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    Posted: August 24 2024 at 10:55
In a recent poll, the OP made the bold assumption that "Supper's Ready" would be almost everyone's favourite track on Genesis - Foxtrot. But, a number of people disagreed.
 
Quite often the epic track of an album is the one that people tend to prefer. Personally, I find it difficult to say that I prefer some short track over a much longer track, regardless of how fond I am of the short track. For example, I love "Infinite Space (Conclusion)" from ELP - Tarkus, but nevertheless can't say I prefer this to the title track, even though this is my favourite three minutes twenty seconds on the entire album. On the other hand, I have no qualms about saying that I prefer "A Place to Survive" to "Meurglys III (The Songwriters Guild)" from Van der Graaf Generator - World Record.
 
What tracks from albums containing epic tracks do you prefer over the epic tracks?
 



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On "Dog" by Mike Keneally Band, I prefer "Pride Is A Sin" over the epic " This Tastes Like A Hotel".
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I share your opinion about VDGG's World record.
This song was unnecessarily extended and lost its very good start.
From Foxtrot Watcher (one oe the best intro ever) was a long time favorite together with Can-utility ( a gem)
From Nursery Cryme I like 7 Stones and Salmacis a little more than MB or GH the battlehorses of the album.
From Trespass, he Knife will remain iconic (thanks to the powerful live version with Phil on drums) but I always preferred Stagnation and White Mountain (The live version of the 1976 tour is in my opinion weaker, Phil did not match with the original Peter haunting vocals)
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I prefer "Wonderous Stories" to "Awaken", and "After the Ordeal" to "The Battle of Epping Forest"
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VdGG: Man-erg over A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers (Pawn Hearts), A Place to Survive over Meurglys III (World Record)
IQ: The Enemy Smacks over The Last Human Gateway (Tales from the Lush Attic)
Big Big Train: Experimental Gentlemen over A Mead Hall in Winter (Grimspound)
Magma: Hhaï over Retrovision (Retrospektïw III)




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Yes' Sound chaser is a real challenger to Gates of Delirium (one of my timeless LPs)
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And You And I > Close To The Edge
Everything else on Banks Of Eden > Numbers
Parallels > Awaken
Through The Corridors > The Last Human Gateway
Blood On The Rooftops > One For The Vine
(I like all these epics though)
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Renaissance - Scheherazade and Other Stories: Trip to the Fair, Vultures Fly High
Nightwish - Endless Forms Most Beautiful: Elan, Shudder Before the Beautiful, Yours is an Empty Hope, Weak Fantasy
Rush - Hemispheres: La Villa Strangiato

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Caravan - Winter Wine > Nine Feet Underground
Camel - Nimrodel > Lady Fantasy
Renaissance (Live at Carnegie Hall) - Mother Russia better than the two epics (which are great epics)
ELP - Are You Ready Eddy > ... no, I'm joking.
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Northern Lights on Renaissance' Song for All Seasons album.
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Originally posted by bardberic bardberic wrote:

Renaissance - Scheherazade and Other Stories: Trip to the Fair, Vultures Fly High
First one I thought of for some reason. 

I can't think of any other album I feel strongly about, so I must really love epics.

But I could say that Fogwalking is my favorite song of Peter Hammill's - A Black Box, but I love the epic Flight as well. Also Jack The Ripper is my favorite on Universe Zero's Hérésie and not La Faulx (which is still great)
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^Good call.
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On Relayer, my favorite track is To Be Over. Gates of Delirium is a fantastic epic, but it's not on the same level as Close to the Edge or even The Revealing Science of God IMO. Plus, I think To Be Over is really overlooked.
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

On Relayer, my favorite track is To Be Over. Gates of Delirium is a fantastic epic, but it's not on the same level as Close to the Edge or even The Revealing Science of God IMO. Plus, I think To Be Over is really overlooked.

Agree 100%...

It showcased how well Howe and Moraz blended together and contained (what I think) are the best Yes harmonies up to that time until Trevor Rabin came along…
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I love me some epics, but often have trouble with them as a cohesive entity or suite, and love a well constructed and compact "shorter" track, so my favorites from albums are often not the epic(s), though sometimes I love the epic too.  So many examples but among them

Renaissance-Scheherazade:  A Trip to the Fair (which is still an epic)
Renaissance-Novella: Midas Man
Renaissance-Ashes are Burning: Can you Understand, On the Frontier
Eloy-Inside:  title track
Mike Oldfield-Crises:  Moonlight Shadow, In High Places
Eris Pluvia-Rings of Earthly Light:  The Way Home
Asturias-Brilliant Streams:  Rogus
Babe Ruth - Amar Caballero:  Broken Cloud
Genesis-Foxtrot: Watcher of the Skies
Believe-Hope to see another day: Pain
Believe-The Warmest Sun in Winter:  Please Go Home
Albion-The Indefinite State of Matter: Airborn
Camel-Moonmadness: Airborn (!), Spirit of the Water
Mr Toad - Trench Art:  Bach's Cat
as long as the title track)
Moving Hearts - The Storm:  Titanic
Mostly Autumn - The Last Bright Light: The Dark Before the Dawn, Hollow
Moongarden - Moonsadness: Seagulls
Minotaurus- Fly Away: Your Dream
David Minasian - Random Acts of Beauty: Blue Rain
Loreena McKennitt - The Visit:  The Old Ways (not on PA but of interest to lots of prog fans)
Steve Hackett - Spectral Mornings: Every Day
Magna Carta-Seasons:  Ring of Stones
KIng Crimson-LIzard: Cirkus
Yes-Close to the Edge: And You and I
Gracious!-GRacious!:  Heaven
Gracious!-This is Gracious:  Blue Skies and Alibis
Procol Harum-Shine on Brightly:  Quite Rightly So
Tangerine Dream-Force Majeure:  Cloudburst Flight
Tangerine Dream-Cyclone: Riding Runner Missed by Endless Sender
Forever Twelve-Remembrance Branch: Burning Ink
Faveravola-La Contea...: almost anything besides the longest track
Dice-Silvermoon: Another Day
Sagrado Coracao da Terra-Farol de Liberdade:  Pantanal
Collage-Over and Out:  What about the Pain
Clepsydra-Fears:  The Cloister
Carol of Harvest-.s/t:  Try a Little Bit
Alan Stivell-Renaissance de la Harpe Celtique: Ys, Eliz Iza
Seven Reizh-Samsara: Sonj
Silver Lining-The Inner Dragon:Lovestalgia
Jean Luc Ponty-Imaginary Voyage: New Country
Promethean-Gazing the Invisible: Invisible, Don't Mind the Dancer
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One of These Days > Echoes
Summer '68 > Atom Heart Mother
Golf Girl > Nine Feet Underground
Hocus Pocus > Eruption

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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

On Relayer, my favorite track is To Be Over. Gates of Delirium is a fantastic epic, but it's not on the same level as Close to the Edge or even The Revealing Science of God IMO. Plus, I think To Be Over is really overlooked.
The beauty of different tastes... And You And I over Close to the Edge, but Gates of Delirium over To Be Over. Tongue
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

On Relayer, my favorite track is To Be Over. Gates of Delirium is a fantastic epic, but it's not on the same level as Close to the Edge or even The Revealing Science of God IMO. Plus, I think To Be Over is really overlooked.

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To Be Overlooked, I suppose.
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