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Closer To The Heart-therein lies a tale regarding that song.....

When my sister, myself and a friend of each of us went to see Rush in support of the "A Farewell To Kings" album-the tale end of the tour in early 1978 in Ottawa, before the concert, my sister and her friend found a way to sneak in and were in the arena when Rush were practicing before the show-it was just them and the band-and Neil Peart noticed them and said, "Hey, let's do one for the girls" and they played "Closer To The Heart". By this time, security had noticed them as well, and they were escorted back outside to a somewhat bewildered rest of us waiting in line to get in....
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^ Good thing the Rush band members have been nice and gentle. I'd be concerned if it were, say, Gene Simmons of Kiss saying "Hey, let's do one for the girls" upon seeing them.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^ Good thing the Rush band members have been nice and gentle. I'd be concerned if it were, say, Gene Simmons of Kiss saying "Hey, let's do one for the girls" upon seeing them.

Gene Simmons would probably put his bass guitar between his legs when playing it. That's maybe the only difference.LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote presdoug Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 30 2024 at 09:19
^^I get you for sure; in most cases, Rock stars will be rock stars, but my sister and her friend were ok with Rush-though security took care of things pretty quickly, anyway....
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^ LOL, yes .

^^ I definitely have been an overprotective father, but I wouldn't be as concerned with Rush as many others. And of course it's important that you have professional and decent security guards. Anyway, times have got better generally, and in many ways more formal in my experience, and often more likely to press charges and detain methinks. There is lot more "security" generally as we now have greater fears of terrorism, bombthreats, shoot-ups....
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^ LOL, yes .

^^ I definitely have been an overprotective father, but I wouldn't be as concerned with Rush as many others. And of course it's important that you have professional and decent security guards. Anyway, times have got better generally, and in many ways more formal in my experience, and often more likely to press charges and detain methinks. There is lot more "security" generally as we now have greater fears of terrorism, bombthreats, shoot-ups....

Didn't you ever see the Rush biography film called Beyond the Lighted Stage? in it there was a story about how Rush were staying in a hotel room and a woman's bowling league were down the hall with their door open. They were all in night gowns but Rush stayed in their room playing Dungeons and Dragons or something. LOL So yeah probably not much to worry about with Rush. ;) Kiss or Ted Nugent on the other hand..... I could also mention Motely Crue or Van Halen but I don't think either of them ever toured with Rush.


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Two songs featuring high pitched vocalists so it’s neither for me
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Originally posted by Duddick Duddick wrote:

Two songs featuring high pitched vocalists so it’s neither for me

You don't like either band?
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^ LOL, yes .

^^ I definitely have been an overprotective father, but I wouldn't be as concerned with Rush as many others. And of course it's important that you have professional and decent security guards. Anyway, times have got better generally, and in many ways more formal in my experience, and often more likely to press charges and detain methinks. There is lot more "security" generally as we now have greater fears of terrorism, bombthreats, shoot-ups....


Didn't you ever see the Rush biography film called Beyond the Lighted Stage? in it there was a story about how Rush were staying in a hotel room and a woman's bowling league were down the hall with their door open. They were all in night gowns but Rush stayed in their room playing Dungeons and Dragons or something. LOL So yeah probably not much to worry about with Rush. ;) Kiss or Ted Nugent on the other hand..... I could also mention Motely Crue or Van Halen but I don't think either of them ever toured with Rush.




No, heard of it. I've heard about that incident, I think. I remember hearing about them just reading their books instead of living the rock & roll lifestyle.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^ LOL, yes .

^^ I definitely have been an overprotective father, but I wouldn't be as concerned with Rush as many others. And of course it's important that you have professional and decent security guards. Anyway, times have got better generally, and in many ways more formal in my experience, and often more likely to press charges and detain methinks. There is lot more "security" generally as we now have greater fears of terrorism, bombthreats, shoot-ups....


Didn't you ever see the Rush biography film called Beyond the Lighted Stage? in it there was a story about how Rush were staying in a hotel room and a woman's bowling league were down the hall with their door open. They were all in night gowns but Rush stayed in their room playing Dungeons and Dragons or something. LOL So yeah probably not much to worry about with Rush. ;) Kiss or Ted Nugent on the other hand..... I could also mention Motely Crue or Van Halen but I don't think either of them ever toured with Rush.



No, heard of it. I've heard about that incident, I think. I remember hearing about them just reading their books instead of living the rock & roll lifestyle.

Neil was notoriously a huge book worm. Next was probably Geddy and then Alex. I don't really know how much Geddy and Alex read though. However, I don't really think they read much while in hotel rooms. I think they played games and did little skits and stuff and overall just joked around a lot. At least that was the impression I got from the All The World's A Stage dvd.


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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^ LOL, yes .

^^ I definitely have been an overprotective father, but I wouldn't be as concerned with Rush as many others. And of course it's important that you have professional and decent security guards. Anyway, times have got better generally, and in many ways more formal in my experience, and often more likely to press charges and detain methinks. There is lot more "security" generally as we now have greater fears of terrorism, bombthreats, shoot-ups....


Didn't you ever see the Rush biography film called Beyond the Lighted Stage? in it there was a story about how Rush were staying in a hotel room and a woman's bowling league were down the hall with their door open. They were all in night gowns but Rush stayed in their room playing Dungeons and Dragons or something. LOL So yeah probably not much to worry about with Rush. ;) Kiss or Ted Nugent on the other hand..... I could also mention Motely Crue or Van Halen but I don't think either of them ever toured with Rush.



No, heard of it. I've heard about that incident, I think. I remember hearing about them just reading their books instead of living the rock & roll lifestyle.



Neil was notoriously a huge book worm. Next was probably Geddy and then Alex. I don't really know how much Geddy and Alex read though. However, I don't really think they read much while in hotel rooms. I think they played games and did little skits and stuff and overall just joked around a lot. At least that was the impression I got from the All The World's A Stage dvd.



Geddy Lee is a huge baseball fan ( Alex is too, although to a lesser degree). Lee stated when he was young and before the Toronto Blue Jays existed he used to follow the Detroit Tigers. When Rush came into existence and when on tour, Geddy stated he would watch the Chicago Cubs on WGN since they had their home games during the day before heading to the venue for sound checks. If the tour schedule allowed, Lee and Lifeson often would attend baseball and hockey games.

Of course, Lee has an impressive baseball memorabilia collection (as well as bass collection). He did give the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum in Kansas City 200 baseballs signed by notable black baseball players. A few years ago at an auction a part of his collection went for $6.9 million dollars.

But, yeah, in general Rush had a pretty boring Rock n Roll lifestyle on the road. Reading, playing video games and watching and attending sporting events seemed to be the norm.

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^ I guess it's safe to say they were all faithful to their wives which would explain the lack of at least that kind of debauchery. 

I knew about Geddy's fascination with baseball. He's also a big wine collector. Alex is too I think and is a big golfer as well. I'm sure they still had fun on the road but it was their kind of fun and not the typical rock star kind of fun. 
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

^ I guess it's safe to say they were all faithful to their wives which would explain the lack of at least that kind of debauchery. 

I knew about Geddy's fascination with baseball. He's also a big wine collector. Alex is too I think and is a big golfer as well. I'm sure they still had fun on the road but it was their kind of fun and not the typical rock star kind of fun. 


Yeah, Alex is an avid golfer. He became a good friend with PGA tour golfer Rocco Mediate, a 6x winner on the PGA tour. Mediate famously lost to Tiger Woods in a playoff at the 2008 U.S. Open at Torrey Pines. Mediate and Lifeson became friends in 1992 when Mediate was preparing for the 1992 PGA Championship being played at Bellerive Country Club. Mediate is a big Rush fan and knew Rush was playing in St. Louis. So Mediate sent an invite to the guys to play a round of golf and Lifeson accepted. Mediate has spent a lot of time with Lifeson helping him with his game. Starting in the 90s, Lifeson was known to carry his clubs when on tour and throw in a few rounds here and there.

Baseball Hall of Fame Pitcher Randy Johnson, a huge Rush fan, became good friends with the band. Johnson, who also a gifted photographer, documented a number of Rush concerts with his photography.

I'm sure in the first years of touring, being young men they had their moments, but nothing more than probably what is found on a typical college campus.

Alex has been married since 1975 and Geddy since 1976. Peart had been with his common law wife, Jacqueline Taylor, for 23 years before her unfortunate death in 1998. Peart married in 2000, Carrie Nuthall and remained so until his death. Much like the band themselves, outside the tragic deaths of Peart's first wife and daughter, not much drama to be found in their private lives.

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There was an auction last year at Christie's of some of Geddy's collection. It's quite eclectic and of museum quality. Kind of surprised that some of these things weren't in Cooperstown.

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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Duddick Duddick wrote:

Two songs featuring high pitched vocalists so it’s neither for me

You don't like either band?

Afraid not!
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Originally posted by Duddick Duddick wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Duddick Duddick wrote:

Two songs featuring high pitched vocalists so it’s neither for me

You don't like either band?

Afraid not!

Genesis, Pink Floyd and King Crimson then?
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I like both but neither really stands out. They represent the most accessible end of prog as we get to 1977 an were both played on radio. Could perhaps add ELP's Fanfare For The Common Man as another prog hit from that year and maybe even Afterglow from Genesis. The punks were not quite getting it all their own way!
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Originally posted by Big Sky Big Sky wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

^ I guess it's safe to say they were all faithful to their wives which would explain the lack of at least that kind of debauchery. 

I knew about Geddy's fascination with baseball. He's also a big wine collector. Alex is too I think and is a big golfer as well. I'm sure they still had fun on the road but it was their kind of fun and not the typical rock star kind of fun. 


Yeah, Alex is an avid golfer. He became a good friend with PGA tour golfer Rocco Mediate, a 6x winner on the PGA tour. Mediate famously lost to Tiger Woods in a playoff at the 2008 U.S. Open at Torrey Pines. Mediate and Lifeson became friends in 1992 when Mediate was preparing for the 1992 PGA Championship being played at Bellerive Country Club. Mediate is a big Rush fan and knew Rush was playing in St. Louis. So Mediate sent an invite to the guys to play a round of golf and Lifeson accepted. Mediate has spent a lot of time with Lifeson helping him with his game. Starting in the 90s, Lifeson was known to carry his clubs when on tour and throw in a few rounds here and there.

Baseball Hall of Fame Pitcher Randy Johnson, a huge Rush fan, became good friends with the band. Johnson, who also a gifted photographer, documented a number of Rush concerts with his photography.

I'm sure in the first years of touring, being young men they had their moments, but nothing more than probably what is found on a typical college campus.

Alex has been married since 1975 and Geddy since 1976. Peart had been with his common law wife, Jacqueline Taylor, for 23 years before her unfortunate death in 1998. Peart married in 2000, Carrie Nuthall and remained so until his death. Much like the band themselves, outside the tragic deaths of Peart's first wife and daughter, not much drama to be found in their private lives.


Nope. Rush never did the sowing wild oats thing. That's been well documented. Trust me us Rush fans would know. I'm sure they drank and smoked weed but that's about it. 

Anyway, Neil Peart aside from being an avid reader was also big into bicycling and riding his motorcyle. He travelled a lot and not just while on tour. When on tour in the later years the other two would take the bus but Neil would hop on his bike instead. 


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