PA Album of the Year Discussion thread

These are my ten nominees. They are all in the Progarchives' database.

1. Dominic Sanderson "Impermanence"
2. Gong "Unending Ascending"
3. Ozric Tentacles "Lotus Unfolding"
4. Zopp "Dominion"
5. I Am The Manic Whale "Bumper Book of Mystery Stories"
6. Yes "Mirror to the Sky"
7. Uriah Heep "Chaos & Colour"
8. Napier's Bones "Cells"
9. Teeth of the Sea "Hive"
10. Big Big Train "Ingenious Devices"

^^ Oh, I was terribly mistaken to believe that we should carry out the entire procedure on this page. I apologise. Please don't think my nominees are legitimate, and that's it.

It's against my nature, but I will try to come up with a list. Listing 20 albums isn't the most difficult part (from the 30 or so 2023 prog albums I listened to, thus far), ranking them is the most criminal part in the operation... I still want to listen to a couple of albums that I'm curious about (knowing that there are plenty that I'm not curious about at all) and waiting for the release of an album that I'm impatient to listen to but that will only come out at the end of next week...

omphaloskepsis wrote: 1. Seven Impale - Summit {ap:55305} 2. Haken - Fauna {ap:53972} 3. Riverside - ID.Entity {ap:53198} 4. Lars Fredrik Frøislie - Fire Fortellinger {ap:55606} 5. Zopp - Dominion {ap:54131} 6. The Chronicles Of Father Robin - The Songs & Tales Of Airoea: Book 1 {ap:64307} 7. Jordsjø - Salighet {ap:65303} 8. The Chronicles Of Father Robin - The Songs & Tales Of Airoea: Book 2 {ap:65630} 9. Behold... the Arctopus - Interstellar Overtrove {ap:65835} 10. Baroness - Stone {ap:64605} 11. PoiL - Poil Ueda {ap:55644} 12. Deposed King - One Man's Grief {ap:54610} 13. Amoeba Split - Quiet Euphoria {ap:54888} 14. Homunculus Res - Ecco l'impero Dei Doppi Sensi {ap:64076} 15. Agusa - Prima Materia {ap:64672} 16. Blood Ceremony - The Old Ways Remain {ap:55491} 17. Il Cerchio d'Oro - Pangea E Le Tre Lune {ap:63477} 18. Andrea Orlando - La Scienza Delle Stagioni {ap:66620} 19. Ozric Tentacles - Lotus Unfolding {ap:65412} 20. Crown Lands - Fearless {ap:55192}

There are a few ideal suspects for the final PA 2023 top list in that list, IMHO.

I modified the results page a little bit to better visualize the participants. Still mostly (special) collabs ... you can change that with a couple of clicks

Edited by MikeEnRegalia - December 05 2023 at 15:55

Catcher10 wrote: Normally Tapfret would ask for the list in late December or in January……I’ll start working on my list for submission. Glad there will be more participation.

I've opened my list this evening

45 albums at first thought

MikeEnRegalia wrote: I modified the results page a little bit to better visualize the participants. Still mostly (special) collabs ... you can change that with a couple of clicks

Are these all lists (and points alloted) already final??

TBH, I don't like the idea of knowing the album results before I place & enter my own choices.



Edited by Sean Trane - December 05 2023 at 16:42

Then don't look!

Got to think it will be open until at least the end of January. I know I'll change mine a bunch.

I don't know how this was done the last time ... I agree with Ian, if you don't want to know the result before it is made final, you can choose to just not look.

But if it's about nobody else being able to look - I could implement that, if more people think it matters. One solution would be to just show all the individual user lists on the results page until no more votes are accepted.

The good thing about how it is currently implemented is that only real forum users can vote, and there can only be one list per user. If we really start to see attempts of manipulation (e.g. lots of brand new forum users casting votes) we could look at excluding these (e.g. joined before this month).



Edited by MikeEnRegalia - December 05 2023 at 23:23

MikeEnRegalia wrote: I don't know how this was done the last time ... I agree with Ian, if you don't want to know the result before it is made final, you can choose to just not look. But if it's about nobody else being able to look - I could implement that, if more people think it matters. One solution would be to just show all the individual user lists on the results page until no more votes are accepted. The good thing about how it is currently implemented is that only real forum users can vote, and there can only be one list per user. If we really start to see attempts of manipulation (e.g. lots of brand new forum users casting votes) we could look at excluding these (e.g. joined before this month).

Edited by Sean Trane - December 06 2023 at 01:53

Sean Trane wrote: MikeEnRegalia wrote: I don't know how this was done the last time ... I agree with Ian, if you don't want to know the result before it is made final, you can choose to just not look. But if it's about nobody else being able to look - I could implement that, if more people think it matters. One solution would be to just show all the individual user lists on the results page until no more votes are accepted. The good thing about how it is currently implemented is that only real forum users can vote, and there can only be one list per user. If we really start to see attempts of manipulation (e.g. lots of brand new forum users casting votes) we could look at excluding these (e.g. joined before this month). We're not talking of stuffing ballots boxes here  (and we're excluding Svettie before he starts voting all serbian artistes.)   Well, in previous years, we were able to see other collab's temporary or in-progress lists allright, but we never saw them compiled until the votes were closed, which meant that you actually had to start counting and adding if you wanted to skew the polls. Even final lists, we could see them for the early posters. And we had no problems with that (seeing the collabss lists), because they actually told us on what we may have missed out on. We had concertation & discussions between us, like almost every site that sets up yearly top lists. In some cases, we even hurried to include an artist in the DB (yup, that DB inclusion rule again) so we could vote for it.  With your system here you can see that Zopp's second album (which is IMHO lesser than the debut) has such a high advance in terms of points that one might not give them points since they don't need it. Sooooo, it's not the access to different lists that I'm objecting to, but opening the link  you gave us and seeing the results already compiled (if only partially) that's an issue (with me, anyways). Don't get me wrong, I appreciate your efforts to get this done, if only because we're not sure we could get it done this year, given the sorry state of the site. BTW, I'm posting again via Edge, cos too many things are not available via Firefox.  .