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siLLy puPPy
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^ i just look at it as a totally different beast with no need to compare to past efforts. As a stand alone it works for me. I realize not everyone feels the same :) |
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Moyan
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Isn't it bitter that "Comfortably Numb," composed by David Gilmour, is the far-best song on "The Wall"? It's the fact that Gilmour hasn’t written many songs at all for Pink Floyd since 1972. The album is indeed boring and uninteresting, mostly due to Waters' overpowering presence, and "The Wall" could have been far better as a single LP. Probably then "The Wall" could have been in the rank of "Too Old to Rock 'n' Roll: Too Young to Die!"—the nice concept album by Jethro Tull that was released three years before "The Wall."
The fact that Roger Waters has something "big" to say is another aspect of the issue. Because of this, he occasionally pushes the music to the back burner in favour of using it to air his complaints and express his rather pathetic beliefs. "The Wall," Waters' "child," amounted to nothing more than a two-faced justification for exaggerated self-pity. There are a few infrequent, lighter moments, like the unexpected smash single "Another Brick in the Wall Part 2." Except for that disco-music-based song and David Gilmour's "Comfortably Numb," there isn't any real excitement on the record that was once supposed to be a great rock opera by Pink Floyd. It has way too many words, a single tempo, and very few instrumental sections. The narrative tends to veer off course and is too cryptic to make any kind of sense. Not to mention that "The Wall" is deemed to be quite badly constructed when compared to the band's best moments. It's clear that the live CD "Is There Anybody Out There?" is the better choice because it effectively conveys the spirit of Pink Floyd more than the studio version.
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Logan
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I don't care how others rate Pink Floyd's The Wall, I love it, think it's a masterpiece in its own right, and it has meant more to me than any The Who album (and I used to love The Who). The gatefold sleeve is something that appealed to me when I was a child (found it quite naughty like a Mad magazine) -- I don't usually care much about cover art, but I liked to draw that cover in high school (I am not a great artist but I could do that well with a ruler and pencil). I like its uniqueness in Pink Floyd's discography, is the last Pink Floyd album I care about, and I think Pink Floyd has many excellent albums. It isn't an album I play much now, but that's because I know it so very well. When I got into certain moods in my younger adulthood, this was perfect:
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progaardvark
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I agree with this. I like that live album better than the studio version of The Wall. The one thing that live album did for me that I had not really noticed in the past was that Rick Wright's contributions to the Pink Floyd sound are more significant than I had initially realized. I don't think Rick gets the credit he deserves, not necessarily for the songwriting, but his contribution to the their overall sound. I also tend to agree with some of your other comments. Rock operas are wordy beasts and sometimes they need to breathe with extended instrumental sections. That's something I wish they had done with The Wall. Sure, they could've scaled it back to one LP, but that doesn't make it any less dense. It just needed less words and more instrumental sections that duplicated the emotions they wanted to present. My major criticism with Waters is I feel he could get his points off better by being more concise. He had a pretty good track record of that up until The Wall. Having said that, I too have similar faults and regret some of the pieces of music I've made in my past. It's a fine line determining on how much is too much. But hey, this might just be me. I have similar issues with The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway. And lots of people love that album too.
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Logan
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^ I have loved The Wall and The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway has been by far the most important album released by Genesis to me -- Trespass is my second favourite. It was searching for (to discover its identity) the short instrumental "Hairless Heart" which I heard playing in a playhouse bar in the 90s that led to me really exploring Prog on the internet.
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Steve Wyzard
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After all these years, someone finally puts into words just why The Wall has never completely resonated with this listener, despite enjoying most of the band's other albums. Thank you for saying it best! I should mention my "far-best song" on the album has always been the really exciting "Run Like Hell".
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MikeEnRegalia
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He simply dislikes RW.
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stegor
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North America Europe I've always loved this ELO album, one of their best, but what a dorky cover! When I first got it I thought it was an ok band pic, but then my friend looked at it and said "What's with the belly-buttons?" I totally missed that! I've never seen the European cover in person, but it seems to be better than the North American version. Still, one of the least impressive Hipgnosis covers and that photo of Jeff is so blurry! |
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progaardvark
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^I can understand that. The bellybuttons cover always makes me laugh.
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Gnik Nosmirc
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Didn't know this one but I laughed my a** off. Especially given the fact that Steve Howe is a great guitarist. |
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