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cstack3 
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Not as good as the debut album, nor as good as LTIA. I found them all to be very inconsistent, and Fripp seems to agree about Lizard at least.
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Posted: July 25 2024 at 23:14 |
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agreed. I love that period of TD.
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Posted: July 25 2024 at 23:15 |
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what's that song from Frozen, oh yes 'Let it go let it go let it go''
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Posted: July 25 2024 at 23:27 |
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1. Never liked 90125 personally 2. Kinda agree but both albums come across as patchy compared to the classic run of albums they did prior. 3. I listened to GUP recently and expected to not like it. Wrong I loved it. Probably the last of their great albums. 4. ELP - at the time I had waited ages for new ELP and loved Black Moon. Then ITHS was as you say a massive disappointment. Nowadays I hardly listen to either but probably the only track that is a keeper across both is Hand Of Truth. That said Daddy could well be the worst thing they ever did. 5. Presence has Achilles Last Stand. Maybe the birth of prog metal. Nuff said. 6. Jazz is highly rated by some but I'm not that bothered about any Queen albums in truth. Like them but they were all over the place musically. 7. Don't know 8. My favourite APP is Pyramid but I find there are decent tracks across all his albums, nothing is earthn shattering though. 9. Yep perhaps. Scratch wasn't a massive come down though. It still is very much PG. 10. Don't know 11. Don't Know 12. By Numbers is my favourite Who record but it does come across a bit as a Peter Townsend solo record. ''How Many Friends'', ''Blue, Red and Grey'', ''Slip Kid'' are bone fide Who classic tracks in my book. No real bad ones , even Squeeze Box is okay.
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richardh
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Posted: July 25 2024 at 23:41 |
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Gary Numan - Replicas/ The Pleasure Principle. Nowadays I like both about equal but for some reason the electo pop stylings of TPP grated on me at the time compared to the new prog brilliance of Replicas. Admittedly they are very different sounding. He was almost the gatekeeper to the 80's electro pop thing.
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Posted: July 26 2024 at 04:24 |
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Genesis - Selling England... / The Lamb...
Jethro Tull - Minstrel... / Too Old |
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Posted: July 26 2024 at 05:09 |
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Totally agree with those two choices. Ideally, The overlong Lamb should have shorn down to a single album. Baa.
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Posted: July 26 2024 at 07:22 |
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Posted: July 26 2024 at 09:55 |
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I often say about double albums, that they would have made more of an impact if they had been edited to a single disk (think: The Flower Kings)... but I can't agree here; the Lamb material holds up all the way through.
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The timing of TOTRTYTD is unfortunate. Minstrel makes a wonderful lead-in to the "folk trilogy," but then this album that sounds a few years late pops up. I mean, I like it, but it sounds like it should've been released before WarChild, if that makes any sense. |
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Thanks for your thoughts on Led Zeppelin. I agree that "Achilles Last Stand" is one of the best things the band ever did. It's the rest of Presence ("Hots on for Nowhere" notwithstanding) that merited its inclusion on my original list. And while Physical Graffiti may be my second favorite Led Zep album, I agree that it's not perfect. I always skip over "In My Time of Dying" and "Sick Again" from that one.
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As much as I find that thought truly excruciating Will, I'm sure we're not going to fall out over it...
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The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway is my favourite Genesis album, but to each their own tastes, of course. I find it satisfying all the way through. There are some albums that I clearly think inferior follow-ups, but generally I was expecting that. I'm trying to think of something where I came in and was hoping for more based on loving past albums. *three seconds later* Oh yes, of course, Yes' Close to the Edge. The time is in the latter half of the 1980s, I'm a teenager in high school. My very good friend Rob introduced me to Fragile, and I adored it. Months later he introduced me to Close to the Edge as an even better album and it feel quite flat. I do actually like the first two tracks and it was "Siberian Khatru" that really made me want to replace the tape with Fragile. More recently, I guess I was a little disappointed with Anna von Hausswolff's All Thoughts Fly at first. I was not expecting to like it as much as the three former albums being an instrumental (pipe organ) as i like the more eclectic approach of her earlier albums. Loved Persefone from the get-go. Now I like it much more for what it is. I've always liked the pipe organ, including solo, and the most beautiful concert I have been too was a viola and pipe organ concert in Osaka (the location makes it more sentimental to me).
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Posted: July 26 2024 at 22:39 |
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I think we finally found a topic on which our tastes do not align. Which is not very often, my grumpy friend.
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Interesting that according to Steve Hackett in a recent interview said that when they recorded it at the Grange , PG was writing the music in an entirely different room. He had already left the band it seemed. This is not anything new probably but it was interesting to hear it said. Does it make any difference? I tend to think of it as almost as being a solo album much like The Wall was the start of Roger Waters solo career and Floyd had become his backing band. Nowadays I like Lamb more than SEBTP but I can't say that about Animals and The Wall.
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Hi,
I know this is not a popular view, but in many ways, I find this thread really sad ... if you were one of those bands, I doubt you would not stand up for your talent and creativity, but now, in the Internet Age we think the fan is the rule and screw the artist ... and I don't think that is right, and it smacks of disrespect, which is now centered on the enduser/fan's money for purchasing something ... when they could have gotten something else! You can look at Picasso, and in the end, he had over thousands of paintings, or an insane number like that, and of course, some would seem better than the others ... but in the end, the artist went out in a massive blaze of glory for his work, and specially its quantity. We're working on the process to hurt artists, is what it feel like to me ... so Ian's album is not as "great" in our estimation as some stuff he did before, but he's still the same artist, and he's still good, despite his advancing years. About the only one I dislike, is RW, because of his trashing of YES. I find it hypocritical, that he doesn't know music beyond his likes ... and thinks only his scales and composition matters in this world ... and he obviously has never heard any other music other than the English variety for the last 50 years ...
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