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I'm 54. I was 15 (1985), I guess, when I first really discovered it. I knew of Yes (initially because of my dad who had The Yes Album but that's it for them) and then Genesis and the other big name stuff but I think when I was 15 was when I figured out it was all called progressive rock in part because of music books (a guitar book that had a section with Robert Fripp and a rock encyclopedia that my ex step mother got me if I'm not mistaken). In late 1983 (when I was still 13) I got the 90125 by Yes and soon realized it was the same band who did the Yes album. Around the same time someone got me the shapes album by Genesis on cassette. It wasn't until the summer of 1984 when I really started to explore more Yes and then eventually Genesis and Rush etc. I guess you could say getting into prog was a gradual process and not something that happened over night but by mid 85 I was well on my way to being a prog fan (although I still listened to other stuff and actually still do). I actually feel rather lucky to have discovered prog when I did because prog wasn't exactly very well known (or at least the term wasn't used much) in that decade. I kind of feel like I sneaked in through the back door. 

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I became aware of Prog in my early 20s, but only started listening seriously and critically recently at age 34. I remember hearing Genesis’ song The Musical Box and being blow away by it. Recently, I’ve been investigating a lot of the Canterbury scene and have been really enjoying Egg, Gong, Soft Machine, and bands of that variety. Though not a Canterbury band, I’ve really been getting into The Cardiacs as well. I actually come from a Punk background and find them to be a good entry point for someone like myself.
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64. I used to make mixtapes from AM radio with a little tape recorder and a plastic microphone. I remember a lot of the songs I grabbed - Fire by The Crazy World of Arthur Brown, Jump Into the Fire by Harry Nilsson, Liar by Three Dog Night, Hold Your Head Up by Argent, Green Eyed Lady by Sugarloaf... I wasn't aware of it at the time but a lot of them were "Proggy". But there was one song at the time that kept eluding me - Roundabout. Every time I heard it I was somewhere I couldn't get to my tape recorder. Then one day I was in my room and I turned on the radio just to hear the last few notes. I was so pissed that I missed it I punched a hole in my wall. It was released in November '71 and my birthday is in January so I was either 11 or 12.
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53. Listened to various bits of prog over the years without really knowing it was prog, then got Genesis’ Platinum Collection in 2000(ish) and it opened my ears!
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

I'm 28 in July this year. I discovered prog rock circa 2013-2014 by looking up samples used by my fave hip hop artist Medium. I'm one of those super rare cases of people discovering prog rock online! Also, Spinetta's music is fricking amazing. In my country he's really little known and it's a shame. "El anillo del capitan Beto" is one of the greatest songs of all time imho. So, double high five I guess!
I agree! love the album and the fantastic song!.
Do you know Spinetta Jade?, Almendra and Pescado Rabioso?.
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I become a prog fan at the age of 13-14 years old after listening to a tape of Rush, Kansas, Jethro Tull and Floyd. 40 years later and I am still loving the music. 
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I'm 17 but was 13 when I discovered prog. The first band I ever got into was actually Rush. My dad was shocked when I started playing Hemispheres in the car because he's a fan too and started listening to them around my age! I guess it just passes down.
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Originally posted by DarksideofAbel DarksideofAbel wrote:

Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

I'm 28 in July this year. I discovered prog rock circa 2013-2014 by looking up samples used by my fave hip hop artist Medium. I'm one of those super rare cases of people discovering prog rock online! Also, Spinetta's music is fricking amazing. In my country he's really little known and it's a shame. "El anillo del capitan Beto" is one of the greatest songs of all time imho. So, double high five I guess!

I agree! love the album and the fantastic song!.
Do you know Spinetta Jade?, Almendra and Pescado Rabioso?.
I love the first three Spinetta Jade albums. Invisible's and Almendra's output is patchy. Some songs I love, some not so much. «A estos hombres tristes» is an incredible song for instance. As for Pescado Rabioso, I can't get into that band.
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I'm 20 and I discovered prog when I was 17. My very first album was Synthesis by Synthesis. I can't say I was hooked but I started seriously listening to prog just this week.(function(){function c(){var b=a.contentDocument||a.contentWindow.document;if(b){var d=b.createElement('script');d.innerHTML="window.__CF$cv$params={r:'8ac6c3161d286672',t:'MTcyMjUyNTEwMC4wMDAwMDA='};var a=document.createElement('script');a.nonce='';a.src='/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/scripts/jsd/main.js';document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(a);";b.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(d)}}if(document.body){var a=document.createElement('iframe');a.height=1;a.width=1;a.style.position='absolute';a.style.top=0;a.style.left=0;a.style.border='none';a.style.visibility='hidden';document.body.appendChild(a);if('loading'!==document.readyState)c();else if(window.addEventListener)document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded',c);else{var e=document.onreadystatechange||function(){};document.onreadystatechange=function(b){e(b);'loading'!==document.readyState&&(document.onreadystatechange=e,c())}}}})();< height="1" width="1" style=": ; top: 0px; left: 0px; border: medium; visibility: ;">
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Hi,

I was 15 in Brazil when music picked me up, though I had already been listening and liking a lot of the classical music dad had, and specially one Turandot version with Renata Tebaldi, Birgit Nilsson, Mario del Monaco and Leinsdorf directing ... gawd that was some far out work. Also enjoyed a lot of Stravinsky, Debussy and many others.

I'm now 73, and yeah ... the weird thing is that a lot of the old "progressive" doesn't turn me on anymore ... I think my view on a lot of that work is not as swindled/impressed as we were when we were teenagers. I really only like one YES album (TFTO), I like ELP, I love AD2, Can, Klaus Schulze and Tangerine Dream ... I have never tired of those Germans, and still love Mani and Guru Guru. My appreciation for a lot of the Fillmore/Haight-Ashbury thing has increased as some more stuff is "found" and many of them are just far out flights to everywhere ... the kind that many of us do not exactly spend time on ... just heard a couple of long things by Quicksilver Messenger Service, and they were outstanding ... 

The sad things for me, is when folks that have a massive history ... start trashing stuff from their old days ... I really lost a lot of respect for Dave and Roger, when they said most of their early stuff was crap ... and Dave, of course, things his 3 notes on a song, are more important ... and Roger, of course, just forgot to have fun and keep his mouth shut. I miss Rick. I enjoy what Nick is doing a LOT! A statement that some of that old stuff was not crap. Was great!

Mostly these days ... just new stuff ... I'm not even buying a whole lot anymore ... though it's hard to not get Gert Emmens. And some of that Middle East music Space Pirate Radio is playing is getting really far out ... a shame that the English hate it when others do it better!


Edited by moshkito - August 01 2024 at 20:26
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I am 67 and I discovered Progressive Rock in 1971...however people were calling it Art Rock at that time. My parents were musicians and that helped immensely if I had any questions about the music and it's influences...or where it derived from.

Progressive Rock didn't seem to evolve into something internationally successful until 1972...although it may have been very popular in different parts of the world...I just can't recall.

What I do recall are pictures of Rick Wakeman, Keith Emerson, Ian Anderson, and others on the front cover of Rock magazines such as Hit Parader, Circus and Creem..etc.

Around the time of Thick As A Brick it seemed to really take off becoming a global impact...resulting in television appearances and headlining stadiums...and eventually as time progressed huge festivals like California Jam in 74'. By then Progressive Rock was as big as sliced bread and I liked it very much..however I seemed to be more a fan of underground European Progressive Rock...for example...Gong, Hatfield and the North, Caravan, Renaissance, ...several Krautrock bands..that I discovered in bargin bins for $1.99 on the United Artist label in the U.S.

Passport Records , Billingsgate Records etc and that's when I began placing special orders for it through Jem Records on Kennedy Blvd in North and South Plainfield N.J. and Archie Patterson who was affiliated with Green World on the west coast. I used to find these catalogs ...somehow?? And order all sorts of underground music through mail order. I became much more obsessed with underground Prog which at the time appeared to be unwanted or unheard of.
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Originally posted by Jacob Schoolcraft Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:

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Passport Records , Billingsgate Records etc and that's when I began placing special orders for it through Jem Records on Kennedy Blvd in North and South Plainfield N.J. and Archie Patterson who was affiliated with Green World on the west coast. I used to find these catalogs ...somehow?? And order all sorts of underground music through mail order. I became much more obsessed with underground Prog which at the time appeared to be unwanted or unheard of.
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For Guy Guden and I, a lot of trips to Moby Disk (Van Nuys at the time) ... and Tower at the Strip and then the Warehouse in Westwood, because of their selection for jazz, soundtracks and other odd ball things.

It wasn't a bad drive, since in those days Ventura Highway (a theme song for some time!!!) it took exactly 81 minutes from Goleta to 5th and Hill in LA, where we could get Melody Maker on a little store that had all kinds of magazines and newspapers from everywhere. Eventually, when Guy finally was on the air regularly and on his show (anniversaries on Jan 27th each year since 1974), all of those labels were played ... and that first Billingsgate album I remember seeing? Neu ... the first album! Archie Patterson I did not meet until way later 1995 at the first Magma show here in Portland ... and I wanted to do an interview for PA ... but somehow it never clicked ... I think he liked being alone, or distanced from the folks ... that became known as "prog" or "progressive" ... and my only issue was not being able to buy more stuff from him, I simply could not afford it! Guy has played a lot of his stuff, and Gandalf has always been in the non-existent "play list" for Guy's shows, that usually change every week, depending on what he gets ... with the nod always going to the brand new releases, and the two most important ones were Tangerine Dream and Klaus Schulze, both of which got FULL attention on Guy's show ... I don't any of us here have ever heard Mirage in its entirety, and then later done in the Guy Guden special style ... a total treat.

BTW, I did do a review of his book EUROCK, the compilation of all his magazines over the years ... an exhausting read, but a far out document ... and folks still have no idea of how intelligent Richard Pinhas is, and how Heldon did what they did musically! Those philosophical bits are hard to read and understand, but they are intense.

Still, one of my favorite moments with Guy (several years roommates) ... was one evening he went on the air and he had a just arrived copy of TLLDOB and he played it in its entirety right from the start at midnight, and then played it gain later, at 2 or 3 because of the many requests ... I kinda doubt that anyone on PA has ever had an experience like that ... on a commercial radio FM station that was already number 1 in the area.

I miss those days, some, as the finding new music and bands was neat ... and a far out experience. Today, my finding new things, is just on my headset ... and going through last months top list ... and in the end, it is not as exciting as having a friend to enjoy it with!


Edited by moshkito - August 04 2024 at 07:58
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Jacob Schoolcraft Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:

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Passport Records , Billingsgate Records etc and that's when I began placing special orders for it through Jem Records on Kennedy Blvd in North and South Plainfield N.J. and Archie Patterson who was affiliated with Green World on the west coast. I used to find these catalogs ...somehow?? And order all sorts of underground music through mail order. I became much more obsessed with underground Prog which at the time appeared to be unwanted or unheard of.

Hi,

For Guy Guden and I, a lot of trips to Moby Disk (Van Nuys at the time) ... and Tower at the Strip and then the Warehouse in Westwood, because of their selection for jazz, soundtracks and other odd ball things.

It wasn't a bad drive, since in those days Ventura Highway (a theme song for some time!!!) it took exactly 81 minutes from Goleta to 5th and Hill in LA, where we could get Melody Maker on a little store that had all kinds of magazines and newspapers from everywhere. Eventually, when Guy finally was on the air regularly and on his show (anniversaries on Jan 27th each year since 1974), all of those labels were played ... and that first Billingsgate album I remember seeing? Neu ... the first album! Archie Patterson I did not meet until way later 1995 at the first Magma show here in Portland ... and I wanted to do an interview for PA ... but somehow it never clicked ... I think he liked being alone, or distanced from the folks ... that became known as "prog" or "progressive" ... and my only issue was not being able to buy more stuff from him, I simply could not afford it! Guy has played a lot of his stuff, and Gandalf has always been in the non-existent "play list" for Guy's shows, that usually change every week, depending on what he gets ... with the nod always going to the brand new releases, and the two most important ones were Tangerine Dream and Klaus Schulze, both of which got FULL attention on Guy's show ... I don't any of us here have ever heard Mirage in its entirety, and then later done in the Guy Guden special style ... a total treat.

BTW, I did do a review of his book EUROCK, the compilation of all his magazines over the years ... an exhausting read, but a far out document ... and folks still have no idea of how intelligent Richard Pinhas is, and how Heldon did what they did musically! Those philosophical bits are hard to read and understand, but they are intense.

Still, one of my favorite moments with Guy (several years roommates) ... was one evening he went on the air and he had a just arrived copy of TLLDOB and he played it in its entirety right from the start at midnight, and then played it gain later, at 2 or 3 because of the many requests ... I kinda doubt that anyone on PA has ever had an experience like that ... on a commercial radio FM station that was already number 1 in the area.

I miss those days, some, as the finding new music and bands was neat ... and a far out experience. Today, my finding new things, is just on my headset ... and going through last months top list ... and in the end, it is not as exciting as having a friend to enjoy it with!




Absolutely fascinating!!
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Originally posted by Jacob Schoolcraft Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:

 
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Absolutely fascinating!!

Hi,

There is a lot more ... and really hard to catalog, though the 330 hours of Space Pirate Radio that survived in the 120m cassettes until around 2000, when I was starting to lose some shows.  In the following years I mp3'd all that was in good condition ... although sadly some shows that I remember simply did not make it ... and a special one that I loved dearly and miss terribly was one with Daevid Allen's album (Wise Man in Your Heart) .... where Guy basically did a "Ummaguma" (my term!!!) type cover with voice/record/voice/record several times ... and by the time you heard the recording of his first go through on its 3rd or 4th turn, the whole thing was just out of this world ... but there were a lot of comedy bits that he did (with full studio at the station ... !!!) ... where he played voice on voice to create stories and various fun things ... Guy now has a complete copy of those shows on mp3. I never gave away or sold any of his shows, one of his fears, and I leave it to him to distribute those shows as he sees fit now. I've also arealy piled up over 400 hours of the Twitch version since 2019 and finally dropped a few of them recently ... sometimes I like to listen just to find out what is new ... and really, it's too much, and I can't afford it!

To call/consider Guy's show "progressive" feels like an oddity ... it is by far, the least formatted show around, although these days, I think his beginning and ending is starting to fade in my mind ... and the way he mixes and matches things, makes most of the folks doing the equivalent of "radio" out of step with the real concept of what radio was and has gone ... to the dregs as I like to smile with ... all small songs, and horrible mixes ... but in the end, I am not sure that any of those folks KNOWS and REMEMBERS so much music, like Guy does, and it covers soundtracks, to various other singers and material, thus hearing some stuff from the 60's is not out of line ... it's weird, but it fits ... and then you hear something else, and then something else with eastern electronics, and then a Stackridge (Korgis actually) about the Beatles, and then Lazarus ... and then ... in other words, there is no "format" in Guy's shows and this is what I miss the most in the listing each month and the comments .... and the main reason why I have just about stopped listening to any of the "progressive" shows out there on the Net, because they are way too married to the commercial sounding material ... and let me tell you ... we haven't even heard Guy's singalongs ... hilarious! Oh wait, prog'rs don't like/think comedy is ... nothing more than silly. Heck, The Bonzo Dog Band was more progressive than many bands, and they could do any kind of music! (Neil Innes came from there!) ... 

It's a life, I tell you ... very enjoyable and never the same ... just the way we don't like our music, when so many fans get upset that the next album is not as good and doesn't sound the same!

So yeah, it's been a life based on "progressive" and never giving in to the commercial thing. A fight to the death on that, even if I lose ... at least I didn't quit!


Edited by moshkito - August 09 2024 at 12:58
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I'm 63. When I was in High School, some "prog" bands were mainstream. Jethro Tull was my band at the time and I went to see them in concert with Gentle Giant opening. Gentle Giant was a revelation, and I started buying their albums and then it was straight down the rabbit hole. That concert would have been 1975 or 1976. Georgetown University in Washington D.C. use to have a fantastic radio station (Their moto was "One Nation Underground") whereby I discovered lots of great music. Finally meeting the proprietor of Wayside/Cuneiform at a record store opened up even more avenues of progressive and eclectic music. I was an early customer and use to go to his house to pick up my records! :-)
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1971, I was 11 years-old. Heard Aqualung, Low Spark of High Heeled Boys, The Yes Album and Fragile on the FM stations in Detroit (where they'd play whole albums and album sides). Not to mention albums from King Crimson, Alice Cooper, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Pink Floyd, The Who, etc. Nearly every band was proggy at the time. 
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17, discovered at 15. I kept looking for long songs, which led me here.
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