kind of Blue, but I favour Dave Brubeck at that point. Yet he may be the greatest jazz artist, as seen through eyes that are placed in the skull of a proghead. I remember that he was widely acclaimed by the prog community back in the 1980's.
Option #17 is equally fine. Prog entered the USA relatively late and Magma was still to come at the time Kind of Blue was released. Edited by someone_else - November 23 2024 at 08:40 |
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moshkito
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Hi, I think, today (!!!!!), that DB was more "melodic" and far easier to handle and listen to than what MD did in a lot of his concerts. His work, was not exactly about "melody" in the 1960's ... and that is something that takes a very different ear to get adjusted to ... and at the time, a lot of jazz, specially the early experimental stuff out of Europe, was completely opposite the "melody" ideal, which has ... sadly ... been relegated to "pop music" and not much else. Jazz, originally, or at least it seems to me, was more about being very different from the current music stuff at the time, classical music and pop music, until the late 1960's when a bunch of "easy listening" folks showed up doing some jazzy things ... that probably would not be considered "jazz" 10 years before. One other slight detail ... DB could be said to be about a "riff" ... I'm not sure that we will find that MD was stuck on a riff, or an idea ... he moved from that moment once he played some of it, thus, effectively breaking the pattern into ... yeah ... sometimes I think there was no pattern at all!
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Welcome to the middle of the film.
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Octopus II
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No.
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No.
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https://bakullama1.bandcamp.com/album/sleepers-2024
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progaardvark
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A bunch of songs.
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I guess, my answer should be easy to guess.
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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A great progressive artist, composer, influencer, etc, but not the greatest of all time.
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my choices: 2) Not as great as Mark Hollis 3) His music certainly pushed boundaries that led to prog.
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Not as great as Peter Hammill.
Actually, I only know Bitches Brew. And I'm not really a fan of Jazz. |
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Atavachron
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The grandfather of Fusion maybe, but not the father as is often attributed to him. That honor goes to Tony Williams.
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The Dark Elf
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A giant of progressive music as far as jazz and fusion, but tangential to prog rock as a particular genre. This is the crux of the biscuit, as Frank Zappa would say.
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Not that long ago I picked up In A Silent Way. It's sometimes considered to be the first fusion album predating Bitches Brew and Hot Rats. So far I only played it once so I need to spend more time with it.
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the greatest ?,the god father ! he brought classical music to jazz (sketches of spain) blues
(kind of blue) electric piano (filles de kilimanjaro)electric guitar (in a
silent way) and rock then funk rythm. most of all he was the master of silence progressive jazz or progressive rock ? one day or the
other they are together thks drew for entertaining us on this sick planet |
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