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    Posted: December 04 2024 at 21:03
Abbey Road by far.

Specially side B, Almost one epic.
            
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2024 at 14:24
Seems I have never responded to this... I take Revolver and Rubber Soul over both of these. I never was much of a fan of Abbey Road but have recently warmed some more to it, but I still have  Sgt. Pepper as their no. 3 album after the two mentioned above.
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Both albums are masterpieces, and even tho I just prefer Abbey Road it is marred by the slight mis-editing on the medley collage of side two.

For an album that was made as the band were disintegrating it is remarkably coherent, and an improvement on the prior endless recordings that eventually became edited down for 'Let It Be' - presumably being back at the EMI studio with their mentor George Martin (with his calming effect) made some considerable difference.

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Both are masterpieces in their own way.
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

"Why not both?"

Personally, I may prefer Abbey Road, as a more rocky one, but I didn't keep it in my collection when I decided to make it a very selective (small) one, and only found Sgt. Pepper's to be worthy enough.

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I have to admit that at the time I loved the Beatles ... like everyone else ... but by the time I heard The Nice, then ELP and some of the "new music", I lost the desire to bother with the Beatles. 

That said, listening to SGT Peppers these days, seems ... rather boring and I find it better suited for the radio "songs" at the time, than any serious music. By the time Penny Lane and Strawberry Fields Forever came out, I though they had "progressed" to more serious music and ideas, other than just eccentric daily commentary.

Listening to Abbey Road, these days, is very different. And it is hard to not state that it is, by far, one of the best "progressive music/rock" albums of all time, SPECIALLY when it came out ... there was nothing like it around, and it blew many folks and stations off their rocks. However, with today's fans, the album is just sent off to the closet to an area that does not think it belongs, and has very little of what "progressive" is .. .mainly a bunch of senseless solos, and a format!

At 73, now, I can listen to the albums, but they are not the exciting material that really helped you wake up and learn about the arts and how they were developing, since rock music was not the only thing going nuts at the time. Within that context, both albums are massive for the history of it all ... something that today's fans do not care about much ... because it makes their favorites not look or sound, very good at all ... and in fact, show most of them as empty and a sad excuse for great music.

Reminds me of classical music ... Mozart, Beethoven, Stravinsky, PUccini, Verdi ... they STILL take me away ... and those albums did at the time, and they still do some, though not much ... probably from hearing it so much.

One last note. Sgt Peppers. The album DID NOT get better for until until I heard the English pressing. The American pressing was a copy taken from a dumpster somewhere and it did not have the ambience that the original pressing had, which Capitol (or whomever) tried to make sure that it was "heard" on the newer "remastered" versions of the album, which were not remastered at all, but direct copies of the English pressing. The last album this happened to? Dark Side of the Moon, where the American version also tried hard to cut down the ambience which the live show made sure you heard ... which made it all better. Later a "remastered" version came out, and again, it was nothing but a copy of the original pressing!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote David_D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2024 at 07:10
"Why not both?"

Personally, I may prefer Abbey Road, as a more rocky one, but I didn't keep it in my collection when I decided to make it a very selective (small) one, and only found Sgt. Pepper's to be worthy enough.
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Sgt. Pepper, and I don't see Abbey Road as really something special (for the year 1969).
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Basing on how often I listen to them, Abbey Road wins with no contest
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TheGazzardian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2024 at 16:04
My two favourite Beatles albums, but I listen to Abbey Road more.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Valdez Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2024 at 14:48
These two albums are both classic masterpieces. If I had to choose it would be Sgt. Pepper. A lot of joy from that LP when I was young.
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

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MMT isn't even a proper Beatles album, it's a compilation of the MMT EP and some singles. MMT (the original EP) is a soundtrack to the film (or the Beatle songs from the film, not even all the music), not really a concept.

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One of the things that pissed me off was the "silent" band in the club ... The Bonzo Dog Band ... and they didn't have to be silent, but I bet they would have upstaged the Beatles within one minute. My guess is that it did happen, and they changed it to silent so the Beatles were the stars ... and no one knew who the Bonzo's were ... yes they did ... all of the Beatles had heard the Goons (quietly copied them in the Christmas Shows ... and then copied them again on the first 2 films doing visually what the Goons were doing with sound effects!!!!!), and they had connections to Monty Python ... and later several others ... to the point that they even allowed one of them to create the album that satirized the Beatles (The Rutles) ... 

I'm not sure it mattered a lot ... the Bonzo's went on to even quote the play Marat/Sade, a portion of which was in a bootleg, and it showed the band had guts and quality ... while the Beatles went on to do more pop/crap songs, though many of us will argue that the stuff got better ....but later ... too much of it was just trivial stuff until the White Album ... when the "meaning" took a very serious turn! Let It Be, gave us the first hint of this, and AR put the finishing on it with colorful paint.

I think MMT could have been a "concept" album, however, the Beatles were the stars and there was no way that it was not going to be an image of what MTV ended up doing ... kissing the stars and ignore all the rest. With a better director and writers, it would have been way more interesting ... but no one cared about anything but making sure the stars were lit up! ... with a heavy "period" on that. The same goes for Sgt Pepper's ... which did not get much of a film/video treatment, but a year later or two, things changed and the visuals on TV were the big thing, and this WAS what made Monty Python ... by the mid 60's the radio comedy stuff suffered as TV tried to bring everyone over. But they were never able to improve, or do better with the sound effects!


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Abbey Road, their best album.
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I like both
Voted for Abbey Road
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It's a draw. Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Floydoid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 17 2024 at 16:17
Sgt Pepper was undoubtedly their masterpiece, but Abbey Road the most polished album (and for me the most satisfying listen).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 17 2024 at 13:59
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by NYSPORTSFAN NYSPORTSFAN wrote:

Sgt. Peppers structurally is built like a concept album based on the introduction and the  segue of  the reprisal of the title track with a grand finale at the end of album. However, it really doesn't have a story line other than its a fictional band or an alter ego creating an album.  
 
I'm so glad to see that someone else has realised that Sgt Pepper is not a concept album.


Opinions vary on that. Apparently the concept is the Beatles playing music as this other band (their alter egos and the cover sort of reflects that). I don't think it's a very strong concept but I can see how it might qualify. 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 17 2024 at 13:54
For me it's Sgt. Peppers by just a tiny, tiny bit. The golden slumbers medley is probably the best thing they have ever done (imo) but I find Sgt. Peppers more fun to listen to plus I really don't care for "oh Darling" and "Maxwell's silver hammer" is almost as annoying. 
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Ranking The Beatles' Albums

02. 4 stars 1968: The Beatles - The Beatles (The White Album) - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLycVTiaj8OI80AsTGjYJAPi7-i8kTH-Bq
04. 4 stars 1967: The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3PhWT10BW3VDM5IcVodrdUpVIhU8f7Z-
06. 4 stars 1967: The Beatles - Magical Mystery Tour - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLycVTiaj8OI8F5vZlwv4NnvGwc84ITnW2
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