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I feel like a bit of a Vangelis virgin really.. i first came across (and love) the lps Spiral and Albedo 0.39 in my teens (Pulstar was the theme to a UK childrens tv programme about horses in the mid-late 70's!) but never really explored his music. Until i came across Soil festivities and China which have a very personal connection to me and apart from odd bits and pieces ive just not really explored further, for which i feel slightly embarrassed. However, this is something i intend to rectify!

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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Am I the only one who likes Invisible Connections?

Luca, I simply can't get my head around how to listen to this one; it's so sparse and disjointed, almost devoid of any underlying melody with which to build on with repeated listens.. you merely seem to be hanging on for the next set of notes, then wondering how they connect to what you've just heard? I really struggle with Beaubourg, but that's a walk in the park compared to this!

I reluctantly came to the conclusion that it was just too intelligent for me?  Embarrassed
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Am I the only one who likes Invisible Connections?

Vangelis is one of my favorite artists ever. I've managed to purchase the two vinyls with Irene Papas and a collection of Forminx during a trip to Crete (there was a nice shop in Agios Nikolaos).

I have all his official releases and I still listen to him. Aphrodite's Child always put me in a sort of melancholic state, as they were actually very famous and I've listened to them a lot when I was a child.

Apart of that, my favorite albums are Heaven And Hell, Albedo 0.39 and China.
The Blade Runner 25th anniversary boxset features also Demis Roussos and I've never regretted the expense.

The only album that I don't like is See You Later. I think (by memory) that it's one of my very few one-star reviews. 

The City, mentioned above is another very good album. In particular Morning Papers gives me the sensation of going for a breakfast after a non-sleeping night. 


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Glad to see The City, an oft-overlooked album, receive so many mentions. It's the one that changed me from a casual fan to a serious listener. I read somewhere he composed/recorded The City in a hotel room while on a movie set, endlessly waiting for "dailies" to make soundtrack music for. It's shorter than most of his albums and got a serious promotional push in the USA from the record company, and I've often wondered if many listeners have held that against this album.

Other favorites: China, Opera Sauvage, Chariots of Fire, Soil Festivities, Mask, Voices, Oceanic.
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Originally posted by Meltdowner Meltdowner wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Do you like The City? That's a really underrated one in Vangelis' discography, IMO. It plays like an unofficial sequel to Blade Runner. I think I'll listen to it today.
I took a chance on that album on vinyl some years ago and I enjoyed it more than I thought I would (more than Direct). It has a couple of weaker tracks but since it's a concept album I'm more forgiving.


Vangelis is an artist I adore I've been listening for more than ten years, and there's still a lot of music I never heard from him, mostly soundtracks. I've been listening to "L'Apocalypse des Animaux" often at night since I bought it last year, it's very relaxing but doesn't fall into background music.

My favourite album is still the first one I heard, Spiral. I find fascinating that all the percussion is acoustic, in electronic music it's normally the first thing that's replaced with synthesizers.

Than I'd complete my top 3 with Heaven and Hell and China. I also really like Soil Festivities and The Dragon.


Glad you like The City. Do you have Juno to Jupiter? It's exceptional, was his best music in years.
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Do you like The City? That's a really underrated one in Vangelis' discography, IMO. It plays like an unofficial sequel to Blade Runner. I think I'll listen to it today.
I took a chance on that album on vinyl some years ago and I enjoyed it more than I thought I would (more than Direct). It has a couple of weaker tracks but since it's a concept album I'm more forgiving.


Vangelis is an artist I adore I've been listening for more than ten years, and there's still a lot of music I never heard from him, mostly soundtracks. I've been listening to "L'Apocalypse des Animaux" often at night since I bought it last year, it's very relaxing but doesn't fall into background music.

My favourite album is still the first one I heard, Spiral. I find fascinating that all the percussion is acoustic, in electronic music it's normally the first thing that's replaced with synthesizers.

Than I'd complete my top 3 with Heaven and Hell and China. I also really like Soil Festivities and The Dragon.
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My favorites from him are:
Albedo 0.39
Direct
Heaven and Hell
Opera Sauvage

I should explore more. It's quite a large discography.


Edited by progaardvark - September 03 2024 at 10:50
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I like Vangelis'works with Aphrodite's child
and I like his 1973 's Earth a lot ....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jared Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2024 at 07:51
I'd just like to say 'thanks' to everyone for their initial thoughts... I've been reading everyone's preferences with interest and will expand my knowledge of his discography in due course while there were some I am familiar with, others relatively new to me, such as Soil Festivities and Mask have pleasantly surprised me..
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

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It's just extraordinary that only one man could do all this. Mike Oldfield gives him a run for his money but that's it imo.

Hi,

Mike, is not a composer in the sense that Ryuichi Sakamoto and Vangelis were ... and they did a lot of soundtracks which gives you an idea of how visual their work was for them, and how they illustrated it, not just how it was interpreted in film many times, for which Ryuichi Sakamoto deserves a lot of praise.

Mike, has redone too many TB's for my taste, and he has not exactly moved away from the mechanical style of composition that he is attached to, with the exception of AMAROK which was known to be a huge finger to the record company ... and yet it is appreciated much more than expected ... but he has not come back to that free form thing as far as I can tell.
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He is the ultimate eclectic artist. Not always easy to categorise what he does. He perhaps got hijacked by Hollywood and once Chariots Of Fire and Blade Runner came out he was supposed to copy that. It's to his credit that he didn't. He recorded most of his well known albums in the period 1975-1985 at a studio in West London. I remember reading a piece on the internet from his sound engineer about how tricky it was to record anything without upsetting the local residents. Nowadays the studio no longer exists and a block of flats has been built in its place. After that he moved back to Greece and set up a studio in Athens , the first album he recorded there was Direct. Still an album I like a lot, this takes you on a journey through his various styles. In the 90's he recorded the albums Voices, El Greco and Oceanic , all 3 containing some of his most beautiful music. In later years he made the excellent Rosetta and Juno To Jupiter as well as the operatic and sweeping Mythodea. I enjoy all those. He was fascinated with the idea of space travel and reaching out to the cosmos and that dominated his music later on. Covid took him away from us sadly but what a legacy of work he has to his name. It's just extraordinary that only one man could do all this. Mike Oldfield gives him a run for his money but that's it imo.

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I'm not the kind of music listener to simply "love" all of this or that artist body of work. If something fail to connect with me, it doesn't really matter if Vangelis, Morricone or whoever composed the music. I move on. Vangelis, like almost every composer/instrumentalist of his generation, loses me underways at some point. But he had 10-15 years of greatness. And that's more than enough for me.

5 The Dragon (1971), Odes (with Irene Papas) (1979)
4.5 L'Apocalypse des Animaux (1973), Blade Runner (1981/1982)
4 Sex Power (1970), Hypothesis (1971), Earth (1973), Heaven and Hell (1975), Opera Sauvage (1980)
3.5 Albedo 0.39 (1976), Spiral (1976), See You Later (1980), Soil Festivities (1984)
3 Ignacio (1975), La Fete Sauvage (1976), Beaubourg (1978), China (1979), Antarctica (1983), Mask (1985), 1492: Conquest of Paradise (1992)
2.5 Ραψωδιέ (Rapsodies) (1986)
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I like that. That sounds rather like more optimistic and beautiful Blade Runner. It does have a cinematic sound. I also liked music (not Vangelis) from Blade Runner 2049. Thanks.


Totally. It's another successful concept album, and plays best in one go-through, like Soil Festivities.
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

If I'm going to have a thread hijacked, it might as well be about Vangelis. :) I like so much Vangelis. I started off really liking his 80s soundtrack music, Blade Runner, The Bounty and Antarctica, and then his album China. And I had a best of that I used to listen to often. Later in the 2000s I got into his 70s albums, Spiral, The Dragon (which is not so official), L'apocalypse des animaux and Earth are some favourites. I like the avant-garde Hypothesis, which like The Dragon is not so official a release. I like Albedo 0.39, and I'm into Sex Power (and his debut album of the same name is pretty good too ;) ).


Do you like The City? That's a really underrated one in Vangelis' discography, IMO. It plays like an unofficial sequel to Blade Runner. I think I'll listen to it today.


I don't recall having heard The City. Will spin it when I have more free time. Thanks. From ratings I have seen, mostly at rateyourmusic before, I find that a lot of Vangelis seemed significantly underrated (or lesser rated than how I would see it rated). There often is a band-wagon effect to an extent when it comings to ratings I believe. And a lot gets largely overlooked that may have been appreciated if heard.




I like that. That sounds rather like more optimistic and beautiful Blade Runner. It does have a cinematic sound. I also liked music (not Vangelis) from Blade Runner 2049. Thanks.
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Originally posted by Jacob Schoolcraft Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:

I'm also not a fan of Jon & Vangelis although that material is done well it is not my style. I have everything but the aforementioned.


The side-long epic "Horizon" from Private Collection is pretty great.
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I have 31 cd's to be exact. I am not a fan of opera singers and so none of his collaborations with opera singers are in my collection.. If it's El Greco I don't mind. Mask contains vocals throughout however it doesn't strike me as being a style in opera. Even Heaven & Hell contains a choir..but it doesn't remind me of Opera.

I'm also not a fan of Jon & Vangelis although that material is done well it is not my style. I have everything but the aforementioned.
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Hi,

What a bunch of goons ... and no one is looking for the teaspoons in the albums, yet! Tongue

C'mon ... have some fun! 

Yes, it is likely synthesized and touched up, but they are there in many places! Neat too! 

The story starts with the teaspoons hitting the glasses at the dinner table, btw, in Vangelis' younger years ... he said the magical sound was one of his inspirations! I keep telling you that "magic" ... sometimes, is more than just notes and chords ... 


Edited by moshkito - August 31 2024 at 20:30
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

If I'm going to have a thread hijacked, it might as well be about Vangelis. :) I like so much Vangelis. I started off really liking his 80s soundtrack music, Blade Runner, The Bounty and Antarctica, and then his album China. And I had a best of that I used to listen to often. Later in the 2000s I got into his 70s albums, Spiral, The Dragon (which is not so official), L'apocalypse des animaux and Earth are some favourites. I like the avant-garde Hypothesis, which like The Dragon is not so official a release. I like Albedo 0.39, and I'm into Sex Power (and his debut album of the same name is pretty good too ;) ).


Do you like The City? That's a really underrated one in Vangelis' discography, IMO. It plays like an unofficial sequel to Blade Runner. I think I'll listen to it today.


I don't recall having heard The City. Will spin it when I have more free time. Thanks. From ratings I have seen, mostly at rateyourmusic before, I find that a lot of Vangelis seemed significantly underrated (or lesser rated than how I would see it rated). There often is a band-wagon effect to an extent when it comings to ratings I believe. And a lot gets largely overlooked that may have been appreciated if heard.


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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Thank you, once more you've been very thorough and inciteful... Clap

If I had to pick one, Albedo would be my favourite and I too think Soil Festivities is a remarkable piece of music. I think I like Mask a little more than you, but then I've always been a sucker for choral works... 


Thanks for launching the site's official Vangelis thread. Lord knows we must regularly discuss the man and his music.

Mask, Soil Festivities, The City and Ignacio (which would be higher on my list if he didn't have so many great albums) seem to fly under the radar thanks to his most popular and better-known works.
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