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    Posted: April 04 2024 at 11:52

It was a very brave set list they played in 1994, almost the entire Talk album was performed, and only four songs from the 70's.

Does anyone know if the sound quality of this live recording is good?
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Originally posted by SouthSideoftheSky SouthSideoftheSky wrote:

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I'll be getting the 4CD box, looks pretty nice!

Wait a moment! My usual dealers charge around 80 euros for this! Shocked

At that price I'm less interested, I'll probably wait.

The Emerson, Lake & Powell re-issue was already around 40 euros for a 3CD set, rather steep.

You need to sack your dealers then as the ELPowell set is nowhere near that on Amazon (about 27 Euros) while the Yes box set is currently about 62 Euros.

Thank you, I will check Amazon and compare next time I buy a CD, though 62 euros is still pretty expensive.
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My comment was about the artwork not about the music.
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^ i actually love Tormato! So throw the tormatos my way. I can take it : D


That's fine. I even own the album, but it's so uneven. The highs are high (first and last song) and the lows are very low (i.e. Circus of Heaven). 
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^ i actually love Tormato! So throw the tormatos my way. I can take it : D


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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Better than GFTO Wink

Or Tormato!!

Definitely better than Tormato. Big smileLOL
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

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LOL. I think one album of Talk is more than enough. No thank you.
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4CD expansion is talking too much, isn't it?! Big smile

LOL

Maybe the box set should be called "Too Loquacious For Our Own Good but hey gotta cash in somehow!"


I bought a Talk CD at some point, I still have it, it's a pretty good album. Their best in the 90s at least. 

Yeah, it's OK. I don't get the craze about multi-disc reissues. Very rarely do i want all those extras. Maybe an album like Relayer might tempt me but Talk? Nope.



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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Better than GFTO Wink

Or Tormato!!
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I'll keep my money , the original Cd is enough for me.
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Originally posted by SouthSideoftheSky SouthSideoftheSky wrote:

Originally posted by SouthSideoftheSky SouthSideoftheSky wrote:


I'll be getting the 4CD box, looks pretty nice!

Wait a moment! My usual dealers charge around 80 euros for this! Shocked

At that price I'm less interested, I'll probably wait.

The Emerson, Lake & Powell re-issue was already around 40 euros for a 3CD set, rather steep.

You need to sack your dealers then as the ELPowell set is nowhere near that on Amazon (about 27 Euros) while the Yes box set is currently about 62 Euros.
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Originally posted by SouthSideoftheSky SouthSideoftheSky wrote:


I'll be getting the 4CD box, looks pretty nice!

Wait a moment! My usual dealers charge around 80 euros for this! Shocked

At that price I'm less interested, I'll probably wait.

The Emerson, Lake & Powell re-issue was already around 40 euros for a 3CD set, rather steep.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Very interesting. I always liked this album and agree with some of the comments in the marketing blurb that it was then best of the Rabin era. This had a much better flow to it and doesn't feel 'edited' down like their 80's releases. There was a return to a happy unchained Yes that captured the true spirit of the band IMO.

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However, disaster loomed as Victory Music, the original label, went bankrupt shortly after the album’s release, and the album was left to wither and die.

This is classic rewriting history to make it seem that events happened outside of their control. In fact the record label was still intact enough for ELP to release In the Hot Seat on the 27 September 1994. That's a whole 6 months later! ITHS is one of the worst releases of the decade by any prog band and certainly lead to the demise of Victory records. However the idea that Talk was 'left to wither and die' is simply not correct. The truth is that the record company didn't have the resources to promote the album and that it was left to the band to push it. If the album didn't do better it's more likely that the darker heavier Grunge scene was the leading fashionable music trend of the time and Yes were just out of touch. That is the beauty of the album though as it's so different. It will be nice for a new generation of fans to hopefully discover and enjoy it. 
I may get the vinyl edition, If I had more money I would get the deluxe box set of vinyl and CD's which is very nicely priced.

I do like the album but I remember buying it when I came across it in a record shop in London and I didn't even know it existed! As I was a big fan of Yes this was quite surprising and seemed to suggest a lack of advertising. This was before the big days of the Internet btw.

Yes this is not a untypical story. I remember not knowing IQ had reformed until I noticed Subterranea in an HMV a good 5 years after the event. Joyously I then discovered they had an even better album out called Ever.
For a long time I was very reliant on Tommy Vance's show to point me in the right direction but after that I've no idea what sources of information I was using. ELP had a fanzine going for a while so that may have helped. Somehow I was aware of any news on ELP like for instance the 25th Anniversary event that took place in Birmingham in 1995. I must have been getting this from somewhere. As far as Talk goes I must have either heard something on the radio or just noticed the CD in a local HMV. I remember I bought Union before that and liked it so would have been primed for another release.
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Edit: Interesting that it's being put out on Cherry Red and not Esoteric Recordings?

It's put out by Spirit of Unicorn, the same label that is putting out the expanded re-issue of the Emerson, Lake & Powell album.
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:


I do like the album but I remember buying it when I came across it in a record shop in London and I didn't even know it existed! As I was a big fan of Yes this was quite surprising and seemed to suggest a lack of advertising. This was before the big days of the Internet btw.

A very similar thing happened to me tbh; I came across it quite by chance in a 2nd hand record shop, perhaps 6 months after its release... I had had no knowledge of its existence at all (this was even before the days of Classic Rock Mag when utd info could play hard to get) and there was the CD sitting in the rack for a fiver... I can only presume that someone had bought it new and quickly got shot of it in disgust?

Edit: Interesting that it's being put out on Cherry Red and not Esoteric Recordings?


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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Very interesting. I always liked this album and agree with some of the comments in the marketing blurb that it was then best of the Rabin era. This had a much better flow to it and doesn't feel 'edited' down like their 80's releases. There was a return to a happy unchained Yes that captured the true spirit of the band IMO.

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However, disaster loomed as Victory Music, the original label, went bankrupt shortly after the album’s release, and the album was left to wither and die.

This is classic rewriting history to make it seem that events happened outside of their control. In fact the record label was still intact enough for ELP to release In the Hot Seat on the 27 September 1994. That's a whole 6 months later! ITHS is one of the worst releases of the decade by any prog band and certainly lead to the demise of Victory records. However the idea that Talk was 'left to wither and die' is simply not correct. The truth is that the record company didn't have the resources to promote the album and that it was left to the band to push it. If the album didn't do better it's more likely that the darker heavier Grunge scene was the leading fashionable music trend of the time and Yes were just out of touch. That is the beauty of the album though as it's so different. It will be nice for a new generation of fans to hopefully discover and enjoy it. 
I may get the vinyl edition, If I had more money I would get the deluxe box set of vinyl and CD's which is very nicely priced.

I do like the album but I remember buying it when I came across it in a record shop in London and I didn't even know it existed! As I was a big fan of Yes this was quite surprising and seemed to suggest a lack of advertising. This was before the big days of the Internet btw.
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I'll be getting the 4CD box, looks pretty nice!
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I bought a Talk CD at some point, I still have it, it's a pretty good album. Their best in the 90s at least. 

IMO, it's their best with Rabin and only behind the Keystudio material in terms of their best of the 90's, but I still wouldn't want 4 CDs worth of it...

I don't want the 4 CDs either, not what I meant, I got the original album already. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I bought a Talk CD at some point, I still have it, it's a pretty good album. Their best in the 90s at least. 

IMO, it's their best with Rabin and only behind the Keystudio material in terms of their best of the 90's, but I still wouldn't want 4 CDs worth of it...
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

LOL. I think one album of Talk is more than enough. No thank you.
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Maybe the box set should be called "Too Loquacious For Our Own Good but hey gotta cash in somehow!"


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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

LOL. I think one album of Talk is more than enough. No thank you.

LOL
4CD expansion is talking too much, isn't it?! Big smile


LOL

Maybe the box set should be called "Too Loquacious For Our Own Good but hey gotta cash in somehow!"


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