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    Posted: May 19 2024 at 04:23
Jared Bernstein explains how/why America can't go bankrupt because the Fed prints money.


In February 2023, President Joe Biden nominated Bernstein to serve as  Chair of the Council of Economic Advisers. He was confirmed to be chair on June 13, 2023.




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote suitkees Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2024 at 05:42
Is there a point that's being made? Or do we have to guess about it? Every national (federal) bank prints money, so I don't see what's at stake here (other than that the bloke is rambling about it...).

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote omphaloskepsis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2024 at 06:13
Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

Is there a point that's being made? Or do we have to guess about it? Every national (federal) bank prints money, so I don't see what's at stake here (other than that the bloke is rambling about it...).

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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

Is there a point that's being made? Or do we have to guess about it? Every national (federal) bank prints money, so I don't see what's at stake here (other than that the bloke is rambling about it...).

Apparently the point being made is that the OP seems to think the rest of us are completely unaware how & why the Fed prints money rather than the Treasury, that cash itself has no inherent value but rather what you get with that cash (food, housing, clothes, transportation), and that we pay the Fed to print that money. Further, we must not understand that is not necessarily ideal, and that the rest of us have not been educated or initiated to the conspiracy theories that surround it.   

Therefore we must be ignorant non-reading dupes who walk through life thinking everything we see & hear must be true.   We must not have independent minds, and buy into the mainstream medias take on things.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jayem Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2024 at 05:54
I'd thought money was being printed in regards to expectations on how much goods should be exchanged with it, so there'd be enough cash available in banks/societies.

A 100% digitalized system would make it all simplier as there's nothing to predict, provided we all all know how much we have on our accounts. One day someone tells he's got goods to sell for that much, and one buyer agrees on the amount it will transfer, no cash involved, just 0s and 1s

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MikeEnRegalia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2024 at 08:12
Indeed there are many conspiracy theories around the topic of governments printing money. At the most basic level it is interesting to ponder where the printed money goes (the old adage of "follow the money"). This is the usual situation:

- it does not go to the people (normal folks are not getting richer)
- it does not go towards decreasing national debt (on the contrary, debt keeps increasing)
- it does not go to infrastructure (as far as we can see)

So where does it go? Smile

And there is the additional effect of devaluation - for every unit of money printed, the existing money decreases in value. So even if every unit of printed money was accounted for, there would be a movement of financial value away from the owners of the existing money.

Now, just hypothetically, imagine a system where new money keeps being printed and flows to those from whom we also keep lending money. What a great racket that would be Cool
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