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Ivan_Melgar_M ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
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Abbey Road by far.
Specially side B, Almost one epic. |
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15139 |
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Seems I have never responded to this... I take Revolver and Rubber Soul over both of these. I never was much of a fan of Abbey Road but have recently warmed some more to it, but I still have Sgt. Pepper as their no. 3 album after the two mentioned above.
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Floydoid ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 02 2007 Location: Planet Prog Status: Offline Points: 1887 |
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Both albums are masterpieces, and even tho I just prefer Abbey Road it is marred by the slight mis-editing on the medley collage of side two.
For an album that was made as the band were disintegrating it is remarkably coherent, and an improvement on the prior endless recordings that eventually became edited down for 'Let It Be' - presumably being back at the EMI studio with their mentor George Martin (with his calming effect) made some considerable difference. Edited by Floydoid - November 29 2024 at 12:55 |
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Is it any wonder that the monkey's confused?
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Starshiper ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 08 2024 Location: Englantic Status: Offline Points: 2294 |
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Both are masterpieces in their own way.
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Moonshake ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 16 2022 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 902 |
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Sgt. Pepper
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18044 |
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Hi, I have to admit that at the time I loved the Beatles ... like everyone else ... but by the time I heard The Nice, then ELP and some of the "new music", I lost the desire to bother with the Beatles. That said, listening to SGT Peppers these days, seems ... rather boring and I find it better suited for the radio "songs" at the time, than any serious music. By the time Penny Lane and Strawberry Fields Forever came out, I though they had "progressed" to more serious music and ideas, other than just eccentric daily commentary. Listening to Abbey Road, these days, is very different. And it is hard to not state that it is, by far, one of the best "progressive music/rock" albums of all time, SPECIALLY when it came out ... there was nothing like it around, and it blew many folks and stations off their rocks. However, with today's fans, the album is just sent off to the closet to an area that does not think it belongs, and has very little of what "progressive" is .. .mainly a bunch of senseless solos, and a format! At 73, now, I can listen to the albums, but they are not the exciting material that really helped you wake up and learn about the arts and how they were developing, since rock music was not the only thing going nuts at the time. Within that context, both albums are massive for the history of it all ... something that today's fans do not care about much ... because it makes their favorites not look or sound, very good at all ... and in fact, show most of them as empty and a sad excuse for great music. Reminds me of classical music ... Mozart, Beethoven, Stravinsky, PUccini, Verdi ... they STILL take me away ... and those albums did at the time, and they still do some, though not much ... probably from hearing it so much. One last note. Sgt Peppers. The album DID NOT get better for until until I heard the English pressing. The American pressing was a copy taken from a dumpster somewhere and it did not have the ambience that the original pressing had, which Capitol (or whomever) tried to make sure that it was "heard" on the newer "remastered" versions of the album, which were not remastered at all, but direct copies of the English pressing. The last album this happened to? Dark Side of the Moon, where the American version also tried hard to cut down the ambience which the live show made sure you heard ... which made it all better. Later a "remastered" version came out, and again, it was nothing but a copy of the original pressing!
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15550 |
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"Why not both?"
Personally, I may prefer Abbey Road, as a more rocky one, but I didn't keep it in my collection when I decided to make it a very selective (small) one, and only found Sgt. Pepper's to be worthy enough.
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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Sgt. Pepper, and I don't see Abbey Road as really something special (for the year 1969).
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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Basing on how often I listen to them, Abbey Road wins with no contest
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TheGazzardian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 11 2009 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 8794 |
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My two favourite Beatles albums, but I listen to Abbey Road more.
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These two albums are both classic masterpieces. If I had to choose it would be Sgt. Pepper. A lot of joy from that LP when I was young.
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18044 |
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HI, One of the things that pissed me off was the "silent" band in the club ... The Bonzo Dog Band ... and they didn't have to be silent, but I bet they would have upstaged the Beatles within one minute. My guess is that it did happen, and they changed it to silent so the Beatles were the stars ... and no one knew who the Bonzo's were ... yes they did ... all of the Beatles had heard the Goons (quietly copied them in the Christmas Shows ... and then copied them again on the first 2 films doing visually what the Goons were doing with sound effects!!!!!), and they had connections to Monty Python ... and later several others ... to the point that they even allowed one of them to create the album that satirized the Beatles (The Rutles) ... I'm not sure it mattered a lot ... the Bonzo's went on to even quote the play Marat/Sade, a portion of which was in a bootleg, and it showed the band had guts and quality ... while the Beatles went on to do more pop/crap songs, though many of us will argue that the stuff got better ....but later ... too much of it was just trivial stuff until the White Album ... when the "meaning" took a very serious turn! Let It Be, gave us the first hint of this, and AR put the finishing on it with colorful paint. I think MMT could have been a "concept" album, however, the Beatles were the stars and there was no way that it was not going to be an image of what MTV ended up doing ... kissing the stars and ignore all the rest. With a better director and writers, it would have been way more interesting ... but no one cared about anything but making sure the stars were lit up! ... with a heavy "period" on that. The same goes for Sgt Pepper's ... which did not get much of a film/video treatment, but a year later or two, things changed and the visuals on TV were the big thing, and this WAS what made Monty Python ... by the mid 60's the radio comedy stuff suffered as TV tried to bring everyone over. But they were never able to improve, or do better with the sound effects!
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NasuTek ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: June 13 2024 Location: EU Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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Abbey Road, their best album.
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mellotronwave ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 30 2021 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 11492 |
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I like both
Voted for Abbey Road |
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Octopus II ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 21 2023 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 12268 |
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It's a draw.
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Floydoid ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 02 2007 Location: Planet Prog Status: Offline Points: 1887 |
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Sgt Pepper was undoubtedly their masterpiece, but Abbey Road the most polished album (and for me the most satisfying listen).
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Is it any wonder that the monkey's confused?
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 18874 |
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Opinions vary on that. Apparently the concept is the Beatles playing music as this other band (their alter egos and the cover sort of reflects that). I don't think it's a very strong concept but I can see how it might qualify.
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 18874 |
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For me it's Sgt. Peppers by just a tiny, tiny bit. The golden slumbers medley is probably the best thing they have ever done (imo) but I find Sgt. Peppers more fun to listen to plus I really don't care for "oh Darling" and "Maxwell's silver hammer" is almost as annoying.
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