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progaardvark
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My least favorite is Vapor Trails. I found the Test for Echo to Clockwork Angels era a difficult listen. Sort of like driving through a car wash with the windows down.
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Vapor Trails is, for me, the best overall post-1980s Rush album. The initial mix turned people off because it was released at the height of the loudness wars. If more fans actually listened to it (hell, they even released a remixed version), they'd know how good it is. Neil composed his best lyrics in years. There isn't a bad song on VT.
For me, their least consistent offerings are Roll the Bones and Snakes and Arrows. They both have their share of duds. Of course, the latter has those fantastic instrumentals. |
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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For me it's definitely Vapor Trails (and yes I have the remixed version). I'm still waiting for it to grow on me (I have a feeling I'll be waiting a really long time though). I don't think Snakes and Arrows is all that great either and I know many people don't like Presto, Hold your fire and Roll the Bones (three that I actually like) but for me it's VT followed by S&A. TFE I didn't initially like that much but it sort of grew on me. I like the cover too (very wintery).
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Deadwing
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Hold Your Fire definitely, and I love Rush's 80's output.
Power Windows and Vapour Trails are amazing albums for diferent reasons lol Hold Your Fire is a very homogenous album, quite different from what came before and after, also the drums sound horrible, with is an heresy for Rush. I think the only song that stands out from it is the single Time stands still. Power Windows is peak 80's synths with fantastic comlositions and great guitar work. Vapour Trails is full of that raw angsty energy, the songs have a lot of layers of guitars/basses. It's an album with a very unique sound. |
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richardh
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Their most directionless and pointless album has to be Presto for me. The very definition of 'vanilla', at this point the band had put in some serious leg work releasing 7 albums in the 80's and probably touring off the back of all of them. They needed a rest.
Going into the 90's I had largely forgotten about them until I heard the song Roll The Bones on the radio. That sounded fresh and interesting and brought me back to the band. Admittedly at the time (1991) there was a desperate lack of anything that was remotely interesting so this seemed as good as anything!
Hold Your Fire has at least one redeeming quality - the track Force Ten. I love that track and would easily for me be on any Rush 'best of'. Time Stand Still is also decent. In terms of PA there are only two Rush albums that have an average rating less than 3, the debut and Test For Echo. The latter gets quite a battering from many! |
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Mellotron Storm
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I agree, I just got the remixed Vapor Trails and love it. Easily my favourite Rush album post Signals. Man, Roll The Bones and Presto has to be at the bottom. |
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Steve Wyzard
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First off, let's not blame producer Peter Henderson. He was the band's third choice after being stood up by two other producers, and he was just not the right man for the job. I do not have any problem with the production/engineering side of the album, even if the band does. They really wanted a guitar-heavy album after people criticized Signals for having too many keyboards, so they are responsible for the album's overall sound even before recording began. The real problems with Grace Under Pressure are 1) the lyrics, 2) the keyboards that do appear on this album, and 3) the overall "doom and gloom" atmosphere. By studio album #10, Rush had become successful beyond their wildest dreams and I think with this album it started going to their heads. It's my understanding that the bandmembers were dealing with personal issues at the time this album was made, and they were also affected by the general "edge of nuclear war" malaise that was constantly in the news. Neil's lyrics had become far more personal (notice all the personal pronouns) and preachy, and a lot less universal in subject and scope. The keyboards issue can be explained with "keeping up with the times", but today they sound embarrassingly dated. So again, I do not hate this album, but I just find it wanting compared with their other albums of the 1980s. I would rank the 1980s Rush albums (best to worst) as follows: 1) Signals 2) Power Windows 3) Permanent Waves 4) Moving Pictures 5) Hold Your Fire 6) Grace Under Pressure 7) Presto (I still think of this as a 90s album even it was released at the end of 1989).
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Wow, I love Grace Under Pressure: the lyrics, the synths (especially the glorious strings of the PPG Waveterm), the melodies, its quasi-apocalyptic tone, everything. That's a record with balls. I'm shocked any Rush fan would dislike it, let alone rank it below HYF.
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richardh
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^ totally agree. I listened to it recently and couldn't spy a weak moment. For me Permanent Waves through to GUP is their best, most creative and interesting period. I think they started to flag a bit with Power Windows. Sheer fatigue of constant recording and touring in the end took it's toll, not 'going to their heads' or anything else like that. IMO.
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I'm sorry Steve, I struggle to relate to your criticisms... 1) Permanent Waves (My fave Rush album as a matter of interest) 5/5 2) Moving Pictures 5/5 3) Signals 5/5 4) Grace Under Pressure 4.5/5 5) Power Windows 4/5 6) Hold Your Fire 3.5/5 7) Presto 3.5/5 (3.25/5 would be fairer) 8) Roll The Bones 3/5 The 80's for Rush were a simple case of 'law of diminishing returns' thru the decade...
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agreed, Rich... I still own their albums up to HYF as there are tracks I still really like despite the off-putting wall of synthetic synths, redolent of the era..
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Deadwing
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My list would be:
1) Signals (5) 2) Power Windows (4.5) 3) Permanent Waves (4.5) 4) Moving Pictures (4.5) 5) Grace Under Pressure (4) 6) Presto (3) |
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GuP has always been near the bottom for me as well. I can't really explain why but it just doesn't click with me. I rarely listen to it anymore. Between The Wheels though is one of my favorite Rush songs.
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1) Moving Pictures 5/5 2) Permanent Waves 4.5/5 3) Signals 4.5/5 4) Hold Your Fire 4/5 5) Grace Under Pressure 3.5/5 6) Power Windows 3/5 7) Presto 2/5 8) Roll The Bones 1.5/5 After the disappointing Presto and the almost cringeworthy Roll the Bones I quit following Rush. The only post-1991 album I have heard in its entirety was Clockwork Angels, which was a return to form (4/5). |
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You should take a peek at Counterparts. I don't know if you'll like it but it has all of the balls that Roll The Bones didn't plus 300% more.
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We're definitely in agreement about Counterparts, at least! |
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On the 'Hold your fire' tour, the songs they played sounded fantastic and i love a lot of those songs but the album just sounds awful in my opinion- probably the worst sounding lp; thin and plastic. The next worst sounding to me was 'Roll the bones' but again those songs sounded great live. Test for Echo sounded better but i just didnt connect with the songs. And Vapour trails did nothing for me particularly but at least had an intensity of sound and intent.
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For certain songs, like "Freeze," I prefer the original. I know, it steamrolls right over you...and I love it! |
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Indeed, the live version of "Turn the Page" on ASOH is leagues better than the studio version. |
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