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^8 here. Smile
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

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Whenever a new Floyd album was announced it was always part of the excitement to speculate what the cover art would be (besides the musical content of course) - I was always pleasantly astonished... well until the release of The Wall and its very stark cover art.

It fits with the concept. Also the inside drawings are great. 
Why would "The Wall" sleeve design be considered exceptional rather than mediocre? There is nothing so special that I, for one, can see on that cover. Fits the concept [which, to be honest, I find more pathetic than mind-bending] and the title? Alright, but then, isn't that too predictable? or it's great only due to its gatefold illustrations? Well, I've seen much better cartoon-like illustrations on albums that received incomparably less attention.
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Surprisingly good release from 2023. This was my blurb on first listen: "The ugly cover aside, this is a very nice and eclectic prog rock release, reasonably innovative and at the same time laid-back and comfy. Borderline Zappa at times!"
In my humble opinion, that's a rather good design (featuring nicely designed letters) in the vein of the 'ugly is beautiful' aesthetic, to which the amazing ItCotCK cover painting belongs as well.
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Originally posted by Moyan Moyan wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

Whenever a new Floyd album was announced it was always part of the excitement to speculate what the cover art would be (besides the musical content of course) - I was always pleasantly astonished... well until the release of The Wall and its very stark cover art.

It fits with the concept. Also the inside drawings are great. 
Why would "The Wall" sleeve design be considered exceptional rather than mediocre? There is nothing so special that I, for one, can see on that cover. Fits the concept [which, to be honest, I find more pathetic than mind-bending] and the title? Alright, but then, isn't that too predictable? or it's great only due to its gatefold illustrations? Well, I've seen much better cartoon-like illustrations on albums that received incomparably less attention.

I never said the sleeve design is exceptional. 
If you think the albums cover, sleeve and inside are pathetic, fine, that's your opinion, you are entitled to that. 

I like the whole thing, I don't find it mediocre, that's all I said.  
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Originally posted by Moyan Moyan wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:


Surprisingly good release from 2023. This was my blurb on first listen: "The ugly cover aside, this is a very nice and eclectic prog rock release, reasonably innovative and at the same time laid-back and comfy. Borderline Zappa at times!"
In my humble opinion, that's a rather good design (featuring nicely designed letters) in the vein of the 'ugly is beautiful' aesthetic, to which the amazing ItCotCK cover painting belongs as well.

Of course there's no arguing taste - but the cover is freaking me out a little bit, which is fine in general, but in this case I don't think it matches the music, which is nowhere near as extreme.
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I like the whole thing [The Wall], I don't find it mediocre, that's all I said.  

It's always funny when someone comes along and trashes a legitimate masterpiece. It's fine to say "it's not for me", but to call it "mediocre" is simply revealing a lack of experience and/or objectivity, with a little bit of hubris on top.

As Wikipedia puts it: "The Wall is one of the best-known concept albums. With over 30 million copies sold, it is the second best-selling album in the band's catalogue (behind 1973's The Dark Side of the Moon), the best selling double-album of all time, and one of the best-selling albums of all time overall."
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I like the whole thing [The Wall], I don't find it mediocre, that's all I said.  

It's always funny when someone comes along and trashes a legitimate masterpiece. It's fine to say "it's not for me", but to call it "mediocre" is simply revealing a lack of experience and/or objectivity, with a little bit of hubris on top.

As Wikipedia puts it: "The Wall is one of the best-known concept albums. With over 30 million copies sold, it is the second best-selling album in the band's catalogue (behind 1973's The Dark Side of the Moon), the best selling double-album of all time, and one of the best-selling albums of all time overall."

I was only talking about the art-work. Smile


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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I never said the sleeve design is exceptional.
You said it wasn't mediocre. Someone would assume that you think that "The Wall" sleeve design is something more than mediocre; let's say "exceptional."


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Originally posted by Moyan Moyan wrote:

"The Wall" sleeve design would go well with a thread headed "A mediocre cover art of a mediocre yet terribly overrated album."

I don't think the cover art is bad or mediocre, 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I like the whole thing [The Wall], I don't find it mediocre, that's all I said.  

It's always funny when someone comes along and trashes a legitimate masterpiece. It's fine to say "it's not for me", but to call it "mediocre" is simply revealing a lack of experience and/or objectivity, with a little bit of hubris on top.

As Wikipedia puts it: "The Wall is one of the best-known concept albums. With over 30 million copies sold, it is the second best-selling album in the band's catalogue (behind 1973's The Dark Side of the Moon), the best selling double-album of all time, and one of the best-selling albums of all time overall."

I was only talking about the art-work. Smile




I was referring to Moyan, who implied that The Wall was a mediocre record.
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Originally posted by Moyan Moyan wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I never said the sleeve design is exceptional.
You said it wasn't mediocre. Someone would assume that you think that "The Wall" sleeve design is something more than mediocre; let's say "exceptional."

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Originally posted by Moyan Moyan wrote:

"The Wall" sleeve design would go well with a thread headed "A mediocre cover art of a mediocre yet terribly overrated album."

I don't think the cover art is bad or mediocre, 

There's a long way between "not mediocre" and "exceptional". LOL 



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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I like the whole thing [The Wall], I don't find it mediocre, that's all I said.  

It's always funny when someone comes along and trashes a legitimate masterpiece. It's fine to say "it's not for me", but to call it "mediocre" is simply revealing a lack of experience and/or objectivity, with a little bit of hubris on top.

As Wikipedia puts it: "The Wall is one of the best-known concept albums. With over 30 million copies sold, it is the second best-selling album in the band's catalogue (behind 1973's The Dark Side of the Moon), the best selling double-album of all time, and one of the best-selling albums of all time overall."

I was only talking about the art-work. Smile

I was referring to Moyan, who implied that The Wall was a mediocre record.

You quoted me though, that was confusing. LOL
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I was only talking about the art-work. Smile
Actually, you agreed with me that the album is overrated:

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"The Wall" sleeve design would go well with a thread headed "A mediocre cover art of a mediocre yet terribly overrated album."
I agree it's an overrated album. I rarely get back to it these days. 


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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Moyan Moyan wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I never said the sleeve design is exceptional.
You said it wasn't mediocre. Someone would assume that you think that "The Wall" sleeve design is something more than mediocre; let's say "exceptional."

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Originally posted by Moyan Moyan wrote:

"The Wall" sleeve design would go well with a thread headed "A mediocre cover art of a mediocre yet terribly overrated album."

I don't think the cover art is bad or mediocre, 

There's a long way between "not mediocre" and "exceptional". LOL 

Okay, but then what level above mediocre is that, according to you? LOL
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Originally posted by Moyan Moyan wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I was only talking about the art-work. Smile
Actually, you agreed with me that the album is overrated:

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Originally posted by Moyan Moyan wrote:

"The Wall" sleeve design would go well with a thread headed "A mediocre cover art of a mediocre yet terribly overrated album."
I agree it's an overrated album. I rarely get back to it these days. 


Yes, I agreed the album was overrated, but disagreed the art-work is mediocre and bad. 

OK, let's stop here, I don't see the point of arguing. You dislike the art-work, I like it. So be it. I'm fine with that. 
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Originally posted by Moyan Moyan wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Moyan Moyan wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I never said the sleeve design is exceptional.
You said it wasn't mediocre. Someone would assume that you think that "The Wall" sleeve design is something more than mediocre; let's say "exceptional."

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Originally posted by Moyan Moyan wrote:

"The Wall" sleeve design would go well with a thread headed "A mediocre cover art of a mediocre yet terribly overrated album."

I don't think the cover art is bad or mediocre, 

There's a long way between "not mediocre" and "exceptional". LOL 

Okay, but then what level above mediocre is that, according to you? LOL

You surely like to argue. Ouch
How about "good"? Is it ok that i think it's "good". May I have that?! 
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:


It's always funny when someone comes along and trashes a legitimate masterpiece. It's fine to say "it's not for me", but to call it "mediocre" is simply revealing a lack of experience and/or objectivity, with a little bit of hubris on top.

As Wikipedia puts it: "The Wall is one of the best-known concept albums. With over 30 million copies sold, it is the second best-selling album in the band's catalogue (behind 1973's The Dark Side of the Moon), the best selling double-album of all time, and one of the best-selling albums of all time overall."
Aside from the disco-music-based song that was (is) the biggest hit from the album, "The Wall" has too many theatrical moments for Pink Floyd, IMO.
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ The Wall is a masterpiece, I'm rarely getting back to it these days solely because there is so much music to listen to. Which is not a bad problem to have Smile


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Cover art for The Future Bites by Steven Wilson

I'm listening to this now. The music is good but the cover leaves a lot to be desired.
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Originally posted by Moyan Moyan wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:


It's always funny when someone comes along and trashes a legitimate masterpiece. It's fine to say "it's not for me", but to call it "mediocre" is simply revealing a lack of experience and/or objectivity, with a little bit of hubris on top.

As Wikipedia puts it: "The Wall is one of the best-known concept albums. With over 30 million copies sold, it is the second best-selling album in the band's catalogue (behind 1973's The Dark Side of the Moon), the best selling double-album of all time, and one of the best-selling albums of all time overall."
Aside from the disco-music-based song that was (is) the biggest hit from the album, "The Wall" has too many theatrical moments for Pink Floyd, IMO.


It's a rock opera. It's supposed to be theatrical. I just listened to it for the first time in years. It maintains my  5 star rating.


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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by Moyan Moyan wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:


It's always funny when someone comes along and trashes a legitimate masterpiece. It's fine to say "it's not for me", but to call it "mediocre" is simply revealing a lack of experience and/or objectivity, with a little bit of hubris on top.

As Wikipedia puts it: "The Wall is one of the best-known concept albums. With over 30 million copies sold, it is the second best-selling album in the band's catalogue (behind 1973's The Dark Side of the Moon), the best selling double-album of all time, and one of the best-selling albums of all time overall."
Aside from the disco-music-based song that was (is) the biggest hit from the album, "The Wall" has too many theatrical moments for Pink Floyd, IMO.


It's a rock opera. It's supposed to be theatrical. I just listened to it for the first time in years. It maintains my  5 star rating.




I'm not sure myself. Waters was deadly serious at the time when interviewed and discussing it and didn't present it this way. I was a massive fan of it at the time and still regard it as important to me personally in helping me through a time that was not easy. However it hasn't aged well to my ears and now seems a country mile behind Dark Side Of The Moon or Animals
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