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I don’t get Peter Gabriel, Bowie, Kate Bush, Joni Mitchell, David Byrne amongst others. I respect what they do and understand why people like them but their music just leaves me cold.
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I'd like also to point that resonating with music is not a state but a process evolving all the time - which is of course very well-known - but typically also with some limits. Like, I can't imagine that I ever could resonate with typical Pop music. LOL







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It's not really, "I don't get it," rather I think it's more "I don't like it" and I can't comprehend why "other people do like it." In which case, I don't get these doofuses and their poor musical taste.
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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

I really enjoyed Discipline when it came out, because it was extremely different and wonderfully new. However, the sheen wore off rather quickly with Beat & Three of a Perfect Pair, both of which have decent moments, but as with all KC, contain stuff which is extremely forgettable. A band capable of the utmost genius, but also capable of the utmost frustration at times.

I think it would be fair to say that your toleration threshold for the 80's sound is generally higher than mine. I enjoy all KC's output up to 1975's USA, but by the time they released Discipline, they were practically a different band, with a sound I've never been able to enjoy. 
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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Usually for me it applies to bands that I like generally and then they put out an album that sits a bit different in my mind because it's probably a change of direction. But it can be plain bad. The classic case is Discipline. I might not like ( I really don't!) but because it's so highly regarded I may then say 'I don't get it' but that's more a comment to the fact that so many like it when I don't. A bad album such as Love Beach, it's easy just to not like it and say it because it is actually bad!

If you're referring to King Crimson (I'm guessing you are, but I'm not sure) then I'd agree with you.. Discipline, Beat and Three have got to go down as the prime candidates for 'I don't get' for me too.. borrowed them from a local library when I was about 19; just didn't get them at all... and now I'm 56, I still don't... hey ho.

I really enjoyed Discipline when it came out, because it was extremely different and wonderfully new. However, the sheen wore off rather quickly with Beat & Three of a Perfect Pair, both of which have decent moments, but as with all KC, contain stuff which is extremely forgettable. A band capable of the utmost genius, but also capable of the utmost frustration at times.
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Originally posted by FT4IFK FT4IFK wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Therefore, "I don't get it" requires context.


Exactly, and therein lies the problem. 'I don't get it' just seems to be a blanket response that people use when they just don't like something.

Indeed!  Folks on PA seem to go deep into their own "I don't get it!" stories. 

For me, I don't get Zeuhl nor Magma.  I've tried several times, not a form of music that speaks to me.  
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Therefore, "I don't get it" requires context.

Yes, that's of course the first step of it, but that should be: "we've all heard many times when attempting to introduce others to our favourite music...".


Hi,

That's the main reason why I rarely give folks advice on what to listen to ... too many of us are so different and have such divergent tastes as to make a suggestion rather weird in my book ... it would be, likely, impossible to give a good idea, although these days, people have this idea that if they listen to things in the same closet of style and idea, then they should "get it" from them all ... and you know that's not true.

Imagine how music came to be for hundreds of years ... there was no Internet, and music only travelled by scores on a few pieces of paper ... and the rest? Up to your imagination to find something "to get" ... I don't think many folks complained, although music history has some crazy examples ... the court's musicians, not exactly liking Mozart ... (the perfect joke in the movie ... too many notes!) ... Debussy that was booed senseless ... and many modern composers whose work left the audience cold, but would not say anything ... so it didn't look like you were making a bad statement about the music!

It's strange to me, that someone has to ask ... that this person's imagination was screwed up by reading so many ideas and comments on something to the point where that person could/would feel confused ... how can that be? when asking about this comment, or another comment?

For me, my assumption is always starting with NOTHING, and let the music COLOR my imagination ... the bad side of this, of course, meaning that what I found and saw, is likely to be totally different than what everyone says. My question is ... do we all have to be lemmings in order to learn something?

I definitely don't get that!
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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Therefore, "I don't get it" requires context.

Yes, that's of course the first step of it, but that should be: "we've all heard many times when attempting to introduce others to our favourite music...".



Edited by David_D - July 28 2024 at 08:34
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Different people resonate with different music, it's so simple, or complicated, as that - as I see it; and if we're talking about that kind, as it can also be question of listening to some music, or similar, enough times. 
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Hi,

There are times, when ... there's nothing to get!

However, there are several details here. One assumption is that anything the artist does has a reason and a meaning. And, sometimes, that is a gross generalization, since there enough intelligent artists out there that will do some thing intentionally "backwards" (for lack of better description) just to make a point, that, of course, we don't get!

Frank Zappa was a great example of that, and would intentionally say something to throw us off ... but the real issue is ... why are you expecting something, and then NOT FINDING it! By saying "I don't get it" are you negating the artists ability to do as he/she sees fit? Do you think that anyone out there playing music really worries about what you think? They would not be musicians, if that was the case ... might as well go wash dishes at the local rat trap!

Sadly, this is more of a statement, about the "fan" ... than it is about the music ... and sometimes, there is nothing to get ... early "krautrock" was a perfect example of something that had nothing to get, and all of a sudden we think that it was some kind of bible! It was wide open improvisation with no interruptions, or fan comments ... what is there to get? That you weren't there, stoned, having fun and getting laid?


Edited by moshkito - July 28 2024 at 07:34
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Usually for me it applies to bands that I like generally and then they put out an album that sits a bit different in my mind because it's probably a change of direction. But it can be plain bad. The classic case is Discipline. I might not like ( I really don't!) but because it's so highly regarded I may then say 'I don't get it' but that's more a comment to the fact that so many like it when I don't. A bad album such as Love Beach, it's easy just to not like it and say it because it is actually bad!

If you're referring to King Crimson (I'm guessing you are, but I'm not sure) then I'd agree with you.. Discipline, Beat and Three have got to go down as the prime candidates for 'I don't get' for me too.. borrowed them from a local library when I was about 19; just didn't get them at all... and now I'm 56, I still don't... hey ho.
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To me, it means "I don't Like It," "I Don't understand it," or "it doesn't appeal to me." Regardless what it means, it seems that type of music is not what they want to hear, simply because is not up to their taste, expectations, etc.
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As one gets more familair with kinds of music, it can help with a formerly unfamiliar style to compare an act to others of a similar ilk and to have stepping stones that help one to feel, "grok" and have a better grounding in the music.

It often does just mean that someone doesn't like it, but if I were to use it, it would be more like I feel that I lack the current ability to properly appreciate the music, or in some cases, that I don't see or find what others enjoy about the music. Not only can it take time to acquire tastes, it can take time to acquire the knowledge to be able to understand and interpret music for what it aims to be or is.  I know I can appreciate music that I don't like and I feel I can "get" (comprehend) music that I don't like.
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Originally posted by FT4IFK FT4IFK wrote:


OK, so you say that you get some certain acts - what is it that you get?
I don't have an answer for that as it's different from from act to act. But I guess quite a few acts that introduces me to a musical approach that I was previously unfamiliar with, has taken at least a little bit of getting used to. I will eventually get what they are aiming for and understand why they are good (or not so good) at what they do.
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You answered your own question. It's just a polite way to say you don't like that style of music.

Edited by Grumpyprogfan - July 28 2024 at 04:13
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

I don't like Ayreon. But I get it and I know why they are not for me.

Ayreon are my favourite Progressive Metal band, but I  totally understand why some music lovers don't get them, because all of Ayreon's albums sound the same, even to my ears. Smile
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

I don't like Ayreon. But I get it and I know why they are not for me.
I don't like Cardiacs either. But I suspect there something I don't get about them.

From personal experience there is actually something to potentially get about differente styles of music. My knowledge and experience seperates the middle aged me from the teenage me. I've had to come back to many of the bands/artists that Psychedelic Paul don't get/don't like. I instantly knew that Swans, The Residents, Universe Zero were for me. I loved them all at first attemnt. But I didn't really get Zappa, Wyatt, Beefheart or Henry Cow until I was reintroduced to them a few years later. I didn't enjoy jazz in my teens either, and I can safely say that it was because I didn't get it. Now it takes up more than half my listening time. The only type of jazz I could acknowledge back then, I have no genuine interest in now. 

I also "get" Taylor Swift. I get it and I consider her to be lightweight, mediocre at best - and not a master of her craft. It's music for beginners and "fans". I also get Billie Eilish, which is why I know she and her brother are brilliant at what they do.



OK, so you say that you get some certain acts - what is it that you get?
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I don't like Ayreon. But I get it and I know why they are not for me.
I don't like Cardiacs either. But I suspect there something I don't get about them.

From personal experience there is actually something to potentially get about differente styles of music. My knowledge and experience seperates the middle aged me from the teenage me. I've had to come back to many of the bands/artists that Psychedelic Paul don't get/don't like. I instantly knew that Swans, The Residents, Universe Zero were for me. I loved them all at first attemnt. But I didn't really get Zappa, Wyatt, Beefheart or Henry Cow until I was reintroduced to them a few years later. I didn't enjoy jazz in my teens either, and I can safely say that it was because I didn't get it. Now it takes up more than half my listening time. The only type of jazz I could acknowledge back then, I have no genuine interest in now. 

I also "get" Taylor Swift. I get it and I consider her to be lightweight, mediocre at best - and not a master of her craft. It's music for beginners and "fans". I also get Billie Eilish, which is why I know she and her brother are brilliant at what they do.
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Twelve artists "I don't get"  simply because I don't like them. Smile

Art Bears
Art Zoyd
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Cardiacs
Current 93
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Usually for me it applies to bands that I like generally and then they put out an album that sits a bit different in my mind because it's probably a change of direction. But it can be plain bad. The classic case is Discipline. I might not like ( I really don't!) but because it's so highly regarded I may then say 'I don't get it' but that's more a comment to the fact that so many like it when I don't. A bad album such as Love Beach, it's easy just to not like it and say it because it is actually bad!
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